Summary: <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Mark H and Dave F discuss how important the first step is not only to starting the program but to maintaining sobreity. T</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;">here is also a discussion about working with those who relapse often.</span></p><br> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><img src="//sobercast.podbean.com/mf/web/88k68q/q4.png" alt="q4.png" width="125" height="37"></span></p><br> <p> </p>
