What Latter-day Saint Youth Leaders Need to Understand About LGBT Youth | An Interview with Brittany Ellis




Leading Saints Podcast show

Summary: Interview transcript is available below<br> <br> Brittany Ellis grew up in Riverside, California, and realized as a young woman that she experiences same-sex attraction. She lives in the Los Angeles area with her husband of ten years and their two children and is in school studying American Sign Language interpretation. In this interview, Brittany and Kurt talk about her journey as an SSA woman and how youth leaders can better approach the subject and work with SSA youth.<br> Highlights<br> 10:10 Brittany’s experience realizing she is attracted to women<br> 11:45 Buried her feelings and decided to focus on being a strong member of the Church<br> 12:00 At age 15, admitted it to her best friends and tried talking to her bishop<br> 13:25 Her bishop’s response did not help<br> 14:10 Dated a lot and eventually met her husband<br> 16:10 Experience dating her husband<br> 17:00 Wanted to turn to her bishop for support as a youth but figured it would be useless so she tried to deal with it on her own<br> 17:55 Loving her husband made him attractive<br> 19:00 Didn’t talk about her SSA as a couple for seven years of marriage but eventually worked on it together and individually with the help of a therapist<br> 20:05 The rollercoaster ride is still there but no longer includes shame<br> 20:55 She journals and uses humor to make it easier and to manage her feelings<br> 21:35 Her husband’s desire to learn and understand has made him a good listener and partner<br> 23:05 We all have a void but the gospel helps fill it<br> 24:35 Like many others, she thought she was the only woman married to a man and dealing with SSA<br> 25:25 Her involvement with North Star International<br> 26:00 Terrified to go to the first conference<br> 26:55 North Star has helped her make many friends and the workshops at the conferences have been a great, always-positive resource<br> 28:15 North Star is now doing regional activities throughout the year<br> 30:00 Discussion of LGBT youth in the Church:<br> 30:20 Poem she wrote at age 15<br> 32:00 Just saying it out loud makes it real<br> 33:25 Vulnerability hangover: it’s freeing to talk about it, but then fearful thoughts come and are overwhelming<br> 34:40 We need to have these hard conversations at church so that we can support the youth<br> 35:20 The vulnerability hangover still happens as an adult<br> 37:10 Leaders need to understand that SSA is not a sin<br> 38:10 No reason these youth cannot participate in activities in the Church and even serve a mission<br> 38:45 As leaders, our job is to help the youth feel the Spirit, which won’t happen if they aren’t there<br> 39:35 Important that the youth can take the lead and establish communication, and for leaders to do it if the youth aren’t ready for that<br> 41:50 Ask them what they need from you and follow their lead<br> 43:50 The youth don’t have a problem with their gay peers. It’s the adults who are concerned.<br> 45:15 Experiencing SSA doesn’t mean they are perverted or attracted to everyone<br> 47:00 Building barriers actually gives the issue power<br> 47:45 Example of leaders and parents overreacting, but the youth weren’t uncomfortable at all<br> 49:05 It’s good to have a connection and include the youth instead of excluding them<br> 50:15 Example of an SSA youth with a girlfriend: establish the rules but don’t prevent them from being there and feeling the Spirit<br> 51:45 Love them even if they aren’t making the best choices. Make the boundaries universal for all youth, not just SSA youth.<br> 53:05 Loving the youth and being inclusive isn’t condoning. Have the awkward conversations.<br> 55:00 It's okay to love your gay child who marries a same-sex partner. If we don’t stay connected to them, who will invite the Spirit into their life?<br> 57:10 Easier to leave the door open for them as a youth than waiting until they are adults a...