Summary: How is DevOps actually panning out in organizations? In this episode recorded at SpringOne Platform, Kenny Bastani and I talk with Matt Curry about his talk on putting DevOps in place. We discuss how being more open in conversations helps build trust, shifting to a product-centric approach, and some ideas about scaling DevOps. Also, we discuss the idea of "is DevOps actually real," a favorite topic of Coté's. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast
