Summary: Andy’s latest stop is Sunderland where, despite chill autumn winds and two successive relegations, things are looking up. He stops for a chat with David Rose, the FSF’s deputy chief executive and lifelong Sunderland fan, on how the club’s new owners have built stronger links with the supporters, what good his new Red and White Army supporters group are doing in the community and - as fellow fans Peter Daykin and Jonathan Wilson chip in - why life outside the Premier League really isn’t that bad. For information regarding your data privacy, visit <a href="https://www.acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a>
