Summary: <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Panelists: </b></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://twitter.com/jessitron"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jessica Kerr</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">| </span><a href="https://twitter.com/geeksam"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sam Livingston-Gray</span></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Guest Starring:</b></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Soo Choi: </span><a href="https://twitter.com/soosiechoi"><span style="font-weight: 400;">@soosiechoi</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> | </span><a href="https://devops-research.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">DORA</span></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Show Notes:</b></p> <p><b>00:16 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Welcome to “The Venn Diagram Podcast. It’s a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but it’s definitely not that other thing.” …we mean, “Greater Than Code!”</span></p> <p><b>01:09</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> – Soo’s Background at NASA and Superpower</span></p> <p><b>06:01 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Wanting Attending Conferences and Speaking and then When Speaking at Conferences Goes Wrong</span></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRDZIMKJwUg&t=7s"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Soo Choi: Changing Diversity Constructs: My Journey as a Woman in DevOps @ DevOpsDays D.C. 2017</span></a></p> <p><b>16:10 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Creating Safe Spaces: From Conferences to Workspaces</span></p> <p><b>21:29 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Allies and Advocacy; Talking Salary</span></p> <p><b>24:12 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Safe Spaces vs Safer Spaces</span></p> <p><b>28:16 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Forgiving People Without Labeling Them (i.e. Sexist, Racist, etc.)</span></p> <p><b>38:28 </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">– Having “Fierce Conversations” and Collecting Better Tools</span></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.thagomizer.com/blog/2017/09/29/we-don-t-do-that-here.html"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Aja Hammerly: We Don’t Do That Here</span></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Reflections:</b></p> <p><b>Soo: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sharing experiences in open and safer spaces.</span></p> <p><b>Sam:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Listening to each other’s experiences. Sit with cognitive dissonance, be okay with it, and see what it has to teach us.</span></p> <p><b>Jessica: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">Learning from other’s experiences.</span></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Want to help make us a weekly show, buy and ship you swag,<br> </b><b style="font-size: 1.8rem;">and bring us to conferences near you?<br> </b><b>Support us via </b><a href="https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode"><b>Patreon</b></a><b>!</b></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Or tell your organization to send sponsorship inquiries to </b><a href="mailto:mandy@greaterthancode.com"><b>mandy@greaterthancode.com</b></a><b>.</b></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Are you Greater Than Code?</b><b><br> </b><b>Submit guest blog posts to </b><a href="mailto:mandy@greaterthancode.com"><b>mandy@greaterthancode.com</b></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><b>Please leave us a review on iTunes!</b></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Transcript:</strong></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>SAM:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Hello and welcome to Episode 51 of ‘The Venn Diagram Podcast. It’s a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but it’s definitely not that other thing.’ I’m Sam Livingston-Gray and it’s just my profound joy to be here with my fellow panelists, Jessica Kerr.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1"><b>JESSICA:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thank you, Sam and I am thrilled to be on this excellent podcast, whic</span></p>
