Good, Better, Best of the Addiction Recovery Program | An Interview with Brad Barber




Leading Saints Podcast show

Summary: "It is not enough that something is good. Other choices are better, and still others are best."<br> —<a href="https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2007/10/good-better-best?lang=eng" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dallin H. Oaks</a><br> Brad Barber co-hosts <a href="https://thenextsteppodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Next Step Podcast</a>, which is based around the Church's Addiction Recovery Program and addiction in general. He grew up in the Church in southern California, served a mission, and attended Brigham Young University. Brad has seen many friends caught in addiction and became involved with ARP after hearing podcast co-host Jay's testimony of the program and wondering why there weren't ARP addiction meetings in his area.<br> Highlights<br> 6:45 How Brad got involved with ARP and started The Next Step Podcast<br> 12:00 Setting up the ARP program is supposed to start with the stake<br> 12:20 A facilitator who is an addict in recovery should be leading the meetings<br> 12:50 Leaders who have not been through the process do not know what addicts have gone through and addicts can tell<br> 13:30 A sponsor is a person who is in sobriety from addiction<br> 14:55 At first, addicts categorize themselves against each other until they realize everyone's struggles are the same, but anyone who has experienced addiction can facilitate for others experiencing different types of addiction<br> 15:45 Quote from the intro of the ARP manual (in LDS Tools) about what addiction is<br> 17:00 Some statistics about addictions that go beyond alcohol, drugs, and pornography<br> 18:10 "Atonement Realization Program" because the 12 Steps walk you through the Atonement to improve yourself<br> 18:40 Elder Oaks' talk, "Good, Better, Best": Have people been lifted, encouraged, and changed?<br> 20:15 A 12-Step meeting is different than counseling, but ARP is organized under LDS Family Services<br> 20:35 Meetings usually start from the bottom up, where a family member starts a group after discovering the program exists<br> 21:05 The 12 Steps were invented by the founders of Alcoholics Anonymous in the 1930's<br> 21:40 Good: There are ARP meetings in the stake, and ward leaders are aware of them<br> 22:15 Group leaders are generally not addicts in recovery, and need to be a person who has no judgment toward others<br> 23:50 Brad's advice to group leaders: Don't show up dressed like a missionary or pretend to be something you are not<br> 24:45 Better: Passionate group leaders who coordinate with other group leaders<br> 25:25 Invite leaders to go to a meeting and challenge them to not be afraid of what other people might think<br> 27:00 Some do's and don'ts about attending a meeting:<br> <br> * Introduce yourself by first name only<br> * Resist the urge to share your testimony<br> <br> 29:50 Better: Have meetings with a varying mix of people at stages of sobriety to help support the participants<br> 30:25 It's the responsibility of group leaders to find those addicts in recovery and get them to come<br> 30:55 Bishops have a responsibility to help identify those people and connect them to ARP<br> 32:35 It's the purpose of sponsors to follow-up and that's how to maintain sobriety<br> 33:30 Spouses also need to understand that sobriety isn't the end<br> 34:20 Better: Have your bishops attend ARP meetings<br> 35:25 Treat the ARP meetings the same as self-reliance meetings and attend a full 12-week course to really understand the power of these steps<br> 36:30 In ARP, everyone shares their experience instead of listening to an "expert"<br> 37:00 Story: everyone can benefit from learning the 12 Steps<br> 37:50 Better: Persons who have done the 12 Steps are now supporting others<br> 38:05 "What gets you sober won't keep you sober"<br> 39:50 Best: You have facilitators who have broken anonymity<br>