21 | RYAN HOLIDAY: Passion, Controversy, and the Demise of Gawker




OFF RCRD with Cory Levy show

Summary: Ryan Holiday (@RyanHoliday) has never shied away from controversy, from leaving school at the age of 19 against his parent’s wishes to casting porn stars in commercials as the young marketing director of American Apparel. It has worked in his favor as he has risen the corporate ranks and then gone on to write over a half dozen books including Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator, The Obstacle is the Way, and Ego Is the Enemy. When it comes to giving others career advice, Ryan cautions against following your passion. “The common career advice is find your passion, and that can somewhat be dangerous, right? Just because you're passionate about something, doesn't mean that you're good at it, said Ryan in his interview with Cory Levy on OFF RCRD. Cory Levy (After School, Internapalooza) spoke with Ryan about his journey as a controversial young marketing director and successful author on the OFF RCRD Podcast. Ryan’s newest book goes behind the scenes of the groundbreaking Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker case involving a famous sex tape and Peter Thiel who got involved by paying for Hogan’s lawyers. The book, Conspiracy: Peter Thiel, Hulk Hogan, Gawker, and the Anatomy of Intrigue, is now available on Amazon. One piece of advice given during the interview by Ryan is that young people should work on mastering their personal life along with growing professionally. “If your personal life is a mess, it's going to show when you show up for work and people are going to be wary of you.” By putting time and care into their personal life, a job or mentorship candidate will be able to better perform in that position and minimize distractions that could impact their work. Also discussed during the talk between Cory and Ryan was the Bollea (Hulk Hogan) vs. Gawker court case. Ryan had unique opportunities to interview both sides of the case, including Peter Thiel, who paid for Hulk Hogan’s legal expenses. Hear more about his book and get more tips from Ryan Holiday by listening to the full episode here on OFF RCRD. New interviews are published each Tuesday. Connect with us on Twitter @OFFRCRD.