MakingComics.com Gutter Talk Podcast

San Diego Comic Con is a great place to meet and talk to comic artists and writers from all over the world. This year, Adam had the opportunity to talk to creators from Fanbase Press for Making Comics Gutter Talk episodes. In this week’s episode, two of them, David Accampo and Amanda Donahue join Adam on the back terrace of the San Diego Convention Center, out where you can hear everything from the medieval knights battling it out to the military helicopters flying by to the seagulls on the bay behind us. The conversation began with a discussion on their latest collaboration, The Margins, and what it meant to them as creators. After their history was dredged up, but in a good way, the talk turned to the comic creating process, from the David’s writing to Amanda’s first foray into the world of comics. If you enjoy these podcasts and want to hear more of them, please visit our Patreon page and help us make that happen. We at Making Comics would very much like to get back to our roots and put out podcast content on a regular, weekly basis. But in order to do that, we need your help. Also visit us on iTunes and give us a rating and review. This increases the podcast visibility and more listeners means more opportunity for more content. See the big, beautiful circle we’re drawing? David & Amanda’s Links: David’s site  (@daccampo) Amanda’s site (IG page) THE MARGINS Resources: Website:   www.TheMarginsComic.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheMarginsComic/ Twitter:    @TheMarginsComics Purchase Link:  https://fanboycomics.ecrater.com/p/30006833/the-margins Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Ad Song: “Caprese” by Blue Dot Sessions Licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial License (http://freemusicarchive.org) Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

Earlier this year, while at Wondercon 2018 in Anaheim, CA, Adam met some of the fine folks at Fanbase Press and knew right away the artists and writers for the comics they put out needed to be on the Making Comics Gutter Talk podcast. Yes, needed. And it really started when Adam spotted the banner for the comic Penguins Vs Possums. We could talk about the art all day but the story and title are fantastic attention grabbers. Within the first few panels, you’re hooked. Because of this, Adam was eager to have co-creator of that series, Sebastian Kadlecik, on the show. As Comic Con 2018 neared, the well-deserved hype for his latest creation, Quince, was growing so getting to record a conversation at the convention just seemed both the wise thing to do and fate. You know, if you believe in that stuff. The conversation ranged everywhere from Sebastian’s background and growth in writing, comics, and even acting, to the necessary decisions when determining the artistic layout of scenes within a comic. And don’t mind the group of people behind them having their own good time outside of the convention. Speaking of…. Before that chat with Sebastian, you’ll hear a portion of a conversation during a Comic Con after-party about the vagueness and even capitalistic aspect of what can and can’t be released in a podcast when it comes to background noise. Participants included Gutter Talk alumni Dean Haspiel and Chris Miskiewicz, as well as Glynnes Pruett, owner/operator of Comic Book Hideout in Fullerton, CA. As stated in the podcast, no one makes a claim to be any kind of legal expert on this stuff. It just seemed applicable. And some of it was just plain silliness that needed to be shared. And finally, please find us on iTunes and give us a rating and review. It really helps get the visibility and word out about this podcast, and in the end, more listeners and support means more content for you. Please also check out our Patreon page by clicking here. Sebastian’s Links: QUINCE Resources: Website:  www.QuinceComic.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/quincecomic/ Twitter:    @QuinceComic ComiXology:  https://www.comixology.com/Quince/comics-series/86597?ref=cHVibGlzaGVyL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9saXN0L3Nlcmllc0xpc3Q TPB Purchase Link: 

We know, it’s a Monday. In the history of the Making Comics Gutter Talk podcast, it has never been released on any day of the week besides Friday. However, in this instance, the timing called for it. While there may be some purists or other creatures of habit who find this to be troublesome, we first offer this advice: take a breath. Everything will be okay. We promise. Then listen to this episode. Trust us, you’ll feel better. In this Gutter Talk episode, Adam sits down with Jimmy Palmiotti, whose attributes run a marathon but to list a few, he created Painkiller Jane. He’s also one of the co-creators of Marvel Knights, which comes up as a discussion topic in the conversation between Adam and Jimmy. Then there’s Harley Quinn, a character in which he and his wife Amanda Conner helped increase popularity levels to great heights. Oh, and Painkiller Jane… and Deadpool… and the Punisher… Also, Jimmy is the co-founder of PaperFilms, along with (again) Amanda Conner, and has some pretty amazing talent on board, like Justin Gray, Craig Weeden, Frank Tieri, and more. Pretty impressive. Make sure to also subscribe in iTunes or wherever you find your favorite podcasts. Also, please, for the love of all that is podcast holy, give us a rating and review. We won’t hold it against you if you don’t but you’d be our new best friend if you did. And who doesn’t want more best friends? Jimmy’s Links: PaperFilms (@jpalmiotti) Killing Time in America (Kickstarter) Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

It’s time to dust off the microphones, plug in the earbuds, and see if the equipment still works. Yes, both Gutter Talk and Comic Fuel podcasts return, and in mashup fashion. In this episode, Adam Greenfield, host of Making Comics Gutter Talk, sits down with Patrick Yurick, host of Comic Fuel, to answer some questions that have sat around much longer than they deserved. All they wanted was a little attention. That’s all. Well, now they get it. Because there are many questions to get to, not all of them will be answered in this episode. But if you are one of the ones that sent in a question and didn’t hear yours in the next hour and twenty or so minutes, have no fear. Adam and Patrick are planning on sitting down and recording another episode and, if needed, will record yet another until all questions are answered. It is the least we in the podcast department here at Making Comics can do. In this episode you’ll also hear Adam provide a little reasoning behind why it’s almost April and this is the first episode of 2018, as well as Patrick talking about future plans with the Making Comics site. Oh, and “The Man from Kurosawa,” which… well, just listen. It’s better that way. Our info: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org

If you’re reading this but haven’t yet listened to the first half of the conversation between Adam Greenfield and Dean Haspiel, well, what you’re about to listen to probably won’t make sense. Therefore we highly suggest going here and listening to that first. Trust us, this episode will make more sense if you listen to the previous half first. If you’re one of those weirdos that reads the last chapter or page of a book before you read everything else, well, do your thing but we don’t trust you. Just sayin’. If you’ve listened to the first half and are ready to go, enjoy. Again, if you’re a weirdo and haven’t listened to the first half yet, you’ve been warned. [power press]

When Adam and Dean Haspiel first recorded a Gutter Talk episode, it was September of 2015. In those two years, plenty has happened for both. However, that’s still not the reason why, just as with the first time they spoke, this episode is also two hours long. In fact, it’s so long it had to be separated into two parts. You can find Part 2 here. As for the reasons why their talk went over two hours, well, the reasons vary widely. There’s what Baltimore Comic Con does right but what New York Comic Con does wrong. There’s the positives and negatives of being an artist in the digital world we find ourselves in. There’s also talk of fan entitlement when it comes to comics versus perhaps having a reason for their gripes. And all that’s only part of what Adam and Dean discussed. Again, this is the first half of the two hour conversation. The second half should already be in your podcast feed, or you can find it here in this separate post. No, we’re not trying to confuse you. Keep you on your toes, maybe. But not confuse you. Definitely not confuse you. In this case it may just be an unfortunate side effect, and for that we apologize. However, we won’t try to stop you if you want to head over to our Patreon page and help us figure out a way to make this not happen again. Dean’s Links: Dean’s site (@deanhaspiel) The Red Hook on Webtoons (The Red Hook) Harakiri Kane play Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

  Chaos. What is it good for? Absolutely nothin’. Well, now that we successfully planted that ear worm, today’s Making Comics Gutter Talk episode with Jessica Abel deals a lot with chaos and the things creative folk like us can do to not only minimize the chaos but (*GULP*) even get things accomplished, too. You know, like that comic you’ve been sitting on and tinkering away at here and there for the last seven years. Or one of the many short-lived attempts at something cool that you think you’ll eventually get back to… even though deep down you know you won’t. Okay, you get the picture. Point is, this podcast and Jessica’s latest book, Growing Gills, can help. We also take a brief look back at how Jessica became the teacher and artist she is. And if you ask her, which Adam did, if she considers herself an artist or a teacher, she’ll straight up tell you…. Wait, did you really think we’d just tell you what she said? Well, it was worth a shot. Take a listen to the podcast and find out. Also subscribe on iTunes or whatever podcast app you use. Be sure to rate us, give us a review, or even bake us some cookies. We wouldn’t turn away cookies. But most of all, it’s the rating and review we’re after. Jessica’s Links: Jessica’s site (@jccabel) Growing Gills (book) Audience building course on 9/10/17 Other books Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

In hopes of kickstarting some energy into the Making Comics Gutter Talk podcast, it was decided that a return to old guests will help. So this is the first episode in a new Gutter Talk venture, an alumni “Where Are They Now” series. In this first episode, Adam is re-joined by the amazing Lucy Bellwood, an artist, a writer, and even a sailor, based out of Portland, OR. The last time Adam and Lucy spoke was way, way back in January of 2015, nearly two and a half years prior to this talk, and at the time, Lucy was just starting to toss around the idea of doing a Kickstarter project for a Baggywrinkles book. Well, since that time, not only did she start and fund that project, she’s just finishing up yet another Kickstarter project that was also funded, and this time in about 24 hours. Yes, that sound was your jaw hitting the floor. We’ll wait for you to pick it up…. Listen in as Adam and Lucy discuss her pride and joy and struggles and fears with not just her current endeavor, the 100 Demon Dialogues, but also with being an artist on an overall level. From self-care to the financial burdens and planning as a freelance and independent artist, all of it is in play. Also be sure to subscribe on iTunes and give us a rating and review if you haven’t already. Lucy’s links: Lucy’s site (@lubellwoo) 100 Demon Dialogues Kickstarter project Crowdcast “Demons and Monsters” talk with Jessica Abel Conosaurus (not Lucy’s site but discussed in the show) Light Grey Art Lab residency (discussed in the show) Emily Cheeseman’s diagram (discussed in the show) Our links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

The last time you heard from us in the Making Comics Gutter Talk headquarters, it was Halloween and we were having a lively discussion with Stephen Bissette. Well, it’s now Earth Day, six months later, and we’re finally putting out another episode. We know, we missed you all, too. But the hope is we’re now back to at least one episode per month and if more time can be unearthed, we’ll bump things back up to two episodes a month. But all in due time, friends. All in due time. We promise. As for this episode, Adam sits down for a second recording with artist and creator Megan James. She is the mind and skill behind Innsmouth, a magical story that is part Lovecraft, part Book of Mormon, and has fish people. That’s definitely on you if you don’t find that exciting. Adam and Megan actually spoke late last year but life has a funny way of becoming an obstacle to things and the conversation was shelved. However, Adam made sure when he returned to the scene, Megan had to be the first guest and a new conversation was to be had. The topics in this episode range from figuring how to lay out a page for maximum effect, comedy or otherwise, to finding a ton of usefulness in taking a scriptwriting class. If you’d like to support us and help keep Making Comics Worldwide going and allow us to do cool things like sending out the Daily Challenge, please go to our Patreon page (click HERE) and join our Patreon community. Support good people, people! Megan’s Links: Megan’s site (@meg_emmy_james) Innsmouth (Sink/Swim Press store) Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

We may have said this before and if so, we feel it is definitely worth repeating. Wow, it is so darn educational and amazing to speak with someone who has been in the comics industry for so darn long. This is why every Halloween, Adam looks forward to speaking with one of his favorite Making Comics Gutter Talk guests, Stephen Bissette. For the third year in a row, Stephen dispels humor, knowledge, and all around good times. When Stephen talks about the history of comics, he’s not just talking about what has happened in the past. That side of the timeline has been well-documented and will forever be. In this episode Stephen does talk about the past but he also is sure to talk about the history of comics as both the present and the future. This also includes when he is teaching young, impressionable minds at the Center for Cartoon Studies in White River Junction, VT. And yet when his students challenge him on a topic, Stephen becomes the student in order to return to being a more effective teacher. In the example he gave, a student challenged him on Native American comics and culture. This caused Stephen to do his own homework, a great example that no matter who we speak with, we can never stop learning. To open the Gutter Talk episode, just as we have done in previous Halloween episodes, we have a reading of an Edgar Allen Poe story. This year’s story was “The Cask of Amontillado” and was read by a horror master in his own right, Vincent Price. Boy, Poe sure does like burying things in his stories, huh? Happy Halloween! Stephen’s Links: Stephen’s website (@SRBissette) Center for Cartoon Studies Our Links: “The Dracula Files” by Storyforge Productions Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

The world these days is far from easy to understand. Sometimes there’s an answer and sometimes there isn’t. And sometimes, it takes all we have to find a way to even try to comprehend everything. But perhaps that’s where art comes into play. Maybe, just maybe, our sight becomes a little clearer when we break it down into more of an expression than trying to fit a round understanding in a square hole. In the case of The Little Red Fish by Bizhan Khodabandeh and James Moffit, a simple, yet powerful story is told and it’s all inspired by the Iranian revolution in 1979. Nah, that’s not complicated to explain. In this Making Comics Gutter Talk episode, Adam is joined by Bizhan and James to discuss how this story came about and what makes this story have such an impact. There’s also something to be said about the use of animals as the characters, a la Animal Farm by George Orwell, which is another side of the story Adam and his guests dive into. Following this discussion, Adam and Bizhan are left to their own devices as they discuss another project Bizhan was a part of. It involves violence between civilians and police, and soon the conversation turns to a more personal experience for both Adam and Bizhan. In the end, both host and guest ensure the audience they are far from experts on the subject and only drives home the point that there simply is no easy or right answer to the burning, violent questions we face as humans today. But at least there’s comics! Bizhan’s Links: Bizhan’s site (@MendedArrow) “The Little Black Fish” comic James’s Links: Sink/Swim Press (@sinkswimrva) Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

“This is the real secret of life — to be completely engaged with what you are doing in the here and now. And instead of calling it work, realize it is play.”  – Alan Watts As we walk out into the world we are entering a story. This story defines us and the way that we interact with our beliefs, actions, society, etc. As much as we are always entering into the story that others have defined for us, we are also given the gift of writing our own story in every action we take. This month I sat down with Rachel Beck, founder of Storyforge Productions, and we discussed the nuances of story telling. We looked at our society and how we are working to rectify our long history with marginalizing females – specifically in the comic industry. We also looked at the basic construction of worlds and characters and how those construction create compelling reasons that keep us reading. Reflecting on the talk I am reminded that complications are what keep us interested in the world around us. As comic artists we create fiction where our character confront and battle those contradictions. Theoretically that gives us the inspiration to fight our own demons. That’s what the #ComicFuel show is all about right? For us to join together to turn away from just consuming art and to bring us into the battle – the battle to create art. So get out your pens and papers. Sit down. Join us as Rachel and I provide the fuel you are going to need for the coming battle. Jump times to go to different parts of the podcast: * (00:00:00) Alan Watts on Play & Work * (00:03:20) Introduction To Show * (00:13:20) Question 1 – Female Comic Creators * (00:46:20) AudioFuel – Maya Angelou “And I Rise” * (00:50:00) Question 2 – Tension & Resolution * (01:02:00) Question 3 – Character Driven Storytelling * (01:19:00) Question 3.5 – Scenarios * (01:27:40) AudioFuel – Morgan Freeman recites Invictus * (01:30:40) Question 4 – Drawing As A Writer * (01:48:30) AudioFuel – Alan Watts on the State Of Nothing * (01:59:20) Question 5 – Onomatopoeias * (02:05:20) Question 6 – Short & Sweet * (02:13:00) Show Outro * Let me know what you think of the show by tweeting @patrickyurick * Please consider supporting us so that more episodes of the show can be released by donating at $1+ to the show on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/makingcomics * As always – the entire show notes catalog is on the Comic Fuel Wiki: http://comicfuel.wikidot.com/wiki:episode-5 Songs Used * Patreon Info Segment:“Story To Fall Through” by Dr. Turtle, used under CC BY / Desaturated from original * Intro & Outro Songs:“Unexpected Hoedown In Bagging Area” by Dr. Turtle, used under CC BY / Desaturated from original * #Comic/Audio Fuel Segments * “The Kid In The Bins” by Dr. Turtle, used under CC BY / Desaturated from original Audio Fuel Used * Desaturated from

One of the great things about attending comic conventions of all sizes is meeting people from all over. Because of its sheer size and international draw, it’s actually pretty hard to not meet someone new from far off places while at San Diego Comic Con. At least far off from where you are. If you want to get all Inception on the topic, you are far off to those people you find far off. But we digress. In this Making Comics Gutter Talk episode, Adam is joined by Australian artist and creator Cristian Roux, whom he met while peddling a book of poetry at easily one of the largest comic conventions in the world. Cristian was drawn to the table by the amazing work of Ted Washington and began conversations with both Ted and Adam, both of which were equally impressed with Cristian’s work. By the time Cristian left the table, Ted pretty much made up his mind that he was taking Puna Press to Australia for their comic and zine conventions and Adam made up his mind to ensure Cristian was added to the long list of stellar guests on the Gutter Talk podcast. We also would be remiss in pointing out this episode is our 100th episode. From the bottom of our ink-filled hearts, we want to thank not only the talented guests we’ve had on the podcast and panels over the last two-plus years but we also want to thank you, the listener. Whether you’ve been with us since the beginning or this is your very first Gutter Talk episode, thank you for being a part of this creative endeavor. We do this for you. The website, the podcast, the Daily Challenge, all of it. A world without art and the knowledge it takes to create art is not a world any of the Making Comics Worldwide staff wants to be a part of. This is why educating the masses is so darn important to us. Thank you for being a part of our world. Cristian’s Links: Cristian’s site (@woohooroo) Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org

“…it ain’t about how hard ya hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.”  Rocky Balboa’s inspirational speech to his son in the 2006 installment into the Rocky franchise is definitely the inspiration for this show. There’re a lot of projects I work on right. Art, design, and educational experiences I am currently slaving away over. I spend a lot of time, and incur a good deal of mental anguish, trying to figure out what the “right” thing to do is as a day job. When Rocky talks about taking hits, in my context that is all about my own personal demons regarding my design process. My own shadow/devil on my shoulder telling me I’m wasting my time. Last month, I’ll be honest, I almost considered #ComicFuel a waste of my time. Three episodes in and I was ready to give up. I almost didn’t finish episode 3. Even during the process of doing it, I didn’t want to finish it. I did finish, barely, and then I swore to myself that I wasn’t going to do another episode the same way again (if I did another episode). So I called Adam and asked him to record a quick episode where we powered through a ton of questions. It turned into a longer episode. As I sat down with Adam Greenfield this week to record the fourth episode of #ComicFuel I was reminded why I do this. Sure, this episode is WAY too long ( cough-2hoursand14minutes-cough ), but who cares? I got to sit down with my friend and answer some student questions and talk about how to practice art. In my ideal retirement scenario I would spend every day doing this. I was reminded that MakingComics.com is the purely “good” thing that I have in my life. For me this is the one sacred space in this whole universe where everything we do is just good. We aren’t always active, or on time with our products, and they aren’t always produced with the kind of quality I’d like – but at their core they are good. We’ve made decision after decision to not turn this into a project that will go anywhere (i.e we are staying here for good). It isn’t a startup business – it is a public service. That is what makes it “good”. It hasn’t been tainted by the threats of being economically unviable – because it isn’t. I thought I was done after my 2 hour session with Adam. Then…   …I said to myself – I’m not going to do Audio Fuel this month. Monday I mixed the two hour long episode and then I saw a tweet to me that I missed: @patrickyurick haven’t listened yet to #ComicFuel 3 but can I just say thank you in advance? — Heavy Load Comic (@HeavyLoadStory) July 13, 2016 So I responded: @HeavyLoadStory Did you listen to it? Ep4 drops Friday

Always remember: You are unique… just like everyone else. Ok, but seriously. There really is something to be said about originality, and Adam and his terrific guest, Gerhard Ka’aihue, have a lot to say about being original in this Making Comics Gutter Talk episode. Sure, fan art is great, and even better when its purpose is to help you, the artist, hone in on your skills and voice. Still, should that be marketed as your own? Is it your intellectual property to do what you wish with it? To Gerhard, it can be a very fine line to walk. Yet when it comes to Gerhard’s work, it’s all original, all the time. From his recent comic “Stella Noir” to his graphic illustrations that are eye-popping and brilliantly composed, Gerhard walks his own line between stunning art and simply being productive for productive sake. And isn’t that what being an artist is about? The ABC of art? Yes, always be creating. Sure, he may have a day job and family responsibilities but Gerhard is quite satisfied with that arrangement. In fact, it’s what he wants. His job as a marketing director still taps into that creative part of the brain so the juices are constantly on flow. And while you’re listening to this stellar Gutter Talk episode, feel free to take a break from your own work and head over to our Patreon page and support us. But not if you’re driving. Please, if you are behind the wheel at the moment, keep your eyes on the road. Heck, if you’re driving, why are you even reading this?! Gerhard’s Links: Gerhard’s site (@kaaihue) Instagram Our Links: Intro & Outro Song: “RetroFuture Clean” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: “Backed Vibes (clean)” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org