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Summary: DeRay, Sam, Brittany and Clint discuss Ben Carson, the debate around Rikers Island, factoring adversity into the SAT's, and how the War on Drugs has prevented Black men from obtaining college degrees. Danielle Sered joins DeRay to talk about her book, 'Until We Reckon: Violence, Mass Incarceration, and a Road to Repair."