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Why do we produce so much content, and so many websites and apps, that people don't want or need? We take a look at the problem of bloat that so many information rich (non-transactional) sites have. How did our sites end up this fat and irrelevant? ...

We meet up with Mattias Beijmo, founder of Duma and course leader for Web Management at Berghs School of Communication for a chat about beards. After the facial hair chat out of the way we ask Mattias how, back in the 90s, he got into the web branch. We then dive into our main topic - Social media analytics. How to take social media beyond the "we've got to be there!" stage. Mattias talks to us about the quantitative side of measuring social media and how to control the user experience in social media despite so much of the UX being out of your direct control. (Listeing time 36 minutes) https://soundcloud.com/uxpodcast/58-james-per-mattias-have https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/391097218687852545 References: Remix Culture: Rethinking What We Call Original Content Metcalfe's Law A refutation of Metcalfe's Law by Andrew Odlyzko and Benjamin Tilly(PDF) Video seminars featuring Mattias Jimmy Hendrix playing guitar with his teeth  

Episode 57 of UX Podcast is a link show. James and Per discuss three articles found during their digital travels. We start off with some satire and discuss a humorous article about top carousels, a conversation that evolves into a reflective discussion about culture and native languages. The middle article focuses on navigation design patterns for responsive sites and apps - specifically the "left navigation fly out". We finish off with a look at a post by Luke Wroblewski about how you should avoid using a spinner to indicate when something is happening or loading. (Listening time: 34 minutes) https://soundcloud.com/uxpodcast/57-james-per-avoid-spinning https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/386011590392578048 References: Article 1: Carousel-based web design Duty calls (xkcd cartoon) Article 2: Stop placing the menu button in the wrong corner James & Per set design trends (Episode 33, hamburger menu discussion) Article 3: Mobile design details: Avoid the spinner Bayblade photo credit: CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 Tom Rafferty Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to UX Podcast. You’re listening to me Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: And we’re sitting in our favourite place at the Clarion Sign Hotel. James: Our favourite place? Per: Favourite place in town for recording. James: You’re right. Per: I think right now. Yeah. James: And they actually just tweeted to us. Per: Yes, it’s fantastic. We say we were going to record here and they tweeted us and said good luck. James: Yeah. See, some people have got their eyes peeled for customer interaction. Per: They’re pretty good. James: And today is going to be … Per: A link show. View the full transcript James: A link show - to dive straight into what we’re going to do today. We haven’t had a link show for a little while because we’ve had Conversion Jam and a few interviews and things. It felt like I want to talk about some of the great content that people produce out there. Per: We want to hear some of our own voices more as well. James: Oh, your ego Per. We were just discussing. We got three articles coming for you and it’s a bit of a design pattern thing to these three. We were just trying to decide a little bit on running order - because we do actually plan a little bit before these shows. I was bringing up the fact – the article that we are going to talk about first … Per: Is now ... James: Yeah, it’s a little bit humorous and Per suggested, it was good idea to finish on a humorous note. Per: Peak end theory. James: Yeah. Per: Yeah. James: And I said, “Well, maybe it’s good to begin with a humorous one.” Are we trying to keep listeners to the next show or are we trying to keep them to listen to this show? So if we make you all laugh now at the beginning, then maybe you’re more likely to listen to the whole show and if you laugh at the end, you will maybe like listen to us next time. Per: Right. So if you seriously believe that we’re going to lose or gain listeners based on the running order of our links in this show, then give us a heads up. James: I like to think that we have some content strategy for this. So the first article. Per: The first article. [Music] James: Which touches on one of my favourite pet subjects, carousels, banners, sliding banners on the webpages which all of you who listen to the show regularly will know that we’ve talked about a few times and you will probably also know what we think about them, which is not very much. An article – I think you actually brought this one to my attention. Per: Yeah, because I thought of you straight away when I saw it, of course. James: It’s excellent. It’s actually a satire piece. It’s humour. It’s written to take the mickey out of carousels and the way in which we end up having carousels on websites. Per: Right. It’s written by a guy called Stephen Hay from California but he lives in the Netherlands actually and well,

Conversion Jam 3 was held recently here in Stockholm. Conversion Jam is a conference for online marketing/ecommerce managers, optimizers and analysts. About 350 people gathered together to spend a day listening to international speakers and a number of interesting cases. We managed to interview four of the speakers - Craig Sullivan, Ton Wesseling, Brian Massey and Nathalie Nahai. In addition to the conference, UX Podcast also took part in a "pre-jam" meetup the night before with around 40 guests, 3 presentations and a "conversion clinic. The introduction to this show was recorded live at the Pre-jam. You can watch the full stream of that evening here featuring Brian Massey, Ton Wesseling and Bart Schutz (and a guest appearance by Craig Sullivan). This show is filled with optimisation advice, tips and stories that are useful for anyone working with digital media. We cover amongst other things - analytics, content strategy, experimentation, culture and behavioural psychology. (Listening time 65 minutes) https://soundcloud.com/uxpodcast/56-james-per-at-conversion-jam https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/381033951277879296 References: Video of the Pre-jam meetup at Valtech Craig Sullivan interview Episode 26 - James and Per make Jam (Interview with Craig Sullivan from Conversion Jam 2) Episode 11 - James and Per optimise and die (Interview with Craig Sullivan from May 2012) Ton Wesserling interview Brian Massey interview Your Customer Creation Equation by Brain Massey Nathalie Nahai interview The Webs of Influence by Nathalie Nahai The Cost of Culture (James's blog post) UX Podcast coverage from Conversion Jam 2 The 5 international speakers at Conversion Jam 3. André, Brian, Nathalie, Ton and Craig. Thanks to all our guests and to Conversionista and Valtech for help make this episode come together.  

On Obama-day here in Stockholm we were joined by Stephen Early, owner of Individual Pubs in the UK and, earlier this year, became the first pubs in the UK to offer Bitcoin as a payment option. We talk to Steve about why he decided to start offering Bitcoin payments, how the user experience is for everyone involved (Steve, staff & punters) as well as what makes a successful payment system. How can you beat the simplicity of cash? (Listening time: 50 minutes) https://soundcloud.com/uxpodcast/55-james-per-steve-buy-beer https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/375941741859598336 References: Daniel Pugh, DanLoFi Bitcoin buys you beer in Cambridge pubs Bitcoin Cryptocurrency Bitcoins at Individual Pubs Per's payment services presentation (in Swedish, video and slides) Photograph of Stephen, James Mossahebi/Wired/CC BY 3.0 Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to episode 55 of UX Podcast. You’re listening to me Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: It’s Obama Day. James: It’s Obama Day. “What’s that?” you all ask. Is it international? Do we all celebrate it? Per: Wow. James: Do we put Obama-masks on and run around and pretend to be the presidents of the United States of America? Per: No. Barack Obama, the president of the United States is now in Sweden, in Stockholm. Now he has just arrived from the airport I think. James: Yeah, about an hour ago. View the full transcript Per: Yeah. James: Now for the American listeners out there, this is probably very interesting because what happens when the president of the United States comes to your city as we found out today is they close your city down basically. Per: Yes, everything is closed. I mean it would have been impossible for me to like take the car or the bike into town today. James: Yeah. The shops and everything are open of course, we don’t mean like that but they’ve closed off a huge amount of roads in town, all the way to town and that and airports and things just so the president and all these hundreds of people can … Per: Right. So I do believe a lot of people in Stockholm are actually working from home today. James: Looking at the traffic this morning, then yes. Per: And the few people sitting outside. We’re sat in a hotel lobby near Medborgarplatsen if anyone should know where that is. James: I actually biked here. Per: Oh, yeah. How very fit you are. James: Oh, well no, but I just live this side of the road. It wasn’t too much effort. Per: And I hope the sound – well, the surrounding sound is pretty OK I can think. We’re testing the new Zoom H6 for sound as well. James: Oh, you can write about that on our kit page. Per: Yes. Finally I think I’m actually satisfied with this kit we’re using so I’m going to write about it on our blog. James: Well, today is episode 55. Per: Yes, it is. James: And we are going to talk about bitcoin. Well actually, we’re going to talk a little bit about payments and the user experience of payments and ease of payments and when you want to buy something. You did a talk last week… Per: Yes, I did for politicians and organizations and like municipalities in another part of Sweden actually and diving into that subject of payment systems, I realized that this is going off the charts, the number of different payment systems we have, what’s happening. You think they’re making them more useful. You would assume them to be making them more useful but like paying for parking, we talked about that previously. James: It’s so irritating at times. Per: It’s insane. James: It doesn’t work when you check out unfortunately for me earlier in the week and ended up making three phone calls. Per: So I’ve gone back to cash for paying parking because I pay in seconds but it takes minutes if you pay with cards. James: That’s exactly what I felt on Monday when I had that problem with that payment. The car park machine and I was thinking,

A Link show. James and Per discuss three articles found during their digital travels. We begin by talking about Deception and when does persuasive design become evil? Ethnographical research gets a run-through - too achedemic, or value for money? Finally we tackle the question: should designers code? Do we become pegasuses or unicorns? (Listening time: 38 minutes) References: How Deceptive Is Your Persuasive Design? UX Podcast Episode 39 with Jesper Åström Making the Most of Ethnographic Research Gorilla Research video from UXLx 2011 Unicorn, Shmunicorn - be a pegasus “Designers shouldn’t code” is the wrong answer to the right question A pink unicorn: https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/370823566293729280 Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to episode 54 of UX Podcast. You’re listening to me, Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: And you will notice I did not scream hello. James: No, you didn’t. We practiced before the show. Per: Yeah. Well, I was thinking about it real hard now. James:  You were. Per: It is really difficult not to say hello loud because I’m so excited every time we record something. James: Yeah, we’re so happy to be here. Per: Lovely day in Stockholm. It’s a bit colder now going into August and I haven’t slept really well actually so I’m really tired this morning. I hope you will do most of the talking James. James: As long as you’re not grumpy. Per: I’m never grumpy. James: Never grumpy? Per: No. James: No. Per: I may slur and not talk very coherently but never, never, ever grumpy. James: As far as kind of like building up buy-in for this episode, you’re doing a fantastic job there Per. Per: Really? Aren’t I? What are we talking about today James? James: Oh, well. Today is a link show. View the full transcript Per: Yes, finally! We haven’t done one in a while. James: We haven’t done for a while. No, we’ve been quite wound up about certain topics. We’ve had a few topic shows and a few interviews including Brad Frost who’s in Sweden at the moment. Per: Oh, yeah. James: At this very moment. Not here with us. Unfortunately Per: Right. He’s in Malmö. James: Now, he is. Yeah. Also we’ve decided to throw together a link show. So we’ve got three links, articles to talk about today that we’ve found during our digital travels. Per: Right. James: As they are normally right? Per: And we don’t agree with any of them apparently. James: It would appear from our little chat this morning that we don’t agree. Per: We are really hard to please. James: Today we seem to be. See, see grumpy old men who haven’t slept. There we go. So which one is first? Per: Let’s start off with deception. [Music] James: This is How Deceptive Is Your Persuasive Design. Per: Yeah, it’s an article by Chris Nodder on the UX Magazine and you know how we design stuff and we have gotten into the habit of realizing that we need to use all these psychological tactics and techniques for persuading people and we’ve in recent episodes talked about social proof and scarcity and all these different things. James: And behavioural psychology. Per: Yeah, peak-end theory and sometimes we get into the, well, insight that perhaps we’re not just persuading people. We’re also deceiving them and this is more notably in the field of ecommerce which neither you nor I really work with a lot James. But if you’re in ecommerce and you’re trying to get people to buy stuff then you want to get people to buy as much stuff as possible because you used all these techniques and I think … James: There’s a business drive there that the business themselves want to convert everybody into customers. Per: Right. James: By and large. Per: And I think the hotel business is really good at this. Hotels.com, I mean you can find so many examples right there. There are not many rooms left.

James and Per are both fans of quantified self. In this show we take a look at what quantified self and life logging are. We chat about some of the potential benefits plus some of the challenges that surface from a UX and user perspective. Is quantifie...

Inspired by a question Bruno Figueiredo posted to Facebook, James and Per try to answer the question - How do you decide what resolution to design for? We talk about screen resolutions, viewports, typography, whitespace, languages, statistics. To finish off, we even try to provide an answer to the question... (Listening time 44 minutes) https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/361744259273072641 References: Bruno's question on Facebook Life beyond 960 Screens are getting bigger, but no the browser viewport The length of CSS (units of measurement) Realtime face-tracking responsive typography demo Logical breakpoints for your responsive design (Languages & line lengths) The Art of Explanation by Lee LeFever Australian weather and the seasons James's whiteboard showing a 6-step answer to the show's question: Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to episode 52 of the UX Podcast. You’re listening to me Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: And we’re set –  what date is it? James: Eighteenth. Per: Eighteenth of July, Thursday. I’m recording this a week ahead because you’re going to Spain. James: I am. Per: Yeah. James: On Monday and well, I’ve bottled it. We recorded one episode when you were in America but to be honest, I just got excited about the fact we could use our new microphones. Per: Right, new microphones, condenser microphones hooked up to Blue Icicle. So you will have to let us know on Twitter if this sounds better than usual. I really hope so. James: I just couldn’t bear the fact that you would be recording using these new microphones and I would be using Skype on my tablet from a little apartment somewhere in the south of Spain. Per: You want to sound as good as I do. James: Yeah. View the full transcript Per: OK. We’re fully dressed. James: Yeah, hold on. You’re making me very confused now. So we’ve been here for an hour and you said, “And now we’re fully dressed.” Per: Don’t go there. You’re always confusing the listener. I was going to explain one of the fun things about doing a podcast is you don’t really have to take a shower but people don’t really care what you look like or smell like because you only had to listen to our voices, our beautiful voices. When we decided to do this – we just decided yesterday. You made a joke that when it’s coming over here early, that you wouldn’t be fully dressed probably. James: I said that you were scared of Jimbo flesh. Per: Yes. Thankfully you were dressed when I came over here. You hadn’t had breakfast yet. James: No, I hadn’t. Per: Oh, well. James: Sorry, I’m fully of food now. I’m dressed. Per: Yes. James: Everyone is dressed. To calm you all down, we’re all dressed. Per: But it is really hot and it’s getting hotter in here. James: Yeah. People who have been listening to this show for a long time will know that the – well Beantin HQ, the studio where we record this, during the summer months, it does get warm in here but we’re only up to 24 degrees. Per: And we have entertainment because just outside our window there are bouncing kids. Well, two right now but … James: It’s just two but not the same two as it was a second ago, the trampoline in the garden, which we can see from the studio window. Per: Which also is a good test of the soundproofness of your studio and the quality of our microphones. James: Yeah, and the loudness of my kids. Per: Yes. James: It’s not going to go well, is it? So what are we talking about today? Per: Well, I think it was last Friday. Bruno Figueiredo, you will know him from UX Lx, the curator of the UX Lx Conference. James: And we talked to him in one of our … Per: Yes, we did on the first conference show. He posted on Facebook about screen sizes and he was looking at statistics and seeing that with the 1440 pixels is becoming more and more common, 1440 and wider and the general question was,

We're joined in Episode 51 by mobile web strategist and front-end designer Brad Frost. Brad's blog posts have featured in a number of UX Podcast link shows, and he's a bit of an ideological soul-mate of James and Per. We talk about breaking down sil...

Separated by a hundred million square kilometres of Atlantic Ocean, James and Per bring you a link show featuring three articles we've found during our digital travels. We start, as the article itself prescribes, by discussing content, words in particular. We then dovetail into Atomic Design and using chemistry as a conceptual metaphor for web design. Finally we look at persuasion profiling and how the psychology of persuasion could be used in our work with websites. (Listening time: 32 minutes) https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/350535970858336256 https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/350630620025720834 References: Words by Justin Jackson Story about a squirrel Atomic Design by Brad Frost Pattern Lab Persuasion profiling: The next big thing in conversion optimization? by Michael Straker Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to episode 50 of UX Podcast. You’re listening to me, Per Axbom.  James: And me, James Royal-Lawson. Fifty episodes!  Per: Fifty episodes.  James: Fifty.  Per: Yes.  James: Oh, 50 episodes. View the full transcript  Per: And to celebrate, I’m in the country of 50 states. In our efforts to actually produce this show during the summer as well and we find ourselves in different locations. So I’m set …  James: Really different locations.  Per: Really different locations. I just woke up actually. I’m up north in Michigan in a town called Charlevoix or Charlevoix if you speak French but Charlevoix in American English, in a quaint little hotel and I just sent my family to breakfast. I’ve been vacationing now for a week and a half up here. So I’ve been having fun. It has been really, really hot. It has been like 30 degrees Celsius, in the 80s if you’re speaking Fahrenheit and been having a good time and then James reminded me via Facebook we have to record the show and here we are. James: I’ve kind of grabbed you now. You must be a week and a half into your holiday. Your brain must be like jelly because your body starts relaxing right now in hot temperatures, taking it easy and not working and things. So it’s going to be a real struggle getting anything useful out of you today. Per: Do you think? James: We will see. Per: There’s no difference from my voice. But you haven’t left from vacation yet, have you? James: No, I’m really busy today. I’ve got a deadline in two and a bit hours. Yeah. So I’ve been frantically producing a document. I’m actually trying to design a model for measuring usability. We can actually do a whole podcast about that. Oo, now there's an idea. Per: Excellent. James: I mean model for measuring usability in a very limited number of hours based on stuff that already exists. Per: Yeah, designing the model. Then actually using the model and writing up the report. James: Frankly, I’m not – this particular model, I’m not using it and writing it up. Per: Oh, OK. James: Someone else will have the joy of doing that. Per: Oh, excellent. James: But as for me, it’s nearly 3 o’clock in the afternoon. I’ve been at this now for – actually I’ve been at this for like seven hours. Might as well just … Per: You’re probably actually – I went to bed quite late so you were probably waking up when I went to bed. James: Probably. So my brain is probably nearly as much jelly-like as yours but for a completely different reason. Per: Oh, wow. James: Anyhow, yeah, so today though we’ve got a link show. Per: Yeah, to make it a bit easier on ourselves. James: Yeah, not subjecting a third person to this time zone mayhem. The link shows means for those who don’t know is when we take –well, in this case, three articles that we found during our digital travels and talk about them a little bit. Per: Yeah. And I think the theme of today is sort of going back to basics. I love it. James: Oh, yeah. I like the way that these three articles interconnect and interplay. It’s quite a nice little threesome. Did I just say that? Per: Yes, you did just say that. Oh my god.

On the back of the NSA Prism revelations, we're joined by Pär Lannerö to talk about internet privacy and the complicated world of terms and conditions. How can we make them more simple and manageable? How can we tip the balance back in favour of the individual? Unknown to us, Per's microphone was broken. So at some points we've had to rely on the sound picked up by James and Pär's microphones. Sorry about that! (Listening time: 45 minutes) https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/345433544924999680 References: TOSDR Common Terms Docracy TOSBack 500px Terms of Service Mailchimp Terms of Use Mark Zuckerberg’s Sister Complains Of Facebook Privacy Breach Browse wrap Clickwrap 7,500 Online Shoppers Unknowingly Sold Their Souls Conversion Jam 3, use the code UXPODCAST for a 200kr discount Transcript:  Per: Hello and welcome to episode 49 of UX Podcast. You’re listening to Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: And today it’s a lovely weather outside actually. James: It is. Per: We’re set in the Swedish Post and Telecom Authority Office because we have a guest today. View the full transcript James: Not because we’ve just broken in or … Per: No. You might think that. We’re actually three consultants sitting here in like a cafeteria or a sofa area. James: Yeah. Per: And James, what’s the topic we were going to talk about today? James: We’re not going to tell you. Per: Oh, OK. James: That was terrible. That was really bad. Privacy. Per: OK. James: A little bit kind of inspired by the whole PRISM disclosure just last week. The American government has been prying on all our things and what we say and what we do and emails and everything. Per: So the PRISM surveillance program. James: Yeah. Per: That we really don’t know a lot about. James: Well, we’re not completely sure about everything. A lot of rumours and as usual, these kinds of things, a lot of rumours and speculation but it … Per: Yeah. You have the idea that we should bring in the guest because we don’t know a lot about this stuff. James: Well, it’s not our ... Per: We immediately thought of somebody who had – on our list for a while now, Pär Lannerö who sometimes tweets about privacy issues and so you’re quite active in this discussion as well and you’re Plannero on Twitter and I always thought that had something to do with you being a planner or something and then I realized, “Oh my god! No, it’s his name.” So welcome to the show Pär. Pär: Thank you very much. Per: I imagine you’re a consultant as well. Pär: Yes. Per: And you founded it and you’re a consultant for a company called MetaMatrix. Pär: That’s true. Per: So tell us a bit about what type of work you do. Pär: Well, I’ve been an internet consultant for the last 14 years, I think, since we founded the company. I’m doing 14 years of internet work. You get to try out lots of different things. So I’ve been a teacher. I’ve been a programmer. I’ve been writing market surveys and doing user studies and all kinds of things. But everything has been circling around the web and recently it has been a bit more about privacy and especially about contracts on the web. Per: OK. Pär: You know, the documents that you never read, the terms of service and the privacy policy. James: You just click and go, “Yeah! I’ll have that.” Pär: Yeah. Somebody said there are two human constructions that can be seen from outer space. Do you know which ones? Per: Well, the Wall of China I’m going to guess. Yeah, yeah. Pär: That’s one of them. The other one is the terms of service of some website because it’s so long. Per: Excellent. So I mean that’s usually a common usability issue that we talk about is having to click in that box and saying that you agreed to the terms and I watch people do this and I see them never ever reading this stuff. Then all of a sudden, somebody comes out and well,

After returning from Intranätverk, an intranet conference recently held in Sweden, James shares some reflections. We also talk about user centered design for the digital workplace and how intranets are the "poorer brother" of the world of web. Has the world of intranets finally started to catch up? (Listening time: 38 minutes) https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/340375529666523136 https://twitter.com/jeffhorne/status/341661720932122624 References Intranätverk, intranet conference in Gothernburg Sweden. Jonas Söderström How we organise the digital workplace at IKEA (presentation) "Listen carefully to users" (Tweet) "No user research until recently" (Tweet) Applying UCD to intranet projects (presentation) "Everyone just logs in and put some update" (IKEA Employee on the future digital workplace) "Show awareness and understanding" (Linda Tinnert,  IKEA) Transcript: Per: Hello and welcome to episode 48 of UX Podcast. You’re listening to me, Per Axbom. James: And me James Royal-Lawson. Per: And we’re doing this episode over Skype. James: Yeah. Per: This morning my bike, my motorbike wouldn’t start and I thought, “OK. I will just take the car,” and the garage door wouldn’t open. The tag – there was something wrong with the tag. So it has just been a crazy morning. View the full transcript James: I know. For me as well because we’re doing this about 40 minutes later than we booked or planned. Per: Yeah. James: And I was just about – I’ve got guests here so I can’t do – I can’t record it from a normal office, in the office. Per: Yeah. James: I was just about to go down and set everything up and I heard my neighbour talking to me, calling me. OK. It’s very unusual that the neighbour starts talking to me at 9 o’clock in the morning because we’re all so busy. We’re doing our morning routines and things. Per: Yeah. James: What he had done was he had waved – he tried to kind of wave a wasp away when he was getting into his car and he kind of did that with his hands that he had his house keys in. He managed to fling his house keys. Per: No way. James: Into my garden just after he has locked the car or before he got into his car – he locked his house but he now went to his car. So he had to come around and me and him, we’re going through my meadow of dandelions that’s outside of the house searching for his keys. So that delayed me by about 10 minutes as well. We found them. Per: OK. Cool, good. James: Bizarre morning though ... Per: Very weird morning. James: Yeah. Per: Let’s look back – before we start, we were talking about intranet today. But let’s look back at the event episodes we did for UX Lx. We got some feedback. James: Yeah, we did a few episodes. Per: And we got some feedback partly about the intro because we do a lot of episodes – I don’t know. How many did we do? Six or seven? James: Seven because we did a pre-episode as well. Per: Right. And you have to listen to the intro every time you listen and we do two a day and you have to listen to the intro over and over again and the feedback we got was that maybe we could shorten it. James: Yeah, it’s about one minute, fifteen? Per: Yeah, and we realized that probably is pretty long for any episode. James: Probably, yeah. So we’re – I’ve chatted to Dan Pugh, or Dan Lo-Fi. He’s the guy who composed and created the theme tune for us. I’ve chatted with him and he says he’s going to do a 45-second version. Per: Excellent. James: Which I think is a good compromise. Per: Yes. James: We’re going to try. We’re going to iterate you see. We’re going to iterate and try. Per: Yeah. James: Yeah. But if you got any more feedback because I – we both like to know what you think of the event format. When we go to these events and do seven episodes, quick succession from the actual – than itself, do you like it? Is it good? Is it interesting?

That's it. it's all over. Time to board the aeroplane and head back to Stockholm. It's been a fun and intensive 3 days of conferencing, including 6 podcasts recorded on location. In this final show from UXLx we chat a bit about the conference day yesterday and also look back on the conference as a whole. (Listening time 16 minutes)  

In the bar of the Tryp Oriente at the end of day 2 of  UXLx 2013 we settle down with a  beer and reflect on the conference so far together with Chris McCann. What themes have we noticed? how were the 4th workshops? and how did Per's Eliminate Design lightning talk go down? (Listening time 23 minutes) References: UX Podcast Episode 6: There's a disturbence in the force Slides from Per's lightning talk: Eliminate design Slides from Giles Collborne's workshop: Advanced Simplicity

It's just before lunch on day 2 of UXLx 2013 and we were lucky enough to grab a few minutes of Luke Wroblewski's time right after his morning workshop Organizing Mobile Web Experiences. We chat about device proliferation, device ergonomics and some of the other challenges heading our way. (Listening time 13 minutes) References: Luke's presentaton: Organizing mobile web experiences