Summary: Last week we tackled the topic of natural hair, discrimination, and the law. This week discuss an important and related issue—colorism. Professor Trina Jones, a Professor at Duke Law School and leading expert on colorism, joined us to discuss this often debated and misunderstood topic. In the episode, Professor Jones defines colorism (12:00) and provides insight into its history in the United States and abroad (13:35). We also discuss colorism in marketing, entertainment and politics (18:50), whether light skinned people are more advantaged, on average, than darker skinned people (28:40), how colorism impacts lighter skinned people (34:25), how to have productive conversations about colorism without creating a divide (35:48 and 38:10), and fighting colorism within the legal system (53:34) . Other Topics Include: 4:10 - Colorism and the Breakfast Club 10:30 - Professor Trina Jones’ background 22:12 - Do white people notice skin tone differences than blacks? Colorism vs. Racism 44:30 and 51:25 - Are we moving away from the one-drop rule? 1:02:50 - Colorism in non-black and international communities 1:10:00 - Ty and Daphne reflect on the interview Resources: Professor Trina Jone’s Research academic page: https://law.duke.edu/fac/jones/ Shades of Brown: The Law of Skin Color- https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/57a7/421ab99686d752dd672d353c2404cf5c3a2c.pdf Ellis Monk’s skin tone research - http://www.ellismonk.com/research.html Hunter, Margaret. (2007). The Persistent Problem of Colorism: Skin Tone, Status, and Inequality. Blackwell Publishing Ltd Sociology Compass Espino and Franz Hill Hughes and Hertel Keith and Herring Murguia and Telles. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b494/dfa711f2d4869c7c15a7adf9b99a0dbbccb4.pdf Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) - https://www.eeoc.gov/employees/charge.cfm Dark Girls Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GeGRulqYE Light Girls Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDns0nLvHW4
