Summary: Steven Rinella talks with Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard and Janis Putelis. Subjects discussed: Botching people’s names; fishing with a single fly forever; 18 strands of white stallion tail; Steve being good at libraries; feeling the current with your testicles; taking kids fishing on the Crow reservation; riding out an avalanche and burying a dead friend; being an asshole when you start out and an asshole when you get back; Yvon in jail; Jani on karma; "Fuck Mars"; and more. themeateater.com
