Summary: It seems there are some words “holy people” aren’t allowed to say. Often times, words related to mental illness fall into that category. For some reason, stigmas have developed around words like “depression” or “counseling,” and the idea in some religious circles is that if you flirt with such words, if you own them as part of your story, then you don’t have enough faith; you’re more broken than the rest of us. It’s time for that to change. With one in five Americans suffering from some sort of mental illness, we need to be real about how those diseases affect our lives. Today, I’m talking with a couple of brave ministers who are doing just that. First up is Dr. H. Mac Wallace, a licensed therapist and my professor of pastoral care from Campbell University Divinity School. Dr. Wallace is going to give us a basic understanding of depression and its prevalence in ministry. Then, we’ll hear from my friend Rev. John Carroll, the pastor of First Baptist Church in Danville, VA, who not only has some first hand experience with depression, but who has also been vulnerable in sharing about that experience with his congregation. Theme Music:"Careless Whistle" by AudioQuattro Other Sounds in This Episode:"Wishing Well Wheel" by Podington Bear
