Summary: <p>You are about to meet somebody I have been following for a good long while. I find Jeff very interesting. He is smart. He is funny. He is irreverant. He is funny and clever.</p><br> <p>He is also very much not afraid to speak truth to power. </p><br> <p>That is what makes this episode so interesting and fun.</p><br> <p>Listen to this podcast.</p><br> <p>Best Safety Podcast, Safety Program, Safety Storytelling, Investigations, Human Performance, Safety Differently, Operational Excellence, Resilience Engineering, Safety and Resilience Incentives</p><br> <p>Give this a listen.</p><br> <p>Thanks for listening and tell your friends. See you in the kangaroo kourt, someplace.</p>