Summary: Ben and Don start the episode on song podcasts, movie reviews and Eagles' songs in popular media. They go on to talk about leadership camps but quickly get into food safety stuff around evaluation of intervention and education programs (and the lack of data existing in the literature related to actual reductions in illness). They talk about some big data sources and indicators of food safety success. The guys do a do a deep dive on the recent CDC FoodNet data and the impacts of the pandemic on foodborne illness data. The conversation takes a quick detour into music, and then heads to crowd sourcing illnesses and follow-up on a food safety Reddit thread. The show ends on zero tolerance with Listeria monocytogenes associated with different types of foods.
