Summary: I'm sorry for laughing for 3 minutes in the beginning. Bret gave the least charismatic podcast intro I've ever heard and, well, I couldn't help it. Great episode, however. Lotta bickering. Deep strategy talk. If you like Jordan and/or Bret Raybould, please go check out their YouTube channel "The Raybould Brothers" featuring sketches that they wrote, acted-in, and produced.
