Summary: This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt. This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, NRia of Pagan Men 02:20Joe's 2 friends that talked about each other to him and then they ganged up on him. 02:41Joe hates hypocracy 02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay. 03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often. 02:41Joe hates hypocracy 02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay. 03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often. 03:27How Joe is fixing his emotional issues 04:05Community drama is the end result of individuals being hurt 05:03What is Trust? 07:12What is friendship? Are there different types of friends? 06:00Are there different types of trust? 07:12What is friendship? Are there different types of friends? 09:37Community! The context in which friendships occur. 09:53Trust as it relates to friendship, the topic that got Patheos management's panties in a twist 10:23People aren't all good, people aren't all bad 10:53Example of someone you like but do not trust 12:38People you trust but do not like 13:23Joe doesn't blindly like Marines anymore 14:40When capabilities and personalities clash 16:01Having friends you can't afford to be close to anymore 16:54Confronting people you can't be around anymore 17:47Being Hurt, ways of having trust broken 17:58If you you are ever more than 50% sure you are right, you are wrong 20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions 18:27Humans are not made to find truth, they are made to win. 19:29Abuse of trust, one way of having trust broken 20:17Dave has no tolerance for lies 20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions 21:32Using friends for professional gain, see episode 214 21:49Using friends can be a good thing though in some circumstances where they are a willing party 22:30Abusing trust: exceeding boundaries of your friendship 22:45Abusing trust: forced physical activity 23:04Abusing trust: forced insertion into awkward social situation 24:01Laughter as strees release 24:30Pushing people slightly outside their boundaries can be good, pushing very far can be bad 27:43Trollbait 28:01Define trollbait 28:48Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as it relates to trolling 29:30DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN 30:03Example of Epic Trolling 31:22South Park as it relates to Z. Budapest 35:53How are the genetic requirements being enforced? 37:22Pagan Men obligatory ad 38:18How do we deal with people that break trust with us? 39:03What about friends who have had trust broken with them? 43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen? 39:42Don't make yourself stupid in the face of strong evidence 40:08Feel welcome to leave from being between two friends 45:53Derpiness example 40:48Case Study: LA Riots 41:41Emotional but justified response 43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen? 45:27People lose their checks and balances when they lose their doubt 45:37Derp and emotional rage 45:53Derpiness example 46:30Reductio ad adsurdum for gender-specific rituals 47:52Genetic requirements? There better be genetic testing! 48:53Time helps with conflict, and most people thought this cis vs. trans conflict was resolved 49:23Are women more discriminatory against trans than men? 49:55Expecting Pagan leaders to grow balls? 50:13Z Budapest is not alone, but the way Pantheacon handled the situation was poor. Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned:
