Summary: <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Chuck Z sober in 1953 speaking at an unknown meeting in 1984</span></p><br> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><img src="//sobercast.podbean.com/mf/web/88k68q/q4.png" alt="q4.png" width="125" height="37"></span></p>