232: Pagans Want Predators (Part 1)




Pagan Centered Podcast show

Summary: Tonight we begin to discuss the topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away. In fact, we highlight how Pagans actually attract predators through their organizations, organizational structure and poor community relations. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer! 01:45Definition of Sexual Predator 03:11Brandan Myers' statement of community sexual abuse 03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards 03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice 03:11Branden Myers' statement of community sexual abuse 03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards 03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice 04:28Gruesome murder of Wiccan woman by allegedly Wiccan male 04:57Don Reimer is dead! 05:21Back on topic so folks don't go Don Reimer on us 08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration 06:35Drama surrounding the statement 08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration 09:09The importance of basic overviews to law enforcement etc. 09:50Community sexual statement as a public overview 10:38People will abuse lack of knowledge/misinformation to their advantage 10:57Pagan community paints a target on itself for predators to find 11:37Predators know they can abuse Pagans without much retribution 12:11Solidarity, when it goes too far 12:54Predators vs. brotherhood 13:33Pagans are gunshy as a result of intolerance they have experienced that they do not want to express any intolerance to predatory behavior 14:42Anyone using the phrase "witch war" is full of derp. 15:12Adults telling parents they don't need to tell their parents about XYZ is a warning sign 16:26Counteract weirdness with transparency 19:01Brainhurt goes here. 16:56Coven membership paperwork having a clause that they are not affiliated with any law enforcement agency 17:38Being a predator using a religion to cloak one's actions and portray them as normal etc. vs. sincerely practicing a religion 18:34Covens effectively promoting 28 year olds having sex with 5 year olds. 19:01Brainhurt goes here. 19:37My penis says we're soulmates 20:07Pagans leaving groups because of members preventing statutory rape. 22:50This all highlights that the drama surrounding the community sex statement is not caused by Patheos, and that's a bit sad. 23:51When one's decision making processess are impaired due to metaphysics 27:52Deity and Trust, Deities have too much free time. 28:10The news story that triggered our many months long research into this topic 29:34Penn State child sex scandal 30:35@AngryBlackLady reference 31:28How people justify this crap and why the slutwalk movement is needed 32:34You MUST be wrong! I'll make up a reason! 32:56Woman who went crazy because people are naturist 33:38Nudity != sexual 34:26The culture has so many hangups that they have so many more problems dealing with issues in a healthy way 34:40People being unable to cope with issues in a healthy way cannot handle the fruits and nuts in a healthy way 35:00We don't NEED to stick together anymore 35:38I don't mind being embarassed being seen with you in public, but I don't want to go to jail for being seen with you in Pagan 35:58Clarification on the Pagans don't need eachother anymore comment from a few minutes ago 39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level 36:17Time for quality control in our communities 36:54The ABCDEF 45:31Library promoting this predatory behavior as a means of being more accepting of Pagans. 37:17Summary of the early draft of the statement. 38:59If you are afraid of something, you probably shouldn't do it 39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level