Summary: Part two of Chris Date’s discussion with Edward Fudge, author of The Fire That Consumes, who shares his story and talks about the recent movie that tells it, and about his latest and final book on the topic of final punishment, Hell: A Final Word. Also, we share the first installment of a segment telling the story of formerly convinced traditionalists who are now rethinking hell. Promoted Resources Hell: A Final Word, by Edward Fudge. Also available on Kindle. The third edition of Fudge’s The Fire That Consumes, also available on Kindle. “Hell and Mr. Fudge,” the recent movie telling his story. Edward Fudge’s website. Additional Links “How I Became a Conditionalist,” by John Roller (http://rethinkinghell.com/audio/John-Roller-How-I-Became-a-Conditionalist.mp3) Podcast Outline 00:46 Welcome 01:30 Episode 1 recap 01:52 Intro to episode 2 02:05 Start of Episode 2 02:15 Surprises that convinced Edawrd of Conditionalism 03:15 Edward Responds 03:53 Surprise #1: Conscious torment never pictured, but death 06:00 What a relief! The words mean what they say! 06:38 What a relief! The character of God remains intact 06:50 Personal Struggle (Ch. 45 of book) 07:10 Edward responds 10:05 Ch. 50: The Evangelical climate and a prediction about the future 10:20 Edward responds 13:31 Where is the debate headed? A new “traditional” view? 13:46 Edward Responds 14:20 Official view of the Church of England 15:47 Stackhouse mentioned (not by name, but as successor to Packer also unnamed) 16:12 Universalism the new debate that will be taken up 16:50 Diversity within Conditionalism 17:15 Edward Responds 18:26 Soteriology no impact on this view, unless devotion to creed demands it 19:00 annonymous example given where creedal commitment prevents a change of heart 20:38 Closing Question: Ch. 2 Edward had to share what he had found 21:40 What’s the best the opposition has to offer? 21:50 Edward Responds 25:33 Edward mentions Hell Under Fire (without naming it) as currently the best available 26:51 What encouragement for those feaful of fallout? 27:05 Edward: Biblical language at face value (no need to explain away plain wiords) 30:19 Last Question: What final word for those who aspire to carry the torch? 32:05 Edward’s story (had no idea the impact book would have, just committed work to God) 33:25 Being faitfhul with what we’ve been given the main point 34:00 Chris closes/transitions to Conditionalism Conversion story 35:08 John Roller’s story of conversion from traditionallism to conditionalism 44:53 Chris wraps up 45:16 Outro music
