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Summary: This Week in Mormons is the leading podcast on Latter-day Saintnews and issues, peppered with a bit of absurdist comedy and snappy wit! Join our host and editor-in-chief, Geoff Openshaw, as he partners with engaging Latter-day Saint co-hosts from around the world to bring you the best in Latter-day Saint news and commentary. Follow the blog at thisweekinmormons.com Episodes typically published mid-week.

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 EP 441 – Linking the Generations: An Interview with Dan Debenham of Relative Race | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 49:26

[dropcap]I[/dropcap]ncredible show for you this week! Do you love BYU TV's Relative Race? Do you love family history? Do you love a little friendly competition? Do you love genial hosts? If so, stick around for a terrific interview with Dan Debenham, host and producer of Relative Race. Learn about behind-the-scenes work on the show and see how Dan's passion for bringing families together plays out on screen. Transcript Geoff Openshaw: [0:00] Hey there TWiMsters. [0:03] Welcome once again and thank you for tuning into another harrowing edition of this week in Mormons the greatest podcast in the entire world, that's what I said it move over Joel Osteen we've got this covered on this week's special show however we're going to do a flip the calendar back a few pages because I did two months ago we had the privilege of interviewing the producer and host a relative race and if you're not familiar with relative race is a terrific BYUtv program that bring some competition to the proceedings but at the end of the day it's really about uniting families it's at is the seasons of going on, are the contestants of showed up with some incredible stories and watching them reunite with loved ones meet them for the first time and really see that the power of the spirit of Elijah, on-screen is really something special and when we interviewed and it always thought I'd be just kind of a nice way to plug the show and learn some behind-the-scenes stuff which is part of the interview but what I really loved and reflecting on it, hi is how passionate Dan is about, the genealogical aspect of it about bringing people together even contestants who don't make it on air for example about still, letting them linked together with their families there's something really really moving and useful in them and because season 6 of relative race just premiered this past weekend check it out if you haven't done so, we thought it'd be a great time to revisit this interview and see what we can learn about family history and how. [1:31] BYUtv has really Amplified its content in recent years, the great to me like to stress about relative races yeah it's not just this competition show yes there's a prize at the end. But at the end of the day there's something a lot more meaningful behind it so with that I will hand it over to myself. All right well now it listeners we are very excited to bring on our special guests for this week's episode and Evan ham from relative races with a side an. Dan Debenham: [2:00] Hey how you doing Jeff. Geoff Openshaw: [2:03] I'm super thanks for being with us. Dan Debenham: [2:05] Anytime anytime. Geoff Openshaw: [2:08] We're big fans of relative race on the show where supporters very excited incidentally if I can self indulge for just a moment I found out about relative race two years ago and Susan one came on because, my co-host Al was featured on turning point. Dan Debenham: [2:25] No way. Geoff Openshaw: [2:27] Yes so after watching down on the BYUtv at my wife and I were perusing and we saw a relative race were big The Amazing Race man to wear in the genealogy and that's how we got into it so Al I guess we have you to thank for this. Al Doan: [2:39] I I honestly I feel like most of the success of relative race comes back to to me. Dan Debenham: [2:45] That's what I was thinking I was thinking why are you guys even talking to me it's Al that we should all be speaking to right now. Geoff Openshaw: [2:52] Yeah but they are actually at that popped in my head last night so I'm glad we got to do...

 EP 440 – Rogue Sunday School Teachers | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:03:12

[dropcap]H[/dropcap]ey party people! Welcome to another week in This Week in Mormons. The Sisters (not the great Sistaz) are here to recap the most recent week in Latter-day Saint news. Did you miss out on last week's dynamite interview with Dr. Matt Harris about Ezra Taft Benson and the rise of Mormon fringe conservatism? The Sisters adored it. You should adore it, too. http://thisweekinmormons.com/2019/09/episode-439-ezra-taft-benson-and-the-mormon-right-w-matt-harris-thunder-from-the-right-book/ Are Mormon men "groomed" not to listen to women? Blogger Jana Riess says yes. Some others say no. So let's talk about the ins and outs of this and also give you a chance to rake us over the coals for our Facebook post about it. Weeks after we broke the news that firearms and other weapons are now prohibited in church facilities, the trickle effect continues, as the institute at Utah Valley University had to clarify that one cannot carry a firearm within the institute. http://thisweekinmormons.com/2019/08/the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-updates-handbook-to-prohibit-firearms-in-meetinghouses/ Lavina Fielding Anderson, one of the "September Six," a group of intellectuals excommunicated in quick order in the early 1990s, lost her bid to be rebaptized. Despite having attended her ward faithfully in the 25 years since her excommunication and having her request for rebaptism approved by local leadership, Church leadership in Salt Lake put the kabosh on the whole thing. Why? Time for Mormons Behaving Badly! A St. George chiropractor/fake doctor was arrested on charges of sex abuse. An Oregon driver's ed instructor who was also the bishop of his ward was arrested on sex abuse charges. A Utah County woman was arrested at Manila airport with a newborn in her bag. Two missionaries in Klamath Falls, Oregon were injured by a "stray bullet." More seriously, two missionaries serving in Canada were in a major car accident. Update: one of them has died. Utah's Records Committee ordered Brigham Young University's borderline discredited campus police to provide copies of emails between law enforcement and the Honor Code Office. It's the latest in a series of volleys against BYU's handling of Honor Code and other issues. In more lighthearted missionary news, a group of missionaries in Taiwan, in search of a Chili's (because we do desperate things when abroad for too long) helped a blind woman only to find out later on the entire t...

 EP 439 – Ezra Taft Benson and the Mormon Right w/ Matt Harris | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:19:33

University of Illinois Press Listeners of This Week in Mormons get 30% off and free shipping by using the promo code Mormon30 with this link. [dropcap]L[/dropcap]atter-day Saints have long been associated with conservative political movements, but that wasn’t always the case. The 1950s and 60s represented a period of enormous social change, not just within American culture, but within Mormon culture. Ezra Taft Benson, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve apostles, and President Eisenhower’s Secretary of Agriculture, was famous for his far-right political and social views, and he brought along a large number of the Church with him. Today, we’re going to explore how Ezra Taft Benson played a pivotal role in Mormonism’s shift to the right. Dr. Matt Harris is a professor of history at Colorado State University-Pueblo. He received a BA and MA in history at BYU, his MPhil and PhD, also in history, at the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University. He is a scholar of Religious Studies, with a special emphasis on Mormons and Race, Mormon extremism, and Mormons and civil rights. His most recent publications include Thunder from the Right: Ezra Taft Benson in Mormonism and Politics (University of Illinois Press, 2019), Watchmen on the Tower: Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right (University of Utah Press, forthcoming spring of 2020), and (with Newell Bringhurst) The Mormon Church and Blacks: A Documentary History, which was published by the University of Illinois Press in 2015.  His recent articles include “Mormons and Lineage: The Complicated History of Blacks and Patriarchal Blessings,” 1830-2018,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought (Fall 2018), "Confronting and Condemning Hard Doctrine, 1978-2013," Mormon Studies Review (forthcoming), and "'Utah is the last in the union to recognize the Martin Luther King holiday by name': Mormons, Martin Luther King and the Quest for Racial Justice," Utah Historical Quarterly (forthcoming).  Currently, he is at work on two books: The Long Awaited Day: Mormons, Blacks, and the Lifting of the Priesthood and Temple Ban, 1945-2018 and Hugh B. Brown: Mormonism's Progressive Apostle. He lives in Colorado with his wife and three kids. Transcript Geoff Openshaw: [2:43] Matt Harris thank you for joining us. Matt Harris: [2:55] It's a pleasure Geoff. Geoff Openshaw: [2:58] And Jared oh by the way injury to everyone. Jared Gillins: [2:59] That's right Jared Gillins I'm welcoming myself back since Jeff didn't welcome me. Geoff Openshaw: [3:05] Well we might do some stuff you know before after who knows we'll be fine anyway I'm I'm excited by the building up for this interview for a while I haven't read the book that the primary driver for this interview is the book that's out now a thunder from the right by Ezra Taft Benson which I think is an amazing title Matt what was the did you help name that title or was that somebody else. Matt Harris: [3:27] Sister actually it was the title of one of the essays on offense in the presidency and. The press in consultation with me said how can we Co-op that title for the book and I said sure no it wasn't my idea where this another SAS and then you can press that it would be a clever title so I agreed that's how we got it. Geoff Openshaw: [3:53] And I should know by the way you are the editor you you would have peace and it within the book we are the editor of the book of is a series of essays in the sense it's not a single work just bite you. Matt Harris: [4:02] Yeah that's cracked I wrote I wrote the introduction whi...

 EP 438 – Algorithms Are the Worst | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:04:21

[dropcap]L[/dropcap]eading Saints' legendary founder and host, Kurt Francom, joins us this week to dissect the news, talk about Leading Saint amazing new Liberating Saints virtual summit, which is aimed at combating pornography addiction. Sign up! Lots of temple news this week, including an admission by President Nelson that we should expect more temple announcements this upcoming General Conference as well as "other" announcements. But which temples? And what does "other" mean?. Haiti's first temple, in the capital of Port-au-Prince, was dedicated over the weekend by Elder David A. Bednar of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. President Rebelo de Sousa of Portugal toured the Lisbon Portugal Temple during its open house last week. Always fun when a head of state visits one of our buildings. The Church released renderings of the Richmond Virginia Temple, and Geoff is giddy! Lastly, to celebrate their temple's rededication, saints in the Raleigh North Carolina Temple district are holding a fun run 5K to the temple grounds. Spiritual and physical fitness, friends. Let's move to missionaries. Are returned missionaries the key to Utah's success with startups? One publication thinks so. Third Hour, the Mormon Buzzfeed, republished an article about how mission calls are issued, so... read it again. We came across a terrific article on finding the right balance between making assignments and asking for volunteers at Church. The Church runs on assignments, but we have to go about it the right way. JTM, formerly James the Mormon, formerly Jamesthemormon, is changing names again, mostly because he says people, even at church, make him feel unwelcome over his continued reference to "Mormon." He also admits this is a play on search algorithms, as his music is not meant to be lumped into the newest Kenneth Cope album. There's some biased journalism over at High Country News, but author Emma Penrod

 EP 437 – Those Who Bringeth Guns to Church Shall Inherit the Terrestrial Kingdom | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:03:45

Editor's Note: At one point in the episode, Geoff accidentally says “Toledo” when referring to the mass shooting in Dayton. We regret the error and any unintentional insensitivity that may have caused. [dropcap]J[/dropcap]osie Gleave joins us from the other side of the world to bring her international perspective on the week's happenings. And, boy, what a week for having some of that non-American perspective on the news. Did you know This Week in Mormons is now on Spotify? For real! Just follow this link and hit that "Follow" button. If you're an iTunes or Apple Podcasts user, we'd LOVE it if you'd both subscribe AND leave a review. Reviews help promote This Week in Mormons via Apple's listing algorithms. It's a little thing, but it'll help more people know about the show! Alright, on to the news. The Church announced a few new name changes as we move to a post-"Mormon" future. This time around, LDS Charities and LDS Family Services have been renamed Latter-day Saint Charities and just Family Services, respectively. The latter is perhaps the most confusing. Why no "Latter-day Saints" to identify it among a sea of faith-based family services organizations? It makes no sense. Keeping with that theme, Jana Riess adroitly analyzed Google Trends to see if there's been any change in web search traffic for "Mormon" and "Latter-day Saints" in the past year. The results aren't altogether shocking, but it's interesting to see trends, however small, develop. President Nelson is on one of them that world ministry tours again, this time hitting Latin America. Aside from a Deseret News article that is strangely concerned with how many miles he's traveling, it's cool to see the prophet bring his personal touch to the region. Josie wonders why the prophet doesn't stay longer and what the value is in these quick stops, but the Church news mentions President Nelson's personal need to visit the saints in person as best as he's able. Our other big story is the one that divide us no matter how much we say "Follow the Prophet." Recently, the Church quietly updated Handbook 2 to expressly forbid firearms within meetinghouses and other places of worship. We broke the story over the weekend and the rest of the media picked up on it a few days later. Gun rights hit close to home for many, and it's been pretty surprising to see how many faithful Latter-day Saints are flatly refusing to abide by this regulation. It's interesting how choosy we can all be when it comes to selective obedience. Also, hat tip to the Salt Lake Tribune for quoting Geoff's article! How about that Mike Pence, eh?

 EP 436 – Alright, I’m Going to Denny’s | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:02:03

Please give a warm welcome (and hit the subscribe button in honor of said warm welcome) to none other than Al Doan, who has decided to check in on our operation. It's nice to have him back, even for a spell. There were a few big-ticket items in Latter-day Saint news this week. Arguably the largest, at least gauged by social media reaction, was a clarification on the Word of Wisdom first published in The New Era and later referenced in an official press release. The Word of Wisdom has a knack for sparking contention within our ranks, and we'll see if the clearer guidance—that iced tea is still tea of the prohibited variety—takes root among the saints. The week's other large story is new required abuse prevention training for ward and branch leaders. The Church continues to evolve in its approach to protecting youth and children from abuse and other dangerous situations. Whether it is proactive or even in reaction to the work of some like Sam Young, there's now an online resource as well as a link to the required training. Ed Smart, Elizabeth Smart's father, came out as gay last week, and some media outlets can't seem to get enough of it. Is the Salt Lake Tribune merely swimming in the calming waters of good SEO, or are we overreaching? After all, Ed is merely a somewhat prominent Mormon who has come out and decided to leave the Church. But Al and Geoff disagree on how much we, as everyday members of the Church, should bear any brunt of criticism for making one feel that they no longer belong? It was an article that made Al question is decision to return. Third Hour, the Buzzfeed of Mormonism, published an article containing 21 times Parks and Recreation, the NBC sitcom, perfectly reflected the Latter-day Saint experience. So yeah. BYU has a queer community. They need support. And to help support one another, on occasion they meet up to socialize and mobilize. This time out, they hit that institution of institutions, Denny's. Provo has so many options superior to Denny's, and yet, they chose Denny's. Have you seen the classic LDS video, “The Prodigal Son”? It's required viewing for any Latter-day Saint, and our own Jared Jones has a breakdown of this classic 1990s short video on Latter-day Saint Video Vault. Likewise, our own Jeff Borders interviewed Colby Ferrin, a rapper who is Mormon. Al has decided the setlist of his debut album is clearly only about drug addiction or masturbation. He has no proof. A Twitter user claims someone refused to interact with her because she said "the M word," or "Mormon." And she's serious. If this happened.... geez.

 EP 435 – So You Think You Can Morm? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:00:46

[dropcap]W[/dropcap]elcome to another week! Tiffany and Arianne are here to help YOU navigate all things Latter-day Saints. Did you know that polygamists are people, too? It's true! In fact, polygamists from around the land, religious and irreligious alike, gathered in southern Utah to do the same things we monogamists do - hang on a lake on a boat. Election fraud is a real issue that, unfortunately, often becomes a political tool depending on the national mood. However, despite how much alleged fraud doesn't occur at all, in Utah, fraud is real because the mothers of full-time missionaries for the Church wind up voting on their behalf. It's easy to laugh about it because it carries with it such an innocuous face, but fraud is fraud. To shame, Utah mothers! A new film, The Fighting Preacher, is making the rounds in the Intermountain West, and reviews are solid! about this story that you probably haven't heard of before. Last year, we reported that the Church was closing its family history center in downtown Park City, Utah. Well now, that unused property is on the market. You can own a piece of history! In hot, Fox-based news, two Latter-day Saint siblings have made it into the top 10 on long-running dance competition show, So You Think You Can Dance? Let the record show we do not think we can dance. In keeping with the reality competition theme, a nurse and former Southern Utah University student advances to the American Ninja Warrior finals! A Mormon kids whose cancer returned 13 days before he was supposed to leave on his mission is making the rounds with his story. He is a man of faith, and his journey will inspire you. After revising its guidelines for submissions, the Church has ceased taking submissions for the new hymn book. But what will new hymns entail? Will any of them follow the coveted 1-5-6-4 progression?! It wouldn't be LDS Living without a random listicle. This time, we have a handful of funny tweets that come from trek reenactments that would allegedly make the pioneers laugh. Because we all need laughter when Jimmy has contracted cholera and you failed to shoot that bear and your family starves.

 EP 434 – Tapirs! Tapirs, I Say! | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:00:38

[dropcap]W[/dropcap]e're thrilled this week to be joined by our friend, Devin Thorpe, progenitor and proprietor of Your Mark on the World. Devin's mission is, simply (and easily, right?) to make the world a better place. But how? That's his jam. Even though the Church has been not exactly forthcoming with details of the new youth program, it has at least announced the theme for the year, which is based on 1 Nephi 3:7 ("I will go and do the things the Lord commands"). On the surface, this seems like a perfectly fine theme, encouraging youth to act on faith in difficult situations, just as Nephi did. But Devin is concerned that it could also lead others to engage in irrational, even violent, behavior, all in the name of God's commands. Robert Kirby of the Salt Lake Tribune is officially the paper's humor columnist (and we've spent plenty of time tearing down some of his iffier articles), but this week he makes a more grounded argument: that attacking someone's religion is the same as attacking their personal traits. It's not a mere criticism of a faith, but becomes a criticism of the individual. In an op ed at Religion News Service, a Utah writer discusses at length his belief in the veracity of the Book of Mormon and the divine mission of Joseph Smith, but then stresses that he does not believe in the Church, nor is he advocating for the mission of the Church. Can one be a post-Church Mormon? A University of Washington student, who clearly has an editor that doesn't even know how to spell "Christ" - decided to visit an LDS congregation. She writes a column covering her visits to different religious services. She came away with an understanding that Mormons are very tight knit and hospitable. In other non-believer visits, a humanist decided to hit up the Hill Cumorah Pageant, currently in its penultimate season. You know how the Book of Mormon mentions horses and then academics argue that the Spanish introduced horses into the Americas, thus creating another in many purported logical, archaeological, and anthropological inconsistencies? Well, researchers specializing in Native American history have discovered evidence of horses in the pre-Colombian era, and those pesky, fake-news academics should take notice! QuitMormon.com aims to allow departing members of the Church have an easier time submitting a legal memo to the Church to have their records removed. The problem, however, is that the Church requires such forms to be notarized, and it asked QuitMormon to provide that or its submissions will be rendered moot. All of this has curiously transpired a few weeks after we discussed an article on The Verge that explored QuitMormon at length. http://thisweekinmormons.com/2019/08/come-follow-me-resources-make-your-personal-study-even-easier/

 EP 433 – Inclusion | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 58:18

[dropcap]I[/dropcap]t's finally happened! Geoff and Josie successfully recorded a show without and technological hiccups! Praise the day! How can we create more inclusion at church? A new piece by, well, the church discusses how to recognize those that might feel left out and what behavior we can engage in to make our wards a more inviting, thoughtful place. It's good stuff. Josie has our international news roundup, including: The Church is growing massively in Mozambique with three new stakes predicted by the end of the year/ The Southeast Africa Area, which covers the lion's share of Africa, is going to be divided, which makes a ton of sense given the amount of membership growth in recent years. Mongolia will be taken out of the Asia Area and moved to the Asia North Area. So yeah. It's not all bad in Venezuela. The country held its first young single adult conference! Indonesia held its first ever youth conference! Cool! Prince Ata of Tonga visits Utah and spends an inordinate amount of time in Provo. The Church opens a new family history center in downtown Paris. The best story of the week: some saints in New Zealand flip out about seeing rare crane on the local meetinghouse's property wall. Activist Sam Young will hold a new rally in Salt Lake City as he continues his push to prevent youth from sitting in unnecessarily invasive bishop's interviews. A Latter-day Saint state senator from Arizona falls into some hot water for warning us that America is being, uh, infested by "brown" people. Neat. What would the electoral college look like if the State of Deseret had become a reality? It would be the largest in the country! The Interpreter has a review of Michael Quinn's new book on church finances has , and it's a doozy. Living stipends! Who cares?

 EP 432 – Bye Bye, EFY | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:04:54

[dropcap]S[/dropcap]top whatever you are doing and listen to this podcast. Why? WHY?! Because Kurt Francom of Leading Saints is here to discuss the news with the one, the only, G-Off. It's going to be lit, as the youths might say. Plenty of news this week pertaining to youth. For starters, Especially for Youth, or EFY, is basically on the outs. Gone will be the annual hajj to Provo to spend a week basking in the glory of the 801, to be replaced by a biennial For the Strength of Youth, or FSY, program. FSY will be more local and run by young single adults. The Church hasn't released tons of other details, but here we are. At least this will stop people from trekking every other year. In other youth news, the Church continues its slow tease of upcoming changes to the children and youth programs. But wait! There's a name - Children and Youth. Err, so there's that. We're still waiting until September 29 to find out what all of this will be about, but now we at least know that the programs will seem to let youth make their own goals as opposed to adhering to a specific program or predetermined goal set. We are living in the correlated era of less correlation. President Russell M. Nelson gave a speech at the NAACP's annual convention this week, and his remarks were received warmly by those in attendance and across the interwebs. However, many still wish for a full repudiation of the Church's past racist policies. Don't hold your breath for that. Still, that desire was once realized many years ago, when some members, including a Seventy, actually worked on an apology for previous policies. Kurt has a brilliant, if out there, idea for how to bring temple work to others. You have to hear this! You know how people want to storm Area 51 and see what the government does with 1 million folks overrunning a top secret installation? Well, some Utah folk want to do the same - to the Church's famed granite mountain vault that holds genealogical records. And there are no guards! Layton, Utah no longer has to wonder where its temple will be located. Now it knows. IT KNOWS. Apparently you can't sue someone over injuries sustained during church basketball, per the Utah Supreme Court. Utah is stupid. President M. Russell Ballard dedicated a new children's memorial at This Is the Place park in Utah, recognizing the over 600 children that died en route to the Salt Lake Valley. Church leaders also used the opportunity to remind the public that we, as Latter-day Saints, believe in being pluralistic and inviting immigrants into our communities.

 EP 431 – Super Religious White People | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 56:19

[dropcap]A[/dropcap]nother week, another TWiM. Join sisters Tiffany and Arianne on a journey of discovery and wonder across the magical realm of Latter-day Saint news! Enterprising Brigham Young University student Braden Sharp has taken a page from the horrendous "LDS Millionaire" playbook and placed a billboard ad - for himself. Braden needs love, everyone, and you will give it to him. Give him all your love. KSL, eager to jump on the Braden Bandwagon, published a supplemental article asking whether billboards are the new thing in dating. You know, like instead of Tinder or Mutual or whatever. No. Nearly a year since President Nelson started nudging Mormons Latter-day Saints away from all things "Mormon," the New York Times has published a full profile of the effort, what's changed, and how Latter-day Saints have adapted in the last 12 months. In one of the coolest stories of the week, a Latter-day Saint-focused choir that was slated to perform in New York's Carnegie Hall improvised when it was forced to evacuate the facility due to New York City's massive blackout. But rather than take their lumps and quickly seek out the nearest Num Pang, choir members moved to the streets outside Carnegie Hall and performed an impromptu set. The event went viral rather quickly, as one might imagine when "I Believe in Christ" is echoing through the urban canyon of buildings in Midtown Manhattan. Former employer of the inimitable McKay Coppins, The Daily Beast, gave us a fascinating insight into the world of Mormon teen influencers, how they operate, and what drives them to help fellow Latter-day Saint teens be their best selves. Did you watch season three of Stranger Things? If so, you were entreated to a small mention of Mormons in the first episode (plus a rousing musical number with said Mormon in the finale). However, Jana Riess caught the first episode and wondered about that references to Mormons as "religious white people." Was it accurate? Is it accurate? Was it just a lazy jab on the part of Stranger Things' screenwriters? Emma Gee, a runner at BYU, writes an article about being the only "out" athlete at BYU while arguing there are plenty more LGBT athletes at the university. It's an open, heartfelt piece that deals with the obstacles Gee, who is bi, has faced as she's confronted her own sexuality and religiosity. Remember our fine friends from Studio C that started their own comedy house,

 EP 430 – So Much Varnish That It Glows | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:08:26

[dropcap]W[/dropcap]e're pleased to welcome back erstwhile Sunday School Bonanza host, Jared Gillins, as he sits with Geoff to talk all things Latter-day Saint News. Jared and his brother recently started the Jean-Luc Picodcast, a podcast examining personal stories of how fans of Star Trek: The Next Generation have been impacted by the show, and of course, by Jean-Luc Picard. It appears the Church has commissioned a survey to gauge Latter-day Saints' feelings on lowering the age for "youth" interviews all the way down to eight years old. Naturally, this ruffles some feathers. It's worth noting that the survey asks who should conduct such hypothetical interviews, including the primary president, but it does not contain an option for a respondent to state simply that he or she disapproves of the entire premise. Bad survey writing there. And strange timing, too. In the wake of Sam Young, is the Church exploring the issue more, or is this just clunky timing and Public Affairs is asleep at the wheel (again)? President M. Russell Ballard spoke recently at mission president training (new mission presidents enter the field in the beginning of July) where he denounced the practice of hasty or premature baptism invitations. This is something of a watershed moment, as too often we've leaned on intensity, urgency, boldness, etc., with missionaries without encouraging them to be patient with the spirit. When we bring people into the Church before they are ready, we can risk hurting them and the ward into which they are baptized. Keeping with the missionary theme, missionaries serving in 18 countries will now be asked to pay 25% more per month, up to $500 from $400. But that amount still tracks under what the inflated "cost" of a mission is, so... count your blessings? Hey! The guests have been announced for President Russell M. Nelsons' 95th birthday soiree! That's all well and good, but it causes us to pause and ask a question: Why are we throwing this huge parties for the Prophets and when did they start? How do events like these help us with our embattled narrative that we don't worship Joseph Smith, for example, when we elevate the president of the Church to mythic status? Brigham Young University's Honor Code office is in the news again, but this time because it is updating some of its policies and guidelines, notable that the, erm, "accused" are now innocent until proven guilty. Yes, prior to this change, if a roommate ratted you out, the Honor Code office just took that at face value and brought down the boom. Now it will actually take time to do some due diligence. Go figure! Who knew we could live in a world with such basic rights?! Normally excellent tech site The Verge writes a weak and biased piece about the website that helps Mormons resign their membership in the Church.

 EP 429 – Let’s Talk About Sex | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:06:57

[dropcap]T[/dropcap]his week's show is special. We're joined by the anonymous author of And It Was Very Good, a Latter-day Saint book about sex. But this isn't just any book. This is a frank, specific book about sexuality as seen through the lens of Latter-day Saints. But are we comfortable with sexuality as Latter-day Saints? What hurdles do newlyweds face? Does being virtual mean being asexual for too many, thus making sex more difficult in marriage? Is US Latter-day Saint culture less healthy when it comes to sexuality than that found elsewhere? Has the purity movement ruined sex for Mormons? The author has excellent, well-researched insights on sexuality. Tune in! For a FREE pdf copy of the book, send the author an email. Warning: While this is a perfectly acceptable episode discussing sexuality in frank terms, some audiences might find it explicit. Transcript This Week In Mormons: [0:00] Alright folks so here we are with a special week of this week in Mormons where we're going to do a little interview we're going to set the news aside that we usually talk about and instead we're going to talk about sex that's right and then I'm sure most of you were rolling your eyes saying the worst person on Earth, to talk about sex right now is Jeff and you're probably right but here we are this is the hand we've been dealt I'm very excited to talk about this this week though cuz a new book called and it was very good that's essentially an LDS guide to sexuality and I think it's really fascinating and I have the author with me but the author wishes to remain. I know it's it's officially authored by goodly parents should I just call you goodly can I call you googly as a nickname or do you prefer something else. And It Was Very Good: [0:44] I think it's Earthly parent the goodly parents would be nice I think that implies that I'm rich I'm a goodly parents are good if you think that way. This Week In Mormons: [0:51] I'm sorry it's Earthly parents I can call you or can I call you Earth's Earthly parents Anonymous Jim Joe. And It Was Very Good: [0:58] My friends call me EP. This Week In Mormons: [1:00] I'm going to call you Bernie Sanders the house that sound. And It Was Very Good: [1:03] Oh that doesn't sound good how about you pee. This Week In Mormons: [1:06] Epok I call you but if it works we'll do we pee so I imagine EP why don't you want anyone to know who you are it's not like you're an informant on a nightly news program or anything that's so skinny. And It Was Very Good: [1:21] Well, I would be fine with it however I'm married and my wife not so much so this is a book that I wrote and my wife edited for our children but also for the larger Latter-day Saints, public as as we run it but. One of the conditions was she didn't want people at church to be looking at her funny and thinking that they had some kind of insight into our sex life and so I have to remain anonymous and I'm honoring her wishes. This Week In Mormons: [1:53] I mean I guess that's fair having read the book I don't think there's anything that's like rocking the boat too hard there I think the boat I think the book is is it's clear. I think it's a matter of fact but just so you know on my end knowing the very little about your personal life or your ward, I would read it and just assume you're a wise person who has done research and knows what you're talkin about as opposed to someone who was writing about your own sexual preferences for all the sea just so you kn...

 EP 428 – If Only Joseph Had Grammarly | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:07:02

[dropcap]F[/dropcap]resh off his interview with none other than Microsoft founder and benefactor of the eponymous foundation, Bill Gates, nice guy and our resident socialist, Devin Thorpe, joins us for another round of exciting Latter-day Saint news! The Church Newsroom does not understand how Disney works, which is shocking for a facility likely populated with Disney devotees. Why is that, you ask? Well, on last week's show you heard about President Nelson holding a gathering at the appropriately designated Amway Center in Orlando, Florida. However, the Newsroom's coverage makes a reference to the Latter-day leader speaking at "The Happiest Place on Earth." What's the problem with the obvious Disney reference, you ask? "The Happiest Place on Earth" refers to Disneyland in California. Disney World has the nickname of "The Most Magical Place on Earth." Get your facts straight, Newsroom! How are you to be trusted when you commit gaffes of this magnitude? Manti, Utah's Mormon Miracle Pageant is winding down after over 50 years of inspiration and cheap costumes. Why has the Church pulled the plug on its famous pageants? Who's up for a TWiM visit to Hill Cumorah next summer? Manti already has the best temple in the Church that hopefully will retain its charm and peculiarities following a major renovation. Alright, so we know we've spoken at length about the so-called "LDS Millionaire," but this stupid event keeps being stupider, and it shows the worst in us. How is it that 2,500 women have been so reduced and trivialized that they think this is their ticket to love, or at least a fun event? KSL managed to speak with a few of the attendees, who went into detail without violating their non-disclosure agreements. Nothing groundbreaking here, but honestly, the whole affair is just sad. Also, having a net worth of $1 million, while nothing trivial, is not the incredible milestone it once was. Do you own a house in an expensive market? Boom, you have 70-80% of that goal already covered, and you are no different than your neighbors. You guys! Provo is receiving its first Starbucks! The Salt Lake Tribune is trying really hard to make it seem like a story worth being a story, but it's not. However, in an era when caffeinated soda is now sold on BYU's campus, perhaps those sinful hot drinks are inevitable. What's next? Doing lines in the MARB? Jana Riess made herself a nice link-building listicle about 20 changes made by President Nelson "to appeal" to millennials. Devin sagely advises that the changes happen to appeal to millennials, but likely weren't undertaken specifically to capture the millennial market. Anyway, the list is interest, and it sets us off on a discussion about how these have affected our weekly and daily worship.

 EP 427 – Watch All Those Rated R Movies! | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 59:21

[dropcap]T[/dropcap]he Sisters claim it's the "middle" of summer when summer literally starts the day after this podcast is published. That's what having kids does to ya! Crazy children! So let's talk about the so-called "LDS Millionaire" that has cast a pall of love and intensity over Utah. Brought to you by the fools that started "The Mormon Bachelorette" and later sold out to The LDS Matchmaker, this Mormon Millionaire stuff involved a bunch of poor women showing up to an empty red carpet at a random country club, then being presented with a PowerPoint presentation and a creepy silhouette of said millionaire. Who is this man? We may never know. Is he a single millionaire? Multi-millionaire? What are his assets? What are these "millionaire dates" of which they speak? The fine folks at The Beehive have a killer rundown of the entire, stupid affair. Not to be left out, KSL ran some coverage, too, and since the Church owns KSL, we can clearly assume that the Church sanctions this idiotic enterprise. Allegedly, treks are going to be nixed! No more treks! This is anecdotal, of course, but that's the rumor. Yay for rumors! Last week, President Nelson spoke at a large gathering of Latter-day Saints at the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida. (Yes, the Mormons gathered in a facility named after an MLM. It was all apropos.) But aside from the expected uplifting remarks and presence by the best former mission president in the Church (per Geoff), President Nelson also met with the owner of the Pulse nightclub, where a horrific mass shooting occurred in 2016. This was an excellent meeting of minds and hearts. We're straight up confused about this one. Apparently inmates in the United Kingdom pretend to be Mormons in order to get hot chocolate? Uh... This is from the Daily Star, so... yeah... But... Hey! So the Oakland California Temple was finally rededicated after a multi-year renovation. But you know what else happens at the Oakland temple? Quinceañear photos! Yes, the famed California landmark is wildly popular with the Hispanic teen community when it comes to celebrating the special day. Of course, the Church now kindly asks that the limos park off site. VidAngel. We love what VidAngel does, but there's no denying that its previous business model was legally suspect. A judge ruled as such in the spring, and now a jury has handed down a hefty fine - over $62 million - to the plucky streaming startup. Is this the end? Hey, so Manti's Mormon Miracle pageant is drawing to a close,

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