![Arrested DevOps show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/066/281/small/arrested-devops.png)
Summary: If you build, deploy, and operate software in production, you have a platform. Andrew Clay Shafer and Kelsey Hightower discuss different choices available in the platform space, from unstructured to structured with all the considerations along the road to operational maturity.