Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show

Ezra Booth, one of the earliest converts soon left and wrote 9 letters which were published in the Ohio Star newspaper from Oct 13-Dec 8, 1831. He addressed many topics claiming accurate accounts, events and beliefs of Mormonism. Much is contrary from Mormon sources. I addressed several of his claims which probably all historians would obviously conclude false.  Joseph Smith claimed all authority and live beyond any gospel laws and principles Commit adultery Kill the husband  Common consent Church covenants I also addressed a claim by Lee Baker 2 weeks ago, that the First Presidency and the Twelve made a false statement about Joseph Smith in the 2008  2009 Priesthood and Relief Society Manual.  It is difficult on many topics to sort out divergence sources to decide which to accept. 

Ezra Booth, one of the earliest converts soon left and wrote 9 letters which were published in the Ohio Star newspaper from Oct 13-Dec 8, 1831. He addressed many topics claiming accurate accounts, events and beliefs of Mormonism. Much is contrary from Mormon sources. I addressed several of his claims which probably all historians would obviously conclude false. Joseph Smith claimed all authority and live beyond any gospel laws and principlesCommit adulteryKill the husband Common consentChurch covenantsI also addressed a claim by Lee Baker 2 weeks ago, that the First Presidency and the Twelve made a false statement about Joseph Smith in the 2008  2009 Priesthood and Relief Society Manual. It is difficult on many topics to sort out divergence sources to decide which to accept. 

Christopher Smith, interested in Mormon history, has published an article in the Journal of Mormon History, "Playing Lamanite: Ecstatic Performance of American Indian Roles in Early Mormon Ohio." Early Church history (1830-1831, in Kirtland) is open to considerable interpretation of diverse contradictions of many early and late sources. 

Christopher Smith, interested in Mormon history, has published an article in the Journal of Mormon History, "Playing Lamanite: Ecstatic Performance of American Indian Roles in Early Mormon Ohio." Early Church history (1830-1831, in Kirtland) is open to considerable interpretation of diverse contradictions of many early and late sources. 

Christopher Smith, interested in Mormon history, has published an article in the Journal of Mormon History, "Playing Lamanite: Ecstatic Performance of American Indian Roles in Early Mormon Ohio."Early Church history (1830-1831, in Kirtland) is open to considerable interpretation of diverse contradictions of many early and late sources. 

146. Translation • Seer Stone • LDS Article, with Martin Tanner

145. Follow-up on Polygamy vs Plural Marriage, Celestial Marriage,,,etc.

Lee Baker, an ex-Mormon, was my guest. We were having some difficulty discussing divergent views. These were included: Lee contrasting D&C 132:39 (that is using only a portion of v. 39) with Jacob 2:24 (leaving out verse 23 & 30). Lee claimed that D&C 132 was not printed until 1876. My point was that it was first published by the Deseret News in September 1852, by Orson Pratt in Washington, DC 1853 and that it was the topic hundreds of times from 1852 to 1876. He would not acknowledge this. D&C 1835 ed. was a topic which would have been worthwhile. He has maintained that the Church is hiding this from LDS. I was attempting to claim that Deseret Book has been selling the D&C 1835 ed. from 2011, but my explanation did not materialize. A meaningful discussion on the article Marriage also did not materialize. I will pursue this another time. Lee wanted to talk about the Joseph Smith Translation. This was a very good topic. He wanted to discuss Gen 17 about JS's change. I wanted to tie this in with Moroni 8, Acts 15, the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (95 AD - 150 AD) and the 1611 KJV translators spin on a number of OT passages. This would be a good topic. We went around and around about a phrase in the Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph Smith manual in chapter 43 and JS, many times, declaring that he is fallible, committed sin etc. mentioned in the D&C and in the JS manual, which Lee denied. See chapter 46 in the manual.

Lee Baker, an ex-Mormon, was my guest. We were having some difficulty discussing divergent views. These were included:Lee contrasting D&C 132:39 (that is using only a portion of v. 39) with Jacob 2:24 (leaving out verse 23 & 30).Lee claimed that D&C 132 was not printed until 1876. My point was that it was first published by the Deseret News in September 1852, by Orson Pratt in Washington, DC 1853 and that it was the topic hundreds of times from 1852 to 1876. He would not acknowledge this.D&C 1835 ed. was a topic which would have been worthwhile. He has maintained that the Church is hiding this from LDS. I was attempting to claim that Deseret Book has been selling the D&C 1835 ed. from 2011, but my explanation did not materialize. A meaningful discussion on the article Marriage also did not materialize. I will pursue this another time.Lee wanted to talk about the Joseph Smith Translation. This was a very good topic. He wanted to discuss Gen 17 about JS's change. I wanted to tie this in with Moroni 8, Acts 15, the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (95 AD - 150 AD) and the 1611 KJV translators spin on a number of OT passages. This would be a good topic.We went around and around about a phrase in the Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph Smith manual in chapter 43 and JS, many times, declaring that he is fallible, committed sin etc. mentioned in the D&C and in the JS manual, which Lee denied. See chapter 46 in the manual.

With my guest, Paul Brandt, we discussed many thoughts and ideas on Sex: Born with sexual desire? Does sexual desire primarily urge procreation or sex relationship? Only for procreation - married or not - homosexual or heterosexual? Do, or soon will, LDS accept Same Sex Marriage? Marriage - a major focus of the Church  With or without sex   Satisfaction  Continence Increase or decrease sex drive Many, probably most, in the resurrection will be single Some LDS do not want marriage Some LDS are married, but do not want children Some LDS are divorced and do not to remarry Some sex problems Who is considered to ultimately make marital decisions, Church policy, the wife or the husband?   Same Sex issues Birth control Old Testament New Testament Celibacy Eunuchs Fornication or homosexual - which is the greater sin? Statements from the First Presidency

With my guest, Paul Brandt, we discussed many thoughts and ideas on Sex:Born with sexual desire?Does sexual desire primarily urge procreation or sex relationship?Only for procreation - married or not - homosexual or heterosexual?Do, or soon will, LDS accept Same Sex Marriage?Marriage - a major focus of the Church With or without sex  Satisfaction ContinenceIncrease or decrease sex driveMany, probably most, in the resurrection will be singleSome LDS do not want marriageSome LDS are married, but do not want childrenSome LDS are divorced and do not to remarrySome sex problemsWho is considered to ultimately make marital decisions, Church policy, the wife or the husband?  Same Sex issuesBirth controlOld TestamentNew TestamentCelibacyEunuchsFornication or homosexual - which is the greater sin?Statements from the First Presidency

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