Food Safety Talk

Temporary Thing “aging like the finest wines and cheeses” Canada mourns Tragically Hip singer Gord Downie - BBC News The Tragically Hip in Bobcaygeon - a film by Andy Keen 2017 N.C. State Fair - Nothing Could Be Finer! Social proof - Wikipedia Tatiana Lorca The Best Meal-Delivery Service for 2017 Food Safety Talk 130: This Outbreak is Brought to You by the Letter T — Food Safety Talk Temple Grandin (TV Movie 2010) - IMDb SC man accused of spraying possible feces on grocery store food | WSOC-TV Harris Teeter’s produce department remains closed following ‘disgruntled former contractor’s’ alleged sh*tstorm “Emergency!” Botulism (TV Episode 1972) - Plot Summary - IMDb Death Wish Coffee Nitro Recall - A Discussion with CEO Mike Brown Packs of radioactive wild boar are making farmers in Sweden nervous Chili cook off illnesses in VA | barfblog How blogger ‘Meathead’ Goldwyn turned AmazingRibs into top barbecue site Amazing Ribs website Meathead Goldwyn (@meathead) | Twitter Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter Podcasts for Microbiologists and Curious Non-Scientists – Microbiologics Blog Food safety during and after a disaster

Show notes so you can follow along at home: * [Sonny Perdue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Perdue) * [CRISPR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR) * [Dr. Richard Linton](https://norocore.ncsu.edu/about/our-team/dr-richard-linton/) * [USDA, Risk Assessment & Cost-Benefit Analysis](https://www.usda.gov/oce/risk_assessment/forums.htm) * [Agricultural Communications Major, Auburn University](http://bulletin.auburn.edu/undergraduate/collegeofagriculture/agcommunications_major/) * [FSIS Mass Media Campaign Plan](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/8f313f7f-57bc-465b-b78d-c8204db01e48/BFS_Theoretical_Framework.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Loitering](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/loitering) * [Fortunate Son, Do By Friday podcast](http://dobyfriday.com/45) * [How to Make Mind-Blowingly Delicious Burgers with Sous Vide - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIoo3TqKe-M) * [Food Safety Talk 85: I'm the jerky police (with Dan Benjamin)](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/12/18/food-safety-talk-85-im-the-jerky-police) * [Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann)](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/8/6/food-safety-talk-79-youre-into-botulism-country-with-merlin-mann) * [Death Wish Nitro: Safety Recall – Death Wish Coffee Company](https://www.deathwishcoffee.com/pages/important-safety-notice-recall-death-wish-nitro) * [A Weeknight Meal That Needs No Introduction - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/dining/sausage-peppers-recipe.html?&_r=0) * [Ewen Todd](http://ewentoddconsulting.com/2.html) * [Food Waste : ReFED | Rethink Food Waste](http://www.refed.com/?sort=economic-value-per-ton) * [Debra Palmer, Nutritional Sciences at Rutgers SEBS)](http://nutrition.rutgers.edu/faculty/debra-palmer.html) * [Transfer of Escherichia Coli to Lemons Slices and Ice during Handling](http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jfr/article/view/69114/37663) * [Canadian Center of Science and Education FAQs](http://web.ccsenet.org/faqs.html) * [Multistate Outbreak of Multidrug-Resistant Campylobacter Infections Linked to Contact with Pet Store Puppies](https://www.cdc.gov/campylobacter/outbreaks/puppies-9-17/index.html) * [Trendy beer names, invented by neural network](http://lewisandquark.tumblr.com/post/166075083502/trendy-beer-names-invented-by-neural-network) * [Don’t use a neural network to name your next pub](http://lewisandquark.tumblr.com/post/165081046962/dont-use-a-neural-network-to-name-your-next-pub)

Food Safety Talk 135: This is a podcast

The show opens with a discussion of Ben's busy hockey schedule, chess and other games you can play on your iPhone. After the usual discussion of popular culture and television, the guys discuss the dangers of buying your degree online, famous people Ben knows on twitter and eventually move to food safety. The first food safety topic for discussion is a recent article on the relationship between minimum wage and restaurant inspection reports. The listener feedback section includes a discussion of vacuum packaged fish and botulism, clever tips for training unusual audiences, and the importance of cleaning the crud at the bottom of steam kettles. This leads to a discussion of allergens and species adulteration. Listener feedback concludes with a discussion of lactic acid as an alternative to triclosan in dish liquids. A discussion of food safety in the news includes the risks of chicken sashimi, and some insight into the California nacho cheese outbreak. Show notes so you can follow along at home: Ep. 257: "Sonic Posture" - Roderick on the Line Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) on Twitter Really Bad Chess Zach Gage Go, game - Wikipedia FreeCell - Wikipedia Rick and Morty (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb Adventure Time - Wikipedia One Mississippi (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb Hinterland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb About Us David Lloyd Shetland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb Murder, She Wrote (TV Series 1984–1996) - IMDb Toronto man 'angry' after learning his $8,100 master's degree that required no exams or academic work is fake Ivor Tossell (@ivortossell) on Twitter Amber Tamblyn Calls James Woods ‘Predatory’ in Open Letter | Variety Urbanette How The Minimum Wage Affects Restaurant Hygiene : NPR Minimum Wage and Restaurant Hygiene Violation: Evidence from Food Establishments in Seattle by Subir K. Chakrabarti, Srikant Devaraj, Pankaj C. Patel Minimum Wage and Restaurant Hygiene Violation pdf King County restaurants to post signs showing health-inspection grade | The Seattle Times Outbreak of Type E Botulism Associated with an Uneviscerated, Salt-Cured Fish Product -- New Jersey, 1992 Quantification of Nonproteolytic Clostridium botulinum Spore Loads in Food Materials Glo Germ: visual tool for handwashing training, aseptic techniques, infection control Sanja Ilic Clear Labs Complementary molecular methods detect undeclared species in sausage products at retail markets in Canada - ScienceDirect Palmolive's New Detergent Kills Bacteria on Dishes Is It Safe To Eat Chicken Sashimi? | Food & Wine Chicken sashimi is risky; and gross California Explains how to use a Nacho Cheese Dispenser Nacho cheese botulism was likely linked to retail practices

Don and Ben talk Hurricane Harvey and food safety during power outages, British TV, podcast prepping, some food safety in the mainstream media American Greed. The guys then talked about the science behind ice cream, frozen yogurt went went to cutting melons, selling eggs stored at room temperature and tomato jam. Show notes so you can follow along at home: 4 Way Street - Wikipedia Ben Chapman on Twitter: “@bugcounter Definitely. https://t.co/U9l9pjyOqp” Food safety: What to keep and what to toss in a power outage | abc13.com Disaster Preparedness | North Carolina Cooperative Extension Videos Focus on Recovery in the Wake of a Flood | College of Agriculture and Life Sciences | NC State University ‎www.co.somerset.nj.us/home/showdocument?id=8228 White Gold (TV Series 2017– ) - IMDb Shetland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb List of American Greed episodes - Wikipedia Survival of Lactic Acid Bacteria in Commercial Frozen Yogurt - LOPEZ - 2006 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library ‘The windscreen phenomenon’ - why your car is no longer covered in dead insects Food Evolution – Narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson Food Politics by Marion Nestle » GMO propaganda film: Food Evolution Reducing Salmonella on cantaloupes and honeydew melons using wash practices applicable to postharvest handling, foodservice, and consumer preparation. - PubMed - NCBI Modeling the growth of Listeria monocytogenes on cut cantaloupe, honeydew and watermelon. - PubMed - NCBI Eggs > Guidance for Industry: Prevention of Salmonella Enteritidis in Shell Eggs During Production, Storage, and Transportation https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Regulations%20for%20Voluntary%20Grading%20of%20Shell%20Eggs.pdf https://www.fsis.usda.gov/shared/PDF/SE_Risk_Assess_Oct2005.pdf Maryn McKenna | WIRED Beating Back the Devil — Maryn McKenna Tomato Jam Recipe - NYT Cooking National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Jam and Jelly Metabiotic effect of Bacillus licheniformis on Clostridium botulinum: implications for home-canned tomatoes.

The show starts with a discussion about importance of being on time and time management, and then quickly moves to a discussion of recent and future podcast appearances by Don and Ben. They quickly dive into actual food safety, starting with the discussion about the Food Code and the risks posed by an unenclosed  outdoor bar. This is followed by further Food Code discussions related to the importance (or lack thereof) of wearing a head covering if you're bald, and Food Code definitions (or lack thereof) for 'clean' and 'balut'. Listener feedback leads into a discussion of Food Code Annex 3 and the scientific basis of the Food Code. This leads to a discussion of the importance of actually reading the references that you're citing. The guys discuss the comfy cow ice cream recall, and the importance of clear communication with customers. Ben talks about his experience cooking blue apron, and there is further discussion about meal kits safety, specifically on cooking directions.  The guys get heated up on the topic of sponge microbiology, which leads to a discussion of junk science on water bottle germs, and "Water Kefir", whatever that might be. The show wraps up with a quick mention of a recent CNN article, and the microbiology of blowing out candles on a birthday cake. * [What Is the Oxford Comma and Why Do People Care So Much About It?](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/) * [National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id296929739) * [Carolina Eagles Hockey](http://www.carolinaeagleshockey.com/) * [conference call bingo - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=conference+call+bingo&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCv5z7_czVAhVH4YMKHeIxCVQQsAQILg&biw=1667&bih=997) * [My Food Job Rocks!](http://myfoodjobrocks.com/episodes/) * [Food Safety Magazine podcast](http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/podcast/) * [StoryCorps – Stories from people of all backgrounds and beliefs](https://storycorps.org/) * [Food Safety Talk 1: Frampton Comes Alive — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2011/8/28/food-safety-talk-1-frampton-comes-alive.html) * [Food Safety Talk 0: StoryCorps] (****) * [6th Anniversary: Traditional Gift Ideas and More](https://www.thenest.com/content/sixth-anniversary-traditional-gift-ideas) * [Live from the Poundstone Institute : NPR](http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510322/live-from-the-poundstone-institute) * [Gas Light Co. sues city of Portsmouth over outside deck](http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/20170118/gas-light-co-sues-city-of-portsmouth-over-outside-deck) * [Conference for Food Protection](http://www.foodprotect.org/) * [2013 FDA Model Food Code as pdf](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/UCM374510.pdf) * [Utilization of Mathematical Models To Manage Risk of Holding Cold Food without Temperature Control](http://jfoodprotection.com/doi/abs/10.4315/0362-028X.JFP-12-424?code=fopr-site&journalCode=food) * [Quantifying the effect of hand wash duration, soap use, ground beef debris, and drying methods on the removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on hands](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25836392) * [The Case of the Creeping Fox Terrier Clone](https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone) * [Bully for Brontosaurus pdf](http://www.sjgouldessays.com/content/nh_essay_summaries_content/05%20Bully%20for%20Brontosaurus.pdf) * [The Comfy Cow Recalls Pints of Ice Cream Due To Possible E. Coli Contamination and/or High Coliform Counts](https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls/ucm570565.htm) * [To Our Customers - The Comfy Cow](http://www.thecomfycow.com/comfy-cow-response/) * [Meal kits and food safety | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/meal-kits-and-food-safety/) * [Who monitors meal kit safety? | WRVO Public Media](http://wrvo.org/post/who-monitors-meal-kit-safety) * [These sponges go to 14 | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/these-sponges-go-to-14/) * [Microbiome analysis and confocal microscopy of used kitchen sponges pdf](http://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-06055-9.pdf) * [Supplementary material for Sponge study](https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-017-06055-9/MediaObjects/41598_2017_6055_MOESM1_ESM.pdf) * [Water Bottle Germs Revealed 2017 from TreadmillReviews.net](http://www.treadmillreviews.net/water-bottle-germs-revealed/) * [Bacterial water quality in the personal water bottles of elementary students](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12353459) * [Water Kefir: How to Brew Water Kefir — Nourished Kitchen](http://nourishedkitchen.com/water-kefir/) * [Water Kefir Benefits & FAQs - Cultures for Health](http://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/water-kefir/water-kefir-frequently-asked-questions-faq/) * [Filthy food habits: How dirty are they? - CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health/science-dirty-food-habits-study/index.html) * [Bacterial Transfer Associated with Blowing Out Candles on a Birthday Cake](http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jfr/article/view/67217) * [Blowing out birthday candles increases bacteria on cake on USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/03/blowing-out-birthday-candles-increases-bacteria-cake-1-400/536178001/)

In this first post-IAFP recording, Don and Ben talk freeze talk freeze-tolerant trichina, Blue Apron arrival temperatures, the Fonz and the challenge of a food bank recall. Chipotle (and the company's employee paid sick leave policy) make an appearance.

In this special episode recorded live at IAFP 2017, Don and Ben chat with returning guest Dr. Freeze, and new guest "Pops".  They cover some of their favorite moments of the conference as well as listener feedback on meal delivery services, vacuum packaging and freezing. They discuss the chances that your food poisoning is from the last thing you ate as well as the poorly named "The 10 most contaminated foods in your fridge".  

Show notes so you can follow along at home: Generation X - Wikipedia Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture - Wikipedia Chef & the Farmer — VivianHoward.com Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) — Food Safety Talk Food Safety Talk 90: What if it’s a service dragon? — Food Safety Talk Foodborne Botulism – Illinois Type A Botulism From Sauteed Onions | JAMA | The JAMA Network Norovirus cross-contamination during preparation of fresh produce. - PubMed - NCBI Peoria Gyros pdf Health Inspector’s Notebook: Have a Shawarma, Donair or Gyro kebab for lunch today The secret life of kebabs and donairs | barfblog Piles of doner kebab meat transported in ‘sweaty’ car boot Prime Suspect - Wikipedia Prime Suspect: Tennison | Masterpiece PBS Food Evolution – Narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson Stewart Parnell gets 15 minutes of fame on ‘American Greed’ | Food Safety News American Greed: American Greed, Season 11, iTunes Tampa Convention Center No, There Isn’t Poop in Your Iced Coffee Faecal bacteria ‘in ice in Costa, Starbucks and Caffe Nero’ - BBC News Closing the Door on the Fecal Coliform Assay Closing the Door on the Fecal Coliform Assay pdf The data reported doesn’t point to human poop in iced coffee | barfblog CIEH Spokespeople ‘We are bathed, as a society, in human feces’ Urban Dictionary: Mann’s assumption Outbreak of Salmonella infections linked to frozen raw breaded chicken products - Public Health Agency of Canada Rhode Island Farmers Grill Senator on Food Safety

The show begins with a discussion of Ben's recent travels. From there the discussion moves on to obligatory talk about beverages, Canadian and Philadelphia accents, Apple, and other podcasts. The food safety talk begins in earnest with the discussion about what is meant by the words "risk assessment". From there the discussion turns to "food safety programs", restaurant inspections and what customers might want to know, the humor of David Lloyd, and then back to meat safety and proper thermometer use.  The show ends with The Onions humorous take on handwashing water temperature. The After Dark contains the usual nonsense including talk about music videos. * [Caldera - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera) * [Yellowstone Supervolcano Hit by a Swarm of More Than 400 Earthquakes in One Week](http://www.newsweek.com/yellowstone-supervolcano-earthquake-swarm-eruption-risk-627189) * [Definition of Dingus by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dingus) * [Foley (filmmaking) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking)) * [pamplemousse - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pamplemousse) * [LaCroix Flavors of Sparkling Water, Ranked From Worst to Best - Thrillist](https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/la-croix-flavors-sparkling-water) * [HBO: The Wire: Homepage](http://www.hbo.com/the-wire) * [Apple is going to let podcast creators — and advertisers — see what listeners actually like - Recode](https://www.recode.net/2017/6/10/15774936/apple-podcast-analytics-wwdc) * [Merch Save America – Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Risk Assessment of Human Listeriosis ](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/risa.12649/asset/risa12649.pdf;jsessionid=4594F13E901926E60BF68B54F6E8570A.f03t02?v=1&t=j45ym2x4&s=caa4ca3d042832cf61e99f82c32665f89d7f8173) * [Meat processed overseas, branded Australian faces ban in proposal by Federal crossbenchers](http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-06-19/mps-propose-australia-branding-ban-for-meat-processed-overseas/8631628) * [Designing a national restaurant inspection disclosure system for New Zealand. - PubMed - NCBI](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22054187) * [Professional Food Manager Practice Quiz - ProProfs Quiz](https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=professional-food-manager-practice-exam) * [About Us David Lloyd](https://www.cardiffmet.ac.uk/health/zero2five/about/Pages/David-Lloyd.aspx) * [Lebanese Raw Kibbe Recipe – Kibbeh Nayyeh](http://www.mamaslebanesekitchen.com/meats/lebanese-raw-kibbe-recipe-kibbeh-nayyeh/#sthash.CRMjLJNG.dpbs) * ['Cannibal sandwiches' sicken Wisconsin residents - NBC News](http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cannibal-sandwiches-sicken-wisconsin-residents-2D11703492) * [Meat and Poultry Dialogue - Meridian Institute](http://merid.org/MeatandPoultryDialogue) * [Summer Grilling Graphics - Fight Bac!](http://www.fightbac.org/summer-grilling-graphics/) * [160°F Is Good](https://160isgood.com/) * [Study: Hot Water Not Better For Washing Hands - The Onion - America's Finest News Source](http://www.theonion.com/americanvoices/study-hot-water-not-better-washing-hands-56173) * [The Onion - handwashing post](https://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/posts/10155512816959497) * [Van Halen - Panama (Music Video) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-NshzYK9y0) * [Taylor Swift - Shake It Off - 1989 African Hipster Version ft. Alex Boye Changing Lanes - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UuoFJZQ_k)

Don and Ben get down and dirty with shower habits, trips to Idaho and calendar best practices. They go in-depth on the science of handwashing, including temperatures and lathering styles including a creepy mechanical pigskin hand simulator. The show ends with a response to Roderick on the Line's question on keeping bacon fat on the stove and listener followup on home pasteurized eggs.

After a short recap regarding Ben's travels, and fermented food safety, the guys do a deep dive into the nacho cheese sauce linked botulism outbreak, resurfacing eventually to talk about leftovers and pop culture. * [Caddyshack - Gunga Galunga - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56VlKT0) * [The 65 Roses Story](https://www.cff.org/About-Us/About-the-Cystic-Fibrosis-Foundation/The-65-Roses-Story/) * [Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_same-sex_marriage_controversy) * [Merch Save America - Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Martin, Charles Cromwell](https://qormuseum.org/soldiers-of-the-queens-own/171-2/) * [Battle Diary: From D-Day and Normandy to the Zuider Zee and VE](https://www.amazon.ca/Battle-Diary-D-Day-Normandy-Zuider/dp/155002213X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329877252&sr=1-1) * [ComBase](http://www.combase.cc/index.php/en/) * [Colorado State Fermented Foods ppt pdf](http://fyi.uwex.edu/safepreserving/files/2015/08/Fermented-Foods_November-2-2015.pdf) * [Survival of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella enteritidis, Staphylococcus aureus, and Listeria monocytogenes in Kimchi](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15270509) * [Maybe that fermentation ain't working so well, Korea, 2012 - barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2013/06/maybe-that-fermentation-aint-working-so-well-1642-sickened-outbreak-of-e-coli-o169-in-schoolchildren-associated-with-consumption-of-kimchi-korea-2012/) * [Gehls Cheese Sauce Possibly Linked to Valley Oak Food and Fuel Gas Station Nacho Botulism Outbreak](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/foodborne-illness-outbreaks/gehls-cheese-sauce-possibly-linked-to-valley-oak-food-and-fuel-gas-station-nacho-botulism-outbreak-10-hospitalized-with-1-death/#.WSLwt1KZMUE) * [Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Gehl's Premium Nacho Cheese Sauce](https://www.amazon.com/Gehls-Premium-Nacho-Cheese-18-Ounce/product-reviews/B004PENTHI/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) * [Amazon.com: GEHL's, Jalapeno Cheese, 80.0 oz.](https://www.amazon.com/GEHLs-Jalapeno-Cheese-80-0-Count/dp/B01NBP7GAN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8) * [Sierra Peristaltic Cheese Sauce Dispenser - 120V, 200W](https://www.webstaurantstore.com/sierra-peristaltic-cheese-sauce-dispenser-120v-200w/106CD212.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=CNezj7XUg9QCFRc8gQodV2sE5Q) * [Nacho cheese linked to gas station botulism outbreak | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2017/05/nacho-cheese-linked-to-gas-station-botulism-outbreak/) * [FRI processed cheese article](https://fri.wisc.edu/files/Briefs_File/ProcCheese_May2005_v2.pdf) * [FPT Beverage Dispensers article](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e279/d59f294da52a1fdecd2a74627bdb2bb5b477.pdf) * [Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/noronerd?lang=en) * [Gehl Foods Recalls Nacho Cheese and Chili Sauce Dispensers Due to Fire and Burn Hazards](https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2009/gehl-foods-recalls-nacho-cheese-and-chili-sauce-dispensers-due-to-fire-and-burn-hazards) * [Dispensers from Gehl Foods](https://www.gehls.com/Dispensers.htm) * [10 hospitalized with botulism tied to nacho cheese](http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/health/california-botulism-nacho-cheese/) * [Can you get food poisoning twice in a row, from the same food? | Metro News](http://www.metronews.ca/views/citizen-scientist/2017/05/18/can-you-get-food-poisoning-twice-in-a-row-.html) * [Bruce Vilanch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Vilanch)

Don and Ben talked big concerts, Flaming Lips (the band, not the anatomy) obscure Canadian bands covering Neil Young and then got into some food safety stuff like the particulars of deer antler tea, with some deer penis sprinkled in. The discussion went to the rules around home-based food businesses and how risk-based decisions are made in regulatory choices. The episode finished with some listener feedback on washing produce and mold and whether food employees at Blue Apron (and like mail-order businesses) should have local health department food handler training. COOLIO Love and Rockets (band) - Wikipedia Pet Sounds - Wikipedia Cover version - Wikipedia Enjoy Every Sandwich: The Songs of Warren Zevon - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes II: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Day of the Dead (2016 album) - Wikipedia The Flaming Lips and Stardeath and White Dwarfs with Henry Rollins and Peaches Doing The Dark Side of the Moon - Wikipedia Watch The Flaming Lips’ Inner-Band Drama From Portlandia‘s Pickathon Episode - Stereogum Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - Wikipedia Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto - Wikipedia 10 years later: How the Mad Cow crisis changed an industry and a province (with videos) Deer-antler tea linked with botulism case in Orange County | abc7.com Deer Antler to Nourish Blood, Bone, and Joints Steve Harvey, Asian Remedies and Deer Penis – michelle in the kitchen Mailing List - New Jersey Home Bakers Bill NCDA&CS - Food & Drug Protection - Food Program AFDO Cottage Foods pdf AFDO Cottage Foods Presentation Corby.pdf Tragedy as ‘smiling’ baby Tyler Wilson dies of salmonella at five months old | Hull Daily Mail ‘Fry them’ comments in jury room could get Parnells a new trial | Food Safety News Why are salad greens always labeled “triple-washed”? Palumbo et al. article These go to 11.mpg - YouTube Julie Finigan Morris FSIS article on mold safety Parasitic Diseases, 6th Ed — This Week in Parasitism Blue Apron Has “Concerns” Over Proposed Food Safety Regulation - BuzzFeed News Boston’s Chicken & Rice Guys shutdown to “sort out” E. coli outbreak | Food Safety News

This episode starts with a chat about the need for butter refrigeration, bats and scorpions in leafy greens (oh my). The guys briefly celebrate Ben's birthday before talking about risk attribution, and yet another hot take on the 5 second rule, eating insects on purpose, and "food safety" tips from the internet. They make two book recommendations before talking about rat lungworm and other disgusting things. The show wraps with an example of doing food safety right, and breaking news about doing food safety wrong before a brief dip into pop culture. * [Do you really need to refrigerate butter? - TODAY.com](http://www.today.com/food/do-you-really-need-refrigerate-butter-t110371) * [Show me the data: butter at room temperature edition](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/show-me-the-data-butter-at-room-temperature-edition/) * [Bats in salad is yuck factor stuff; actual illnesses end up lost](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/bats-in-salad-is-yuck-factor-stuff-actual-illnesses-end-up-lost/) * [Dead Bat Found Inside Package of Salad in Florida, Officials Say](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/walmart-bat-organic-salad.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=) * [Isolation of Salmonella Virchow from a fruit bat (Pteropus giganteus)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24136382) * [Maryland Woman Finds Live Scorpion in Bag of Spinach ](http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Couple-Finds-Live-Scorpion-in-Bag-of-Spinach-419101614.html) * [Nena‎- 99 Luftballons - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4Dcd1aUcE) * [Ranking the disease burden of 14 pathogens in food sources in the United States...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22980012) * [Alton Brown on the 5-Second Rule](https://www.tastingtable.com/entertain/national/alton-brown-five-second-rule) * [Flour recall: How E. coli in flour can make you sick](http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/bakers-beware-how-e-coli-in-flour-can-make-you-sick-1.3373064) * [Get your fried grasshoppers here: the big hit at Mariners home games](http://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/get-your-fried-grasshoppers-here-the-big-hit-at-mariners-home-games/) * [8 Foods You Shouldn't Reheat (Because They Could Poison You)](http://www.myrecipes.com/healthy-diet/foods-leftovers-not-safe-reheat-poison) * [Feel free to order soup anywhere | Six Tips to Avoid Foodborne Illness When Dining Out](http://www.lifehacker.co.in/jugaad/six-tips-to-avoid-foodborne-illness-when-dining-out/feel-free-to-order-soup-anywhere/slideshow/58009353.cms) * [Kitchen Confidential Updated Edition: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0060899220/ref=rdr_ext_tmb) * [Heat: An Amateur's Adventures as Kitchen Slave, Line Cook, Pasta-Maker, and Apprentice to a Dante-Quoting Butcher in Tuscany](https://www.amazon.com/Heat-Adventures-Pasta-Maker-Apprentice-Dante-Quoting/dp/1400034477/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8) * [Pod Save America on Twitter](https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) * [Rat Lungworm on Hawaii puts produce at risk](http://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/rat-lungworm-on-hawaii-puts-produce-at-risk/#.WPeLv1KZMUE) * [Undercooled meat. Dangerous fish. Health inspectors ding Trump’s Mar-a-Lago kitchen](http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/restaurants/article144261894.html) * [AmazonFresh](https://www.amazon.com/AmazonFresh/b?ie=UTF8&node=10329849011) * [Mango Ice Cream Bars Recalled in Georgia due to Salmonella](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/food-recall/mango-ice-cream-bars-recalled-in-georgia-due-to-salmonella/#.WPeRMFKZMUE) * [Brockmire](http://www.ifc.com/shows/brockmire)

In this episode, Don and Ben talk about life hacks and things that might not be life hacks; Gwyneth Paltrow, cookbooks and Ben's recent media experiences (and the perils of emailing while sitting on the toilet). Also in this episode the guys breakdown STEC in soy nut butter and Dixie Dew's FDA 483 form plus a bonus on ROP cheeses.