Summary: He aha te mea nui o te ao What is the most important thing in the world? He tangata, he tangata, he tangata It is the people, it is the people, it is the people - Maori proverb I doubt we'll ever have another Olympic Goalkeeper from the New Zealand Soccer Team on the show but John clearly uses the opportunity to flex his Kiwi accent. Truth is, John and Michael O'Keeffe have been good friends since college. Michael produced the documentary about John Kelly that we mentioned last episode. John and Michael discuss the emotions of filming the documentary - it was less than a year after John Kelly passed. We close with a conversation of the link between sports and mental illness. Random talk on swimming from New Zealand to Australia.
