#78 Claire Ashman | Growing up in a Cult, Finding the Courage to Get Out and “Re-learning” the World

Summary: Claire Ashman spent the first 36 years of her life in two different strict religious movements. After defying her husband, the cult “leader” and the entire group by asking too many questions, Claire and her family found themselves evicted from the infamous ‘Order of St Charbel’ religious group. Claire takes us through the whole roller coaster journey, going deep on what goes on in religious cults and how ‘leaders’ manage to convince people of their power and trust their guidance. The most intriguing part of our chat is when Claire details her transition back into ‘normal’ life. When you’ve been brought up on a completely different reality, how do you cope? If you don’t attend church on Sunday, will the world implode?