Summary: Listen HERE Here is that debate between Gary Francione and Dario Ringach that I talked about http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/debate-the-use-of-nonhuman-animals-in-biomedical-research-a-moral-justification/ Here is the video of the debate. The sound is TERRIBLE someone didn't turn off their darn cell phone >:( But despite that it's worth a listen just grin and bear it. It's worth it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OMtRiD3oI Thank you for listening