Summary: Jonathan is stuck in the library in DC, and Nas and Sam and Jonny in London are all swamped, so we decided to play you an episode of one of our favourite podcasts while we work on more Gender Knot material for you for next week onwards. The Ministry of Ideas is a podcast about the ideas that shape our world, and is from Harvard Divinity School. Their episode ‘White Balance’ looks at how understanding race in American also requires understanding its relationship to class. It’s a compelling and deeply moving episode and features the poet and writer Dr Joshua Bennett, and the author of the book ‘White Trash’, Nancy Isenberg. We’ll be back next week and have episodes coming up on men’s groups (a follow up), how women can negotiate for better pay, and male shame. **Guest podcast episode:** [Ministry of Ideas](https://www.ministryofideas.org/) podcast from Harvard Divinity School, episode: [White Balance](https://www.ministryofideas.org/episodes/white-balance), hosted by [Zachary Davis](https://twitter.com/zacharysdavis) **The Gender Knot - Host and producer:** [Nas](https://twitter.com/NTavakoliFar) aka Nastaran Tavakoli-Far **Co-host:** [Jonathan Freeman](https://twitter.com/jfonir) **Co-producers:** Sam Baker and Jonathan Blackwell **Additional links:** The Gender Knot [t-shirts available her](https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-gender-knot)e – support the podcast, buy a shirt, spread the word! Nas’ recent BBC documentary on male friendships: [The Why Factor Male Friendships](https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswrk7) [The Gender Knot podcast](https://www.thegenderknot.com/) and [Facebook Group](https://www.facebook.com/groups/182851532302085/) and contact us at thegenderknot@gmail.com **Music:** Government Funded Weed by Black Ant (used under Creative Commons)
