Introverts in the LDS Church | An Interview with Adam McHugh




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Summary: Interview Transcript Available Below<br> <br> <a href="http://www.adamsmchugh.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Adam McHugh</a> is a spiritual director, chaplain, speaker, and retreat leader. The author of <a href="https://amzn.to/2pISwnQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture</a>, he is an ordained Presbyterian minister, having earned a Masters of Divinity and Masters of Theology in Greek New Testament from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the author of The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction, and lives in Santa Barbara, California.<br> Episode Highlights<br> 4:30 Becoming an ordained minister<br> 7:30 What led to writing Introverts in the Church<br> 10:50 Explanation of introversion and extroversion<br> 16:00 Problems that introverts experience at church<br> 19:00 Understanding the discomfort of personal vulnerability and sharing beliefs as an expression of faith<br> 22:00 Introverts generally prefer depth over breadth<br> 24:00 The power of listening: experience at a hospital<br> 30:00 Introverts and small talk<br> 34:00 How introverts approach dealing with conflict and decisions<br> 40:00 Silence, reverence, and the internal experience compared to active social environments<br> 45:20 Cultural clash of introvert and extrovert leaders: overcoming stereotypes and encouraging introverts to be leaders<br> 48:50 Reaching out to invite introverts to participate<br> Links<br> <br> * <a href="http://www.adamsmchugh.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Adam's Website</a><br> * <a href="https://amzn.to/2pISwnQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture</a><br> * <a href="https://amzn.to/2DWxyqI" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction</a><br> <br> Interview Transcript<br> LS: Today we are communicating with Adam McHugh in California. How are you, Adam?<br> <br> ADAM: Doing very well. How about yourself?<br> <br> LS: Very good. Did I say your last name correctly?<br> <br> ADAM: You got it.<br> <br> LS: All right. Very nice, very nice. Now, you are, tell us (00:04:00) a little bit about what we need about know about you. The big thing I guess on this podcast we generally have LDS or Mormons on as guests, but you are not a Mormon. So what are you?<br> <br> ADAM: It is true. I am an ordained Presbyterian minister. Though in truth I go to an Episcopal church.<br> <br> LS: Nice.<br> <br> ADAM: But I was ordained in the Presbyterian church about 12 years ago.<br> <br> LS: Nice. And so what is the, when you say you're ordained, (00:04:30) what does that mean? Does that mean you went to seminary for awhile or what does that even mean?<br> <br> ADAM: It means they made me jump through about a thousand hoops, is basically what that means. I went to Princeton theological seminary and that is required for ordination, not Princeton. But going to seminary, getting a master's of divinity. I also stuck around for another year and got a masters of theology and Greek New Testament as well and had to do 2 church internships and one internship at a hospital as a chaplain, was actually (00:05:00) very instrumental in my future calling. And yeah. And then I had to go to about a thousand meetings in order to get approved.<br> <br> LS: Wow. Wow. Intense.<br> <br> ADAM: It was a, I would never do it again. I'm glad I was young when I went through all that because now it sounds exhausting.<br> <br> LS: So does that mean, I mean, your day to day or are you some type of pastor to a church or what's your day to day job now?<br> <br> ADAM: I have the title now, you know, writer and speaker and retreat leader (00:05:30) is really how I identify myself and certainly connected to churches and...