Javascript Jabber

Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Ariya Hidayat (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 00:48 - David Herman and Ariya Hidayat Introduction 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 023 JSJ Phantom.js with Ariya Hidayat 01:54 - Parsing JavaScript and ASTs and Language Grammars 04:44 - Semantics 06:08 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Esprima: Parser SpiderMonkey 10:37 - Lexer 12:16 - Writing your own language creationix / jack The C Programming Language 17:41 - Parser Generators JavaScriptCore 21:04 - Evolving a Syntax Automatic Semicolon Insertion Post correspondence problem Halting problem 28:05 - Language Design The Rust Programming Language 30:35 - Grammar Regular Expressions (Regex) Backus–Naur Form (BNF) Recursion How to Design Programs (HTDP) 38:00 - Recursive Descent Parsers 42:48 - Benefits of knowing language internals and syntax Apache Lucene - Apache Lucene Core LPeg - Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua 48:48 - Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) Picks Mass Effect 3 (Joe) A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior | Coursera (Joe) Go write a programming language to learn one (Tim) Thumbs and Ammo (Jamison) ISM by Savant (Jamison) Vimcasts (Jamison) The iPhreaks Show (Chuck) Mozy (Chuck) Tech & Go Bright Pink Micro USB Cable (David) asm.js (David) Beyond Office Politics: The Hidden Story of Power, Affiliation & Achievement in the Workplace by Linda Sommer (Ariya) gotwarlost / istanbul (Ariya) Next Week Web Developer Skills Transcript JAMISON:  I am Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux, Linix. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 54 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Tim Caswell. TIM:  Hello. CHUCK:  Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hi guys. CHUCK:  Joe Eames. JOE:  Hey there. CHUCK:  Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  Hey guys, what’s up? CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And we have two special guests this week. We have Dave Herman. DAVID:  Hey there. CHUCK:  Ariya Hidayat. ARIYA:  Hello everyone. CHUCK:  And these guys are so smart that we brought them back. So, if you’re interested, we’ll put links to the episodes that they were on. David was on when we talked about his book ‘Essential JavaScript’ and Ariya was on when we talked about PhantomJS. JAMISON:  Effective JavaScript. CHUCK:  Effective? What did I say? MERRICK:  Essential. CHUCK:  Essential? Well, it’s an essential book on Effective JavaScript. How’s that? [Laughter] MERRICK:  Good save. DAVID:  At least, you didn’t say Defective JavaScript. [Laughter] CHUCK:  No, that’s what I write. I’m really good at writing defective JavaScript. ARIYA:  Actually, there’s a book about Essential on Defective JavaScript. CHUCK:  I also want to announce really quickly that Fluent Conf has given us a discount code. So, if you want to get 20% off on your registration for Fluent Conf, just enter JAVAJAB and you’ll get 20% off when you register for Fluent Conf. Alright. Well, let’s get started. This is going to be a really, really interesting topic and it’s something that I’ve wanted to know more about for a long time. And I just haven’t delved as deeply into it as I would like to. And that is,

Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 02:48 - External Conflicts Dealing with people outside your own team 07:04 - Areas of Expertise 08:45 - Expectations and Deadlines Multiple Layers of Hierarchy Differences in Goals 13:47 - Flatter Structure Approach 15:21 - The Search for Developers Finding the ideal people What makes an ‘A Player’? Intellectual Capability 19:47 - Team Scaling/ Scaling Agile Scaling Agile @ Spotify How Stripe Builds Software, with Greg Brockman 25:10 - Team Diversity 29:57 - Team Dynamics Attitude Different: Escaping the Competitive Herd by Youngme Moon (Joe) 35:00 - Specialization 40:08 - Dealing with someone you don’t like Circumventing Confrontation 50:52 - Dealing with a non-engaged person Picks Honest and open conversations (Merrick) Noah Gundersen (Merrick) Oz the Great and Powerful (Joe) Different: Escaping the Competitive Herd by Youngme Moon (Joe) The Gifts of Imperfection: Let Go of Who You Think You’re Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are by Brené Brown (Joe) King of Tokyo (Joe) AngularJS (Joe) Kiki's Delivery Service (Jamison) Local 0.2.2 (Jamison) Ciaran Jessup (AJ) Psych Season 7 (AJ) Google+ Hangouts (AJ) ScreenFlow (AJ) Jing (Chuck) Transmit (Chuck) Next Week JavaScript Parsing, ASTs, and Language Grammar w/ David Herman and Ariya Hidayat Transcript CHUCK:  So, team dynamics this week? JOE:  Sorry, is that our discussion or is that what we decided to call ourselves? [Laughter] CHUCK:  It’s our discussion topic this week. AJ:  We are Team Dynamics. JOE:  Because if we’re going with names, I would like to submit the Wolverines. CHUCK:  The Wolverines? I think it’s taken by a University around here. AJ:  Yeah, and my high school back in Virginia, and that dude from New Zealand who plays in X-Men. CHUCK:  That dude? AJ:  Yeah, that dude, Hugh Jackman. CHUCK:  [Chuckles] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 53 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE:  Hi there. CHUCK:  Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hello, my mission is to bring calm to the boiling cauldron of hate that is the Internet. CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the pulling my hair out over Iowa. CHUCK:  Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  What up? CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv and don’t forget to use that code to get into Fluent Conf. MERRICK:  It’s a big conference. You can go to FluentConf.com for the schedule, happens May 28th to the 30th, it’s at the Hilton Union Square in San Francisco. And for our listeners, you can actually get 20% off on your ticket using JAVAJAB. And that will give you 20% off on the registration. CHUCK:  This week, we’re going to be talking about team dynamics and all the fun stuff that goes with it. To start us off, I kind of want to ask because I always get good stories from people when I ask questions like this. What is your worst team experience? JOE:  That’s quite a way to start it off. It sounds like a good way to get me to burn some bridges. AJ:  No, no, I know this one… JAMISON:  I played little league and I was scared of the ball. And I had the bat and I was really short and they wanted me to bat first because I’d be walked all the time to get on base but I just wanted to quit.

Use this link and code JAVAJAB to get 20% off your registration for FluentConf 2013! Panel Isaac Schlueter (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:33 - Isaac Schlueter Introduction NPM Node 02:33 - Node Backstory v8 SpiderMonkey Joyent 05:37 - Node and New Features Node.js v0.10.0 Manual & Documentation v8 13:30 - Language Accommodations TC39 Luvit libev libuv eventmachine @ GitHub Zedd Shaw 22:32 - C++ LibEVN - Node in C 25:19 - New Streams API 30:37 - Semantic Versioning Experimental versions 33:01 - NPM 39:30 - Issac’s Future 41:06 - Discovery Recommendation Engine Exposing Quality of Modules Code Quality 47:18 - Advice for Adopting Node Joyent The Node Firm StrongLoop Iris Couch Picks Wild at Heart Revised and Updated: Discovering the Secret of a Man’s Soul by John Eldredge (Joe) The Aquabats (Jamison) User Feedback: Isaac Schlueter (Jamison) Fluent 2013 (Merrick) Code: JAVAJAB So Good They Can’t Ignore You: Why Skills Trump Passion in the Quest for Work You Love by Cal Newport (Merrick) StarCraft II (Merrick) Moving to GruntJS: AJ ONeal (AJ) Intro to JSHint: Training Wheels for JavaScript: AJ ONeal (AJ) Gimp (AJ) And Another Thing... (The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) by Eoin Colfer Free Music Downloads on Last.fm (AJ) Blackbird Blackbird - Hawaii (AJ) Hazel (Chuck) Mac Power Users (Chuck) Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life (Isaac) Next Week Software Team Dynamics Transcript CHUCK:  You all ready? JAMISON:  Super ready. AJ:  So ready.  JOE:  I was born ready. MERRICK:  I was molded by ready. [Laughter] CHUCK:  Alright. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at  Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 52 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE:  Hey there. CHUCK:  We also have Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  What up? CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal. AJ:  How do you decide the order each week? CHUCK:  I just make it up. AJ:  Okay. It’s only random. CHUCK:  And Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hey guys. CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv and we have a special guess that’s Isaac. I know I’m going to destroy your last name. Let me see if I can say it… You say it. ISAAC:  Schlueter. CHUCK:  Schlueter! ISAAC:  Yeah. AJ:  That’s so much easier than I’d ever imagined. [Laughter] ISAAC:  I wanted to hear Chuck keep going on that. JOE:  Yeah, it’s pretty good. CHUCK:  It has extra constantans in it, it throws me off. And then extra vowels. MERRICK:  I heard him just crying, “Shu...shu…” [Laughs] ISSAC:  I have relatives that can’t say it right and it’s their name so… [Laughter] CHUCK:  Alright. Well, do you want to introduce yourself real quickly since you haven’t been on the show? ISAAC:  Sure. I am the author of NPM and I’ve been maintaining Node for the last -- Jesus! It’s been almost a year and a half now, a year or so. CHUCK:  So just a couple small projects that nobody’s heard of, right? [Laughter] ISAAC:  Yeah, a handful of little things on GitHub. CHUCK:  Is there anything else we have to know about you? ISAAC:  I enjoy changing my Twitter avatar to things that are funny or disturbing or preferably both. [Laughter] ISAAC:  And, I don’t know. CHUCK:  Alright. Well, we really appreciate you coming on the show. AJ:  That is pretty disturbing dude. You’ve got your face on a really overweight cat.

Panel AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:02 - Panelist employment backgrounds 04:34 - Programming job market Networking 06:31 - How to get a job doing what you like BetterServers Skunkworks project 09:36 - Qualifications 11:40 - How you find jobs Being active in online and offline communities Mailing list advertisement Recruiters and job boards 15:51 - Resumes 19:27 - Interviews “I don’t know.” Pairing 24:50 - Company fit 095 RR People and Team Dynamics with Joe O’Brien Contract to hire work 30:47 - What makes somewhere a good place to work? Autonomy 40:32 - Freelancing The Ruby Freelancers Show Picks Psych Season 7 (AJ) The Fradio - MediaBox (AJ) Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard (Jamison) 48 Days to the Work You Love: Preparing for the New Normal by Dan Miller (Chuck) No More Mondays: Fire Yourself -- and Other Revolutionary Ways to Discover Your True Calling at Work by Dan Miller (Chuck) 48 Days Podcast (Chuck) From the Dust (AJ) Next Week Node.js 0.10 Release with Isaac Schlueter Transcript [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at  Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 51 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Chuck, did you realize that this is like our anniversary? CHUCK:  Our anniversary was in January actually. Though, we missed a handful of episodes. Otherwise, it would be. Yeah. AJ:  Yeah, whatever. I don’t know whether or not I'm alive. I don’t know when our anniversary is. I don’t know nothing. CHUCK:  [Laughs] We also have Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hey guys! CHUCK:  I'm Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about finding a job. I'm a little curious. AJ, you're freelance now, aren’t you? AJ:  Yeah, kind of. CHUCK:  Kind of. AJ:  Mostly, I'm just working on projects that I've been wanting to work on. I haven't actually sought out a lot of work. CHUCK:  Oh, okay. And Jamison is empris -- or employed. JAMISON:  [Laughs] Or happily employed. CHUCK:  I'm freelance as well, been a freelance for a few years now. So, and I know that Tim went freelance. I don’t know if that stuck or not. It sounded like it has, at least, until he decides he wants to be somewhere else. JAMISON:  Merrick and Joe are both employed though. CHUCK:  Yeah. They both work at Domo. JAMISON:  They're like half and half, I guess, now. CHUCK:  So, how many places have you guys worked at as programmers? AJ:  I just worked at BYU and SpotterRF. JAMISON:  I have worked at four places. But one of them, I did PHP and Drupal. I don’t know if I could count that as a programmer then. CHUCK:  [Laughs] You plucked out the bad memories. JAMISON:  Yeah. Well, it was great for the time. It was [inaudible]. CHUCK:  Yeah. I did IT at BYU. I didn’t ever actually work for them as a programmer. And then, I ran tech support at Mozy and I did programming there but it wasn’t part of my job description. My job description was to run the Tech Support Department. So, people would call in with problems with Mozy and we would help fix them. But we needed an Issue Management System, our ticketing system, whatever you want to call it. And we also needed some kind of knowledge base. And the company really didn’t want to spring for it. So, I wound up building it. AJ:  Cool! [Chuckles] CHUCK:  And that’s kind of how I made the transition into programming because after working on that for a while,

Panel Jörn Zaefferer (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:15 - Jörn Zaefferer Introduction jQuery QUnit 02:32 - QUnit jQuery Mobile Introduction to Unit Testing | QUnit 06:59 - Built-in support for HTML fixtures for your tests 08:50 - Unit Testing joshuaclayton / specit mmonteleone / pavlov 11:57 - Assertions fn:deep-equal 15:49 - Why use QUnit? unit testing - QUnit vs Jasmine - Stack Overflow stacktrace.js 023 RR Book Club: Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns with Kent Beck 26:01 - User experience for user interface 30:03 - Continuous integration setups Jenkins CI PhantomJS 023 JSJ Phantom.js with Ariya Hidayat jquery / testswarm jQuery's TestSwarm BrowserStack 36:55 - Testing in JavaScript Sauce Labs: Cloudified Browser Testing Testacular SeleniumHQ 43:35 - Add-ons Picks MYO - The Gesture Control Armband (Jamison) Mailbox (Jamison) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe’s Course) (Joe) DragonBox (Joe) Breeze.js (Joe) Anker Battery Pack (Chuck) App.net (Chuck) Leap Motion (Jörn) jQuery Validation Plugin Pledgie (Jörn) Next Week Finding a job Transcript JOE:  I'm really glad that I didn’t know you when Star Wars first came out....Dude! Vader’s Luke’s father. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 50 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hello friends. CHUCK:  We have Joe Eames. JOE:  Hey, everybody. CHUCK:  I'm Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. I'm the only person on this particular episode whose name does not start with J. We also have -- I know I'm going to destroy this name. Jorn Zaefferer. JORN:  Hi! Yeah, it’s me. You should have practiced the last name too. CHUCK:  Yeah. JOE:  You should pronounce that correctly for us so we know. JORN:  Jorn Zaefferer. CHUCK:  Alright. Well, I can say Jorn. So, I’m going to stick with that. JORN:  Yeah, that works. CHUCK:  Do you want to introduce your self for the people who aren’t aware of who you are and what you do? JORN:  Sure. I'm a freelance software developer since a little bit more than two years now. I am involved a lot in the jQuery project and have been involved in that for years. So far, I'm the only person on the Board of Directors of the jQuery Foundation outside of the US. And for the jQuery project, I'm working mostly on jQuery UI and the testing tools. So jQuery UI, I'm one of the lead developers. One was Scott Gonzalez. For the testing tools, I'm leading that team. So, I'm trying to get contributions from other people so things move along evenly. There’s usually much more work to do than I can handle myself. So, I’m trying my best to get open source going there. CHUCK:  So, you work on jQuery UI and QUnit? JORN:  I’m working on the jQuery UI and the testing tools which involves QUnit and a few other things. QUnit is the one that’s actually featured in the jQuery site. We also have TestSwarm and even smaller tools that eventually should get there as well. It’s much more influx than QUnit is. CHUCK:  Interesting. So, we brought you on the show to talk about QUnit. Joe is kind of our testing guru as far as JavaScript goes. Is QUnit just a unit testing framework or do you provide other tools for integration with a backend or other libraries? JORN:  QUnit focuses mostly on unit testing. But people usually end up using it for other things as well. I heard a story where someone was using QUnit to do performance regression testing.

Panel Valerio Proietti (twitter github) Arian Stolwijk (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:08 - Arian Stolwijk Introduction MooTools Developer Symbaloo 01:39 - Valerio Proietti Introduction MooTools Creator Spotify 02:21 - What is MooTools? Github - MooTools 07:04 - The Class System mootools / prime 09:36 - Milk 10:25 - Design Goals Ghost 11:19 - Prime mootools / wrapup CommonJS 14:18 - MooTools vs jQuery 19:53 - Using MooTools and jQuery together Object Oriented jQuery with MooTools @jQuery Conference: Ryan Florence 21:08 - MooTools for Frameworks epitome neuro Github - MooTools 23:48 - Chaining MooTools Demos - Chaining 26:59 - Request API for Ajax calls 29:11 - Favorite MooTools-using Websites Spotify 9GAG 29:45 - Accomplishments Class System wrapup arian / prime-util 31:36 - The history of MooTools script.aculo.us moo.fx Picks Wasteland 2 (Joe) The Lost Fleet Series by Jack Campbell (Joe) MooTools (Merrick) People who can ride on airplanes for the first time (Merrick) ES6 Module Transpiler - Tomorrow's JavaScript module syntax today (Jamison) ajacksified / song-of-github (Jamison) Community Vote for OpenWest Conference 2013 (Jamison) walmartlabs / hapi (Jamison) Cornify (Chuck) Parade of Homes (Chuck) Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University (Chuck) Floby / node-libspotify (Valerio) visionmedia / superagent (Valerio) kamicane / moofx (Valerio) Why Mozilla Matters: Brendan Eich (Arian) Ubuntu (source code) (Arian) Next Week QUnit with Jörn Zaefferer Transcript MERRICK:  Yeah, call me Mer-rock, I’m cool with that. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey, everybody and welcome to Episode 49 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE:  Howdy. CHUCK:  We have Merrick Christensen.  MERRICK:  Hey, guys. CHUCK:  Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hello friends. CHUCK:  And I'm Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And I just want to remind you, if you're going to sign up for Rails Ramp Up, you have one week. We also have two special guests and that is Valerio Proietti VALERIO:  Hello. CHUCK:  And Arian Stolwijk. ARIAN:  Hello. CHUCK:  And I think I got close on those names. Okay. So, why don't we have Arian go first? I'd like you just to introduce yourself really quickly for people who aren’t familiar with who you are? ARIAN:  So, I’m Arian. I'm a MooTools developer mostly. Besides that, I work for a company called Symbaloo which is bookmark website page. Besides that, I'm actually still studying for my Master’s Degree in Embedded Systems. And that's about it. CHUCK:  Cool. And Valerio, do you want to introduce yourself? VALERIO:  Sure. Well, I created MooTools a few years ago and since then, a lot of cool people have joined the project like Arian who we have here today. I’m currently working in Sweden at Spotify. CHUCK:  Oh, cool! MERRICK:  Very cool! CHUCK:  Yeah, we like Spotify. MERRICK:  Is that the headquarters of Spotify is in Sweden? VALERIO:  Yeah, this is the where the magic happens. They have other offices but they're not as important as the Swedish one. [Laughter] VALERIO:  I'm kidding. Everybody’s important, not just the Swedish one. CHUCK:  Very nice, very nice. Alright. So, do you guys want to just take a minute and explain what MooTools is? I think people have some idea, but just to get kind of a base line for the rest of the conversation. VALERIO:  Yes,

Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:56 - Why JavaScript is hard to learn 02:30 - This 05:30 - Bind 09:11 - Browsers 11:01 - Class-based inheritance Prototypal inheritance 16:37 - New function 18:51 - Closures 20:51 - JavaScript is asynchronous 22:14 - Variable scoping Hoisting 26:14 - Numbers and math (AJ joins the podcast) == ’s vs === ’s 32:15 - Things that make JavaScript hard after learning JavaScript Package management 35:06 - Numbers (cont’d) Crypto Bitwise operations Strings Effective JavaScript by David Herman 044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman 40:16 - Changing/Evolving JavaScript 43:31 - Environmental reasons that make JavaScript Hard Tooling 48:25 - Few projects are primarily JavaScript 49:07 - Adolescence and the JavaScript Ecosystem 53:59 - Running JavaScript Picks Sharpie Metallic Silver (AJ) The how and why of auto-executing functions (in JavaScript) (AJ) The JavaScript Unicycle (AJ) RSA (Tim) OUYA (Tim) Borderlands 2 (Joe) MechWarrior Tactics (Chuck) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe) Fire Up Ember.js | PeepCode (Chuck) Meet Chef (Part 2 of 2) | PeepCode (Chuck) Next Week MooTools with Arian Stolwijk and Valerio Proietti Transcript TIM:  I’m just learning lots of math and attempting to do real math in JavaScript is a fun challenge. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at  Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 48 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE:  Howdy! CHUCK:  We also have Tim Caswell. TIM:  Hello! CHUCK:  And I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And when this episode goes out, you’re going to have about two weeks left if you wanted to sign up for my Rails Ramp Up course. You’ll find that at RailsRampUp.com. I’ve been working hard on that. This week, we’re going to talk about why JavaScript is hard. And I think it was Tim that came on and said, “So, we’re talking about why JavaScript sucks?” And I didn’t want to call it that but at the same time, it’s one of the -- I think the reasons that people find JavaScript hard and the reasons some people say that JavaScript sucks are kind of the same thing. So, if you want to think of it that way, go right ahead. But I kind of wanted to talk about this for a couple of reasons. One was that I was at the users’ group meeting last week and they talked about some of the things that make JavaScript hard and I don’t remember what they all were. But there were a few things that, there are some concepts that are markedly different from what you find in other languages or at least some of the concepts exist in the other languages but they aren’t kind of as important or as in-your-face as they are in JavaScript. Anyway, the other reason is that I was thinking about when I first started this show. And when I first started the show, I was a web developer that was kind of like, “jQuery, whoo!” And thought jQuery and JavaScript, you know, were mostly the same in the sense that the only way to write sane JavaScript was to use jQuery. And so, I wanted to talk around some of the things that I’ve learned over the last year from the other panelists and help people who are coming into JavaScript understand the real power behind some of these other concepts. So that being said, let’s go ahead and get started. I’m a little curious as to what you guys think are some of the hard things that people run into in JavaScript, like why do they struggle with it? TIM:  Alright. So,

Panel Tom Dale (twitter github blog Tilde Inc.) James Halliday (twitter github substack.net) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:52 - James Halliday Introduction browserify 02:37 - Tom Dale Introduction iCloud Ember.js Big Data & Hadoop 04:47 - Specialized vs Monolithic github.com/tildeio Idiology Micro Libraries 14:13 - Learning Frameworks 18:04 - Making things modular 25:23 - Picking the right tool for the job 27:44 - voxel.js & emberjs emberjs / packages BPM - Browser Package Manager NPM - Node Packaged Modules testling-ci Backbone.js 38:19 - Module Systems CommonJS 41:14 - Cloud9 Use Case 43:54 - Bugs jQuery Source Code Picks jQuery 2.0 (Merrick) ECMAScript 6 Module Definition (Merrick) AMD (Merrick) Yiruma (Joe) Elementary (Joe) Miracle Berry Tablets (AJ) The Ubuntu You Deserve (AJ) Bravemule (Jamison) RealtimeConf Europe (Tim) visionmedia / cpm (Tim) Why I Love Being A Programmer in Louisville (or, Why I Won’t Relocate to Work for Your Startup: Ernie Miller (Chuck) Is Audio The Next Big Thing In Digital Marketing? [Infographic] (Chuck) testling-ci (James) voxel.js (James) CAMPJS (James) Discourse (Tom) Williams-Sonoma 10-Piece Glass Bowl Set (Tom) The Best Simple Recipes by America’s Test Kitchen (Tom) Next Week Why Javascript is Hard Transcript JAMISON:  You can curse but we will just edit it out and replace it with fart noises. TOM:  I’ll be providing plenty of my own. [Laughter] JAMISON:  Okay, good. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 47 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you not even live! CHUCK:  [Laughs] Alright, Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hi guys, it’s tough to follow that. CHUCK:  Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  Hey. CHUCK:  Joe Eames. JOE:  Howdy! CHUCK:  Tim Caswell. TIM:  Hello. CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we have two guests. The first one is Tom Dale. TOM:  Hey, thanks for having me. CHUCK:  The other is James Halliday. JAMES:  Yep. Hello. CHUCK:  Welcome to the show, guys. We were having a conversation a while back, I don’t remember if it was during another episode or after another episode. But we were having a discussion over code complexity and having like small simple libraries or small simple sets of functionality versus large monolithic sets of functionality, and how to approach those and when they’re appropriate. So, we brought you guys on to help us explore this because you're experts, right? TOM:  I don’t think that’s a fair analysis of the situation, but we can certainly fumble our way through something. [Laughter] CHUCK:  Alright. So, why don’t you guys, real quick, just kind of introduce yourselves? Give us a little background on what your experience is so that we know which questions to ask you guys. James, why don’t you start? I know you’ve been on the show before. JAMES:  Hello. I suppose I wrote Browserify which is relevant here. It’s a common JS style, bundler packager thing that just uses NPM. And I have a bunch of other libraries. And I really like doing data development as just a bunch of little modules put together. They are all published completely independently on NPM. I think I’m up to like 230-ish some odd modules on NPM now. So, I’ve been doing that and I really like that style.

Panel Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 03:19 - The Future of JavaScript and ES6 es-discuss -- Discussion of ECMAScript @esdiscuss six ES6 in node.js @brendaneich (Brendan Eich) @rwaldron (Rick Waldron) 10:18 - Getting News about JavaScript @derickbailey (Derick Bailey) @tjholowaychuk (TJ Holowaychuk aka Vision Media) @substack (James Halliday) @maxodgen (Max Ogden) Peter Cooper’s JavaScript Weekly Peter Cooper’s HTML5 Weekly @badass_js (Badass JavaScript) @seb_ly (Seb Lee-Delisle) 12:43 - Blogs Ben Alman James Burke LosTechies Alvin Ashcraft’s Morning Dew The Changelog reddit 17:02 - Filtering Readability Pocket (formerly Read It Later) Instapaper three.js UTOSC 2012 Machine Learning in JavaScript Jamison Dance VIDEO0023 23:21 - The Community Airbnb Meetups Addy Osmani: Articles for Developers Utah JS Utah Software Craftsmanship Group Ruby Rogues Parley 27:33 - Podcasts and Videos The Changelog YUI Theater (Yahoo Theater) Google Tech Talks Coursera InfoQ Talks to Help You Become A Better Front-End Developer in 2013: Addy Osmani How To Stay Up To Date on Web Technology: Chris Coyier RubyTapas The JavaScript Show Wide Teams Emacs Rocks! The Breakpoint with Paul Irish and Addy Osmani NodeUp 35:53 - More Blogs HTML5 Rocks A Minute With Brendan Eich John Resig 36:16 - Conferences CascadiaJS JSConf NodeConf Picks Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (Joe) Might & Magic Clash of Heroes (Joe) Diet Coke (Merrick) Noah Gundersen (Merrick) Anis Mojgani (Merrick) How to create a bookmarklet (and load jQuery anywhere)! (AJ) So I installed Ubuntu Linux... Now what? (AJ) Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver of the 10th Doctor (Chuck) Powermat Power Dual 1200 Rechargeable Backup Battery (Chuck) Next Week Monolithic vs Modular Design w/ Tom Dale and James Halliday Transcript AJ: I ate a lot of pickle chips this morning. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 46 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK: We have Merrick Christensen. MERRICK: Hey guys! CHUCK: AJ O'Neal. AJ: I was informed that I'm not actually live. CHUCK: [laughs] Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. And real quick I just want to mention...I know that most of the people who listen to this show are JavaScript developers, but if you're interested in learning Ruby on Rails, then I'm going to be teaching a course. It starts in March and you basically get unlimited access to me during the course, access of forms. It's going to be online live training and then coding and Q&A. So if you're interested in that, go to railsrampup.com and sign up. AJ: Now what is "unlimited" mean when you talk about access to you? MERRICK: [scoffs] Come on, man! CHUCK: [laughs] If I'm awake, I'm probably available to answer to all your questions. MERRICK: Do panelists get discounts? CHUCK: If you're interested, I can probably work something out. JOE: Interesting. CHUCK: In fact, I'm offering a discount for anyone who listens to the podcast. If you go and sign up and you enter the coupon code podcast, it'll give you $200 off. MERRICK: Oh nice! Nice! AJ: Panelists only get $50 off, though. CHUCK: That's right. It's like my dad when he graduated from demo school, his cousin came up to him and said "So, do we get a family discount?" and he says "Yeah, I'll charge you 50% more". MERRICK: [laughs] No, kidding!

Panel AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:11 - jQuery vs Prototype vs MooTools 10:50 - JavaScript Going Mainstream Fast Browsers Firefox Web Developer Tools V8 Web Stack 13:21 - Usable JavaScript 17:05 - jQuery Pros Cross-Platform CSS Selection Chaining 20:16 - jQuery Mobile 20:48 - QUnit 21:21 - Running jQuery in Node Scraping 22:32 - CSS Manipulation 24:14 - jQuery UI 25:19 - jQuery Community 26:31 - jQuery Plugins AJ’s image Merrick’s image 29:52 - Ender & Zepto.js 33:44 - jQuery Cons Custom Selectors Plugin Documentation API is too large How to build your own jQuery 52:15 - AJ lied about jQuery Picks The Robert C. Martin Clean Code Collection (Joe) Old Man’s War by John Scalzi (Joe) Human Connectome Project (Merrick) pahen / node-madge (Merrick) Hype Machine (Merrick) Nothing to Envy: Ordinary Lives in North Korea by Barbara Demick (Jamison) Men’s Medium Tall (AJ) Ubuntu Phone (AJ) Interpreted Dance (AJ) Aaron Frost (AJ) aaronfrost / getusermedia-gestures-preso (AJ) AJ’s Blog (AJ) Hydrofarm Thirsty Light (Chuck) Powermat Power Dual 1200 Rechargeable Backup Battery (Chuck) Joe’s Pluralsight Page Transcript: MERRICK:  Do you want to see my face? [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 45 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the screencastosphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK:  So, I have to ask, AJ. You realize this is a podcast and that it’s coming to no one live, right? [Laughter] AJ:  He’s got a good point. CHUCK:  We also have Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  Yeah, I’m Merrick. CHUCK:  Joe Eames. JOE:  I’m not Merrick, I’m Joe. MERRICK:  He’s Joe. CHUCK:  Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hello friends. CHUCK:  And I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about jQuery. So, I’m assuming we’ve all used jQuery at least a little bit. JAMISON:  Yes. MERRICK:  Yup. CHUCK:  If you’re doing web stuff, it’s pretty handy. MERRICK:  Actually, the first JavaScript code I ever wrote was messing with somebody’s little jQuery stuff on a form. And I remember I couldn’t get it to all work right. So I just had to set async to false. And I was like, “Man, this JavaScript language is stupid!” CHUCK:  [Laughs] AJ:  I wish my first experience had been with jQuery because I was not using jQuery when I was first using JavaScript and it was terribad. It’s like, “This works properly in no browsers!” Because each tutorial is wrong. CHUCK:  Yeah. Well, I remember back in the day when I was using Prototype for my web app. So, jQuery was a huge step up from Prototype, I have to say. MERRICK:  Why? CHUCK:  It’s just that the interface of the API felt better to me. I can’t really quantify how. MERRICK:  That’s fair. I was a big MooTools fan and I was kind of a hate Query, if you will. AJ:  As you should be, actually. MERRICK:  I didn’t hate jQuery per se, but I really loved MooTools just because the APIs were just so beautiful. And also, all of this new age, these structural libraries like Backbone and all that kind of thing was really natural in MooTools already, right? Because everything was so class-oriented and I’m not saying classes are the only way to organize your code.

Panel David Herman (twitter blog Effective JavaScript) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:01 - David Herman Introduction Mozilla Mozilla Research TC39 - ECMAScript 01:45 - Effective JavaScript by David Herman 04:27 - Reader Opinions & Controversy JavaScript:The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford 09:09 - ES3 Shimming 11:25 - Code: effectivejs/code 12:50 - Parts of the Book 15:54 - Blocking Web Gestures With getUserMedia: Part1: Aaron Frost 17:28 - Book Level of Difficulty Effective C++ by Scott Meyers 20:09 - Asynchronous APIs Recursion Tail-Call Optimization 26:51 - Programming Language Academics 30:55 - DOM Integration Effective C++ by Scott Meyers Effective STL by Scott Meyers 31:50 - Advice for JavaScript Beginners Eloquent Javascript by Marijn Haverbeke JavaScript Enlightenment by Cody Lindley How to Design Programs 33:16 - Advice for Programmers in General 34:53 - Performance 38:16 - The JavaScript Language 40:45 - Primitives Vs Wrapper Classes 42:37 - Semicolons 45:24 - -0/+0 Picks Jack (Tim) Putting Constants on the Left (AJ) Getting Started with Amazon AWS EC2 (1 year free VPS web hosting) (AJ) Notes on Distributed Systems for Young Bloods: Jeff Hodges (Jamison) Hurdles getting started with Ember.js (Jamison) Grieves (Merrick) The Scala Programming Language (Merrick) Antoine Dufour (Joe) Torchlight II (Joe) Appliness Digital Magazine (Joe) Powermat Home & Office Mat (Chuck) Une Bobine (Chuck) The Rust Programming Language (David) mozilla/servo (David) Roominate Toy (David) OpenWest Conference Call For Papers (AJ) Transcript CHUCK:  The most effective way to hack is quickly. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 44 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hello. CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the living roomisphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK:  We have Joe Eames. JOE:  Hi. CHUCK:  Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  What’s up guys? CHUCK:  Tim Caswell. TIM:  Hello. CHUCK:  I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest, Dave Herman. DAVE:  Hi there. CHUCK:  So Dave, you haven’t been on the show before. Do you want to introduce yourself? DAVE:  Sure. I work for Mozilla. I have sort of helped create this new department called Mozilla Research where we do a whole bunch of web platform experiments and new technology for the web. And I also am on the horribly named TC39, the standards organization for ECMAScript, working on the next edition of the JavaScript standard. CHUCK:  Cool. DAVE:  Oh, and I wrote this book. CHUCK: You did this book. TIM:  You didn’t just read it and then become an expert on the book and then talk on a podcast about it? [Laughter] CHUCK:  So, I heard about this book. I’m a little curious when you started writing the book, I mean, what was the idea behind it? What inspired it? DAVE:  To tell you the truth, I had no intention of writing a book, it didn’t occur to me. But the publishers reached out to me, I guess they heard of me through TC39, maybe ‘es-discuss’ or something. But they said, “Okay we’ve got this series, this Effective series.” And I was very familiar with Effective C++ which I think is a great book and I really like the format. And just when they approached me, I kind of thought, “You know,

Panel Christian Johansen (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:45 - Christian Johansen Test-Driven JavaScript Development Sinon.JS Gitorious 01:26 - Sinon.JS 02:22 - Stubs, Mocks and Spies Mocks Aren’t Stubs: Martin Fowler Mocha 10:47 - History of Sinon.JS 12:25 - XHR, HML, HTTP 13:36 - Mocking the Clock Set Time Out 17:22 - Test-Driven JavaScript Development Andrea Giammarchi @WebReflection The Pragmatic Bookshelf Screencasts 21:43 - Test Framework Buster.JS js-test-driver 24:17 - Other Mocking Libraries mockjax 26:24 - Mocking Properties 27:22 - Matchers 30:46 - Sinon.JS Gotchas 33:10 - State of Test-Driven Development in JavaScript Strategies for Testing Picks Jack Reacher (Joe) Torchlight II (Joe) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (Merrick) Rdio (Merrick) Adventure Time (Jamison) How to implement an algorithm from a scientific paper: Emmanuel Goossaert (Jamison) Advanced Vim registers (Jamison) Emacs Rocks! (Christian) Simple Made Easy (Christian) LEGO Lord of the Rings (Christian) Testing Clientside JavaScript (Joe) Transcript MERRICK:  Classy guy. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] JAMISON:  Hello friends. Welcome to JavaScript Jabber. This is Episode number 43. Today, we have Joe Eames. JOE:  Howdy! JAMISON:  Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  Hey guys! JAMISON:  And Christian Johansen. And also me, Jamison Dance. But Christian is the special guest today. Do you want to talk a little bit about yourself? Introduce yourself for those of us that don’t know you? CHRISTIAN:  Yeah, sure. First of all, hi! I'm in Oslo, Norway up in the cold north. So, I wrote a book about testing JavaScript a couple of years back called ‘Test-Driven JavaScript Development’. And I've done a few open source libraries. Perhaps the one that most people know about is Sinon.JS. And currently, I work at Gitorious.org. So, that’s the brief introduction about me, I guess. JAMISON:  Great! Chuck is gone today. He’s at CES, I believe. So, that’s why I'm filling in for him. I think we want to talk mainly about Sinon.JS today. Do you want to just give an overview of it? CHRISTIAN:  Sure. JAMISON:  For those who have never heard of Sinon.JS, what is it? CHRISTIAN:  Sinon.JS is a stubbing and mocking library which means that when you're writing automated tests for your JavaScript, Sinon provides a tool kit to help you test functions and callbacks and stuff like that, to track how they're being used throughout the system. And then, it also provides some utilities to test asynchronous stuff through timers, like Set Time Out and Set Interval and those kinds of things. And it also has a fake XMLHttpRequest implementation. So, it allows you to test your client side JavaScript completely decoupled from the server and it gives you an API to mimic the role of the server in your tests. So, you can focus a test on how the client side reacts to various kind of behavior from the server. JAMISON:  So, you talked about stubbing and mocking. And I think, that means we have to get into the hairy discussion of the difference between stubs and mocks? MERRICK:  And spies. JAMISON:  And spies, yeah. Do you want to explain that a little bit? CHRISTIAN:  Sure. I can explain my take on it because I know there are more than just mine. MERRICK:  Sure. CHRISTIAN:  I'm using the terminology pretty much like Martin Fowler did and he has a famous article called ‘Spies are Not Mocks’ or something like that. So,

Panel Brian Turley (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 02:11 - CSS Gripes Sass Scalable and Modular Architecture for CSS (SMACSS) CSS3 16:32 - Preprocessors/Compilers LESS Sass Stylus Compass Chris Eppstein 20:34 - Basic Features of CSS Preprocessors nib mix-ins 23:02 - Usefulness 27:15 - Mathematics w/ Variables Susy 28:54 - Animation Using CSS animations 31:12 - Nesting 35:40 - Build Processes grunt.js 42:20 - Distinction Prefixing 47:35 - Tightly Coupled Picks Old Man’s War by John Scalzi (Joe) X-Wing Miniatures Game (Joe) Dave Crowe (Merrick) Utah Software Craftsmanship Group (AJ) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (AJ) SD Card (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) Consumer Electronics Show (Chuck) iOS Development Podcast (Chuck) Grid Systems in Graphic Design by Josef Muller-Brockmann (Brian) IFTTT (Brian) Book Club Effective JavaScript by David Herman Transcript MERRICK:  You have more technical problems than any other nerd I know. [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 42 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. MERRICK:  He’s out to a phone call, terrible timing. CHUCK:  We also have Merrick Christensen. MERRICK:  That’s me. CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the snow sphere of Provo, Utah. CHUCK:  And we have a guest, that’s Brian Turley. BRIAN:  That’s right. I’m a designer friend of AJ’s. CHUCK:  We’re talking about CSS today so we brought in a designer to set us all straight. And I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. And like I said, we’re talking about CSS today. One of the things I think that’s interesting about CSS is that it converges with JavaScript. Well, there are a couple of things but one is systems like LESS, that kind of compile, they give you some sane options for dealing with some of the dumb stuff that CSS doesn’t include. Then the other one is, I’ve also wound up fighting designers for selectors in the HTML. And so, I thought we could talk through that a little bit as well. BRIAN:  Hey, Chuck? CHUCK:  Yes? BRIAN:  I think those are two like really good points but I think there’s even more areas we can discuss in terms of how JavaScript and CSS are coupled. Like computed styles from JavaScript and also all the CSS methods from JavaScript. And the fact that your JavaScript sometimes doesn’t work, your UI doesn’t work unless the CSS is set up. I think the two tend to be a lot more coupled than people like to think. CHUCK:  I agree. That’s fair. So, which avenue or which aspect do you want to tackle first? Should we talk about just CSS and where it kind of doesn’t give us what we want? BRIAN:  I would love to complain about CSS. I got some bitterness in that sphere. CHUCK:  I know some people consider it programming but it doesn’t have any of the things that classic programming has like variables and functions or methods or anything like that. And I think that’s where a lot of us get frustrated is that we’re used to being able to reuse things, we’re used to being able to set things up that will define the behavior that we want. And in CSS, you really don’t have that. It’s really just simple markup. JOE:  So, do we consider the CSS languages, like Sass and LESS and all those to be part of CSS because then we talk about actually having those things. CHUCK:  Yes. I don’t know if you can call them CSS.

Panel Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 02:09 - Follow Up to 040 JSJ Conferences Broad Conferences vs Focused Conferences Utah Open Source/Open West Conference 2013 05:28 - Single Page Application Frameworks jQuery Backbone.js Ember.js pure.js plates.js AngularJS 15:10 - Path & Hash Routing Pushstate/Popstate sammy.js jquery.bbq localStorage == cookies history.js 22:23 - Synchronizing Your Data WebSocket Operational Transformation Lucidchart 24:51 - WebSockets cURL Socket.IO 32:44 - App Issues Memory 38:52 - When do you want a Single Page App? Jade LESS Picks Simple (AJ) Coding for Interviews (Jamison) Empirical Zeal: What does randomness look like? (Jamison) Aeron Chair by Herman Miller (Chuck) Allrecipes.com (Chuck) Book Club Effective JavaScript by David Herman Transcript AJ:  Yeah, I think I'm 26 still, for another 6 months. CHUCK:  Yeah. You have to count on your toes to figure it out. AJ:  Yeah, twice actually. Because once I'm already bent over, I just keep counting on my toes. I don't start back at my fingers. CHUCK:  [laughs] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.] [This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Widge Mo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to WidgeMo.com and check them out.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 41 of the JavaScript Jabbers show. I almost said Ruby Rogues. How tired am I? JAMISON:  Don't cheat on us, Chuck. CHUCK:  It's right after Christmas. JAMISON:  We know you have another family but we love you when we have you. CHUCK:  Oh, my gosh! Yeah, we had family here for two days and my wife panics when people are coming over and has to have the house immaculate. And then she kept getting tired or sick or having some other issues. So, I kept forcing her to go to bed and then staying up until 2:00 AM, cleaning the house. So, I’m totally worn out. Anyway, so this is JavaScript Jabber, it's not Ruby Rogues. If you want Ruby Rogues, go to RubyRogues.com and see what we were talking about over there. Last week, we talked about conferences and I know that AJ wanted to say something. I guess we usually do the introductions first. So, let's do that and then let AJ say his piece and then we’ll move onto our topic for today. So, this week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance. JAMISON:  Hi, guys! Merry Belated Christmas. CHUCK:  We have AJ O'Neil. AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo!  Coming at you from the green Christmasphere of Virginia. CHUCK:  Oh, you're in Virginia? AJ:  Yes, I am. Visiting family. CHUCK:  Cool. And I'm Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. I just want to put a quick plug in for my Rails course. If you want to learn Ruby on Rails, go to RailsRampUp.com. It's kind of a guided course and you get a lot of access to me to learn it. So AJ, what was it that you wanted to chime in with, with the conferences that we couldn't get you in last week to say? AJ:  Okay. So, both Merrick and myself have had this same experience. So, we were talking about having the broad conference versus the focused conference, the broad talk or workshop versus the more focused one. And we both have come to the conclusions that having it more focused is better. With the conference, it's fun to go to a broad conference but even in that, like it’s nice to have the focused talks like the ‘Utah Open Source Conference’ which this year is ‘Open West Conference’. It's expanding out and they've got some big surprise. I'm guessing they got some nice speakers. And the call for papers for that opens on January 2nd supposedly. So, that's a really nice conference but it's broad but it’s still fun.

Panel Trevor Tingey (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:16 - Conferences Attended Visual Studio Live (VS Live) (Joe) Utah Open Source (Joe & Chuck) Utah JS (Joe) MountainWest RubyConf (Trevor & Chuck) JSConf (Trevor) UberConference (Trevor) Web 2.0 (Trevor) RailsConf (Chuck) RubyConf (Chuck) Aloha Ruby Conference (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) 03:24 - Preparing/Planning for Conferences 08:39 - Chatting with Others/Making Contacts at Conferences Hackathons Social Activities 14:36 - Hackathons/Code Retreats/Workshops Global Day of Coderetreat DevTeach 18:46 - Methodology Conferences Agile Roots 22:42 - Industry Conferences vs Local/Regional Conferences Multiple Tracks Networking 28:12 - Making the Most out of Sessions Taking Notes Follow Along in Code Sessions Seating Choice 33:02 - Lightning Talks Speaking Exposure 35:37 - Speaking at Conferences (Tim Joins) Veteran Speakers vs Unique Speakers 41:00 - Submitting Proposals Interesting Title 42:56 - Mistakes People Make Speaking at Conferences Underestimating Time Practice Your Talk Be Excited 45:24 - Preparing Slides Bullet Points Color/Contrast 50:03 - Watch Your Audience Picks The Hobbit (Joe) RiffTrax (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) Blue Microphones: Yeti (Tim) Closure Compiler Service (Chuck) Headline Hacks (Chuck) Once Upon a Time (Trevor) Sublime Text 2 (Trevor) Jack Reacher (Trevor) Foo Fighters (Trevor) Transcript CHUCK:  From the meat lockers of Domo. [This episode today is sponsored by Component One. Makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to episode 40 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and we have a special guest, that’s Trevor Tingey. TREVOR:  Hello. CHUCK:  He’s joining us from Domo. We had some folks on vacation and stuff and we were short a few people. So, Joe invited one of his co-workers. I don’t really have co-workers per se since I’m doing contract stuff most of the time. Anyway... JOE:  Is your cat your co-worker, Chuck? CHUCK:  What was that? JOE:  Is your cat your co-worker? CHUCK:  I don’t have a cat. JOE:  A dog? CHUCK:  Nope, I don’t have a dog either. I’m allergic to cats. But yeah, no cats. Anyway, we’re going to talk this week about making the most of conferences. I’m a little curious, what conferences have you guys been able to attend over the last few years or over your career? JOE:  I was a Microsoft developer before I went fully front end. So I went to several Microsoft development conferences, VS Live was probably my favorite one. Recently, I’ve been to the Utah Open Source conference and the Utah JavaScript conference, really liked those. CHUCK:  Yeah, the local conferences are fun. What about you, Trevor? TREVOR:  I’ve been to a lot of conferences. Recently, I went to the Mountain West Ruby Conference. That was entertaining. I went to the JavaScript, JS Conf and that was the first Node Conf also was kind of dependent on the end of the JS Conf and that was up in Portland. I really liked that one. Like Joe, I used to do some Microsoft stuff. So, I’ve been to Microsoft before and several other ones in between, Uber Conf, Web 2.0 in New York. JOE:  Does Comdex count? I went to Comdex once. [laughs] CHUCK:  Yeah, I didn’t really start going to conferences until I gotten into Ruby. So, most of the conferences I’ve been to were Ruby related, though I did go the Utah Open Source and some of those. Yeah,