250: Singularitarians and UFOlogists




C-Realm Podcast show

Summary: http://crealm.libsyn.com/250-singularitarians-and-uf-ologists Larry Lowe talks with Nikki Olson, a Singularitarian blogger who attended the 20th Anniversary International UFO Congress. She noted a lack of tech-savvy young people at the event, and she took the audience to be overly credulous. Even so, both Nikki and Larry think that the usually insular UFO and Singularity communities each have something useful to offer one another. Larry does double duty as he admirably represents both the community of rational UFOlogists and the usual contingent of C-Realm concerns. The episode also features clips from Terence McKenna (taken from Psychedelic Salon episode 258) and James Burkeas well as commentary from Eric Boyd. Music by Kyrstyn Pixton Why the future doesn't need us: Our most powerful 21st-century technologies - robotics, genetic engineering, and nanotech - are threatening to make humans an endangered species. By Bill Joy   Larry's Show Notes: Singularity Weblog http://tinyurl.com/6zlv2fn The Singularity and UFOs: Can ET Teach Us Anything about the Singularity? by Nikki Olson on March 4, 2011 The connections between extraterrestrial life and future technology are numerous, and have been widely discussed in science fiction literature and by physicists such as Michio Kaku. There is basic logic to the connection: if life in other galaxies is able to travel to our galaxy, it is thought, then we should assume their technology is more advanced than our own and that they have already reached their ‘Singularity.’ Travis Walton http://www.travis-walton.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton On Monday, November 10, all of Rogers' remaining crew took polygraph examinations administered by Cy Gilson, an Arizona Department of Public Safety employee. His questions asked if any of the men caused harm to Travis (or knew who had caused Travis harm), if they knew where Travis's body was buried, and if they told the truth about seeing a UFO. The men all denied harming Travis (or knowing who had harmed him), denied knowing where his body was, and insisted they had indeed seen a UFO. Excepting Dallis (who had not completed his exam, thus rendering it invalid), Gilson concluded that all the men were truthful, and the exam results were conclusive. Clark quotes from Gilson's official report: "These polygraph examinations prove that these five men did see some object they believed to be a UFO, and that Travis Walton was not injured or murdered by any of these men on that Wednesday". If the UFO was fake, Gilson thought, "five of these men had no prior knowledge of it". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRAZm40_KAc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIrxegLNGd0 Fire in the Sky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhshgLJuuM In 1993, Walton's book was adapted into a film, Fire in the Sky, directed by Robert Lieberman and starring D. B. Sweeney as Travis Walton, Robert Patrick as Mike Rogers and Scott MacDonald as Travis's Brother Dan Walton. Clark writes that the film found "Moderate success, mixed reviews, and ufologists' complaints about its inaccuracies and exaggerations." (Clark, 650) Especially inaccurate was the portion of the film detailing his time on the UFO; it bears almost no resemblance to the original narrative. In the renewed publicity generated by the motion picture, Walton, Mike Rogers and Allen Dallis agreed to take polygraph examinations at the behest of "a skeptical ufologist, Jerry Black". (Clark, 650) Again, the tests were conducted by Cy Gilson, and the men all asserted that the events as they related them were true. Gilson concluded that all three men were truthful in regard to their responses about the events of November 5, 1975. Lloyd Pye http://www.starchildproject.com/dna2010.htm In Brief: A modified "shotgun" DNA recovery technique has been successfully used to recover coherent segments of the Starchild Skull's nuclear DNA.