Summary: Don and Ben are joined by a special guest Michelle Forman, Manager of Media for the Association of Public Health Laboratories (APHL). The discussion starts with the impacts of closing a toilet lid and whether keeping toothbrushes in the bathroom is a good idea for avoiding pathogens. The conversation goes to APHL's role in the food safety community, communicating risks and how COVID has revealed trust in science issues, the challenges in communicating risk reduction and the importance of storytelling. The conversation goes to a Listeria-triggered recall of muffins and communication challenges. Michelle, Don and Ben end the show talking about recalls, a new STOP Foodborne Illness-led document to improve the system and the network of groups that influence recalls.
