Leading by the SPIRIT of the Law or the LETTER of the Law | An Interview with Jason Hunt




Leading Saints Podcast show

Summary: Jason Hunt has a PhD in endocrine physiology and teaches pre-med classes at Brigham Young University-Idaho. He is currently serving as a young single adult bishop and has previously served in a stake presidency and a bishopric.<br> <br> Highlights<br> 7:15 Culture and rules are not doctrinal<br> 9:20 Keyholder applications are different from personal applications<br> 11:00 Elder Bednar’s concept of applications: Doctrines are statements. Principles are embedded in the doctrines and tell us what we should do. They never change. Applications change.<br> 14:50 Keyholder applications hold true when the keyholder is saying them and would apply to those who are within their responsibility, and they do not extend beyond<br> 18:10 Cultural norms are applications that have extended beyond their boundaries<br> 19:00 How you view these cultural norms depends on your personal moral theory. The most common are:<br> <br> * Consequential theorist: consequences<br> * Obligation theorist: rules<br> * Divine theorist: what God has said<br> * Egoist: personal priorities<br> <br> 25:00 The best leadership should be able to move between these theories<br> 27:30 When you understand these moral frameworks, how different people respond to the culture makes more sense. Cognitive development also applies.<br> 30:30 Jason’s experience considering the story of Noah<br> 34:30 It’s important to be open and talk about things, even if you don’t have the answers<br> 36:30 Stephen R. Covey: Listen with the intent to understand, not to answer<br> 39:30 Pornography, brain addiction science, and the bladder comparison. Identify the justifications. Ensure they trust and are comfortable and willing to share.<br> 44:00 The response depends again on the personal moral theories of everyone involved<br> 47:00 The Holy Ghost knows what needs to happen and we can be open to that and understand that there can be different consequences for different people<br> 47:40 Have empathy for people with different moral theories and respect them for their approach<br> 49:00 The divine command theorist must be doctrinally grounded or there can be misapplication within the culture. Examples that happen in a YSA ward.<br> 53:20 Egoism: put the mask on first<br> 55:30 When you are working with a leader who is coming from a different moral framework there will be friction and it requires greater empathy. We have to learn to step into different quadrants and embrace the differences of opinion<br> 58:45 A mission is not a saving ordinance. The temple is the culminating event with the saving ordinances and that is where the focus needs to be.<br> 1:00:10 Jason’s motorcycle example compared to technology use: youth do not have the ability to utilize their agency, so they need stages of responsibility<br> Links<br> Series of books by David A. Bednar:<br> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Increase-Learning-Spiritual-Patterns-Obtaining/dp/160908943X" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Increase in Learning - Spiritual Patterns for Obtaining Your Own Answers</a><br> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Act-Doctrine-David-Bednar/dp/1609072278/7C" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Act in Doctrine - Spiritual Patterns for Turning from Self to the Savior</a><br> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Power-Become-David-Bednar/dp/1609078594/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Power to Become - Spiritual Patterns for Pressing Forward with a Steadfastness in Christ</a>