Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler show

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Summary: Welcome to our podcast! My name is Richard Ostler (twitter:; FB:; IG: and am a native of Salt Lake City. I am the author of "Listen Learn and Love: Embracing LGBTQ Latter-day Saints at Amazon ( and Deseret Book ( I am the author of two recent Ensign articles on ‘How the Savior’s Healing Power Applies to Repenting from Sexual Sin’ (August 2020/YSA Digital Only) and ‘7 Tips for Overcoming Pornography Use’ (October, page 72) I have degrees from the University of Utah and Brigham Young University (business). I married my best friend and eternal companion Sheila Juergens of Houston, Texas in 1990 and we are the parents of six children and several grandchildren and live near Cottonwood High School in Salt Lake City. I believe in and am deeply committed to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and want it to work for a wider group. The name ‘Papa Ostler’ resulting from being introduced to Twitter by my High School age son Matt in 2010. I wanted the high school age youth to know I wasn’t their age as I interacted with them … hence the name Papa Ostler. I served as a YSA Bishop in the West Valley City/Magna area of Salt Lake (released in 2016) and met some of the finest people I will ever know. In addition to meeting with wonderful active members of my Ward, I reached out and connected via social media (mostly via the private messaging features of FB and Twitter) with many of our inactive members and their non-member friends. Over time, many felt comfortable meeting with me and sharing their stories. Through hundreds of interviews and ‘listening to understand’, I was able to ‘see’ the church from the eyes of those on the outside. Many feel the church is their ‘spiritual home’ but feel uncomfortable attending for a variety of reasons such as work-in-progress testimonies, concerns about church history, feeling unworthy because of past or current sin, don't fit the cultural mold, role of women, are LGBTQ and/or feel God's LGBTQ childen should be more welcomed in our congregations, etc. This podcast is designed to 'Have a Conversation' about some of the more complicated issues in our church to help all of us 'listen, learn and love' so we can minister in a more effective way to all of Heavenly Father’s children. Most podcasts will be from our LDS LGBTQ friends to give them voice so we can better understand their road, touch their cross, learn from them, and minister to them as directed by President M. Russell Ballard when he said "We need to listen to and understand what our LGBT brothers and sisters are feeling and experiencing. Certainly, we must do better than we have done in the past so that all members feel they have a spiritual home where their brothers and sisters love them and where they have a place to worship and serve the Lord(Nov 2017 BYU Devotional)." Some podcasts will be from LGBTQ allies sharing their experiences and how to be helpful. Other podcasts will be from guests talking about other complicated topics such as mental health, returning from a mission early, overcoming sin, and faith challenges. Are podcast are indexed by category at Thank you for joining us. You can't donate to this podcast. There are no sponsors. But you can leave a review/rate the podcast on the platform you are listening. With love, Richard 'Papa' Ostler ❤ *I will respond to your e-mails*

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 Episode 8: Jena Peterson, Openly Gay Woman Married to her Husband, and Active LDS Member | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:13:08

Jena bravely share her story as gay woman who is active in the LDS church. Jena and her husband are the parents of 3 children and she owns her own practice as a Life Coach, focusing on LGBT individuals and/or their families. Thank you Jena for the courage to share your story. You are awesome! You are helping us to better understand God’s LGBTQ children.

 Episode 7: Hannes du Randt LDS Conversation Story | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:09:51

In 2010, Hannes (age 13) and his family arrived in Utah from South Africa. Hannes joined the Church in 2014 and then served mission for our Savior Jesus Christ to Chicago. His story is one of most faith promoting and sacred experiences of my life. Be prepared to be uplifted. Hannes is joined on this podcast with his friends Matt Ostler, Braxton Chipman and Tom Garbett who talk about his conversion story. We love and admire you Hannes and your wonderful family, Sincerely, The Ostler Family ❤️

 Episode 6: Hope filled, Non-Shaming Thoughts on Solving Pornography | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:38:16

What I teach about pornography after serving as a YSA Bishop. This podcast is for good men and women courageously trying to solve a porn problem and others trying to help them. This podcast is based on this Facebook post

 Episode 5: Paul and Susie Augenstein talk about LGBTQ LDS Meeting in their Ward | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:12:30

Paul currently serves as an LDS Bishop of his local Ward in Riverton Utah. On January 28, 2018 Bishop and Sister Augenstein held a meeting in their LDS Ward Building where LGBTQ people and family members spoke. They share their journey to listen, learn and love God’s LGBTQ which led to having LGBTQ people their home and the meeting in their Ward to talk about LGBTQ. LDS Living wrote about this meeting: Facebook Post:

 Episode 4: John Bonner, a Gay Latter-day Saint and Dear Friend | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:34:00

On Feb 15, 2018, John’s story went viral in LDS circles as Church owned LDS Living published ‘You are My People: Inactive Gay Mormon Shares Powerful Insights After Attending Church for the First Time in Years.' We will hear John share his journey as a gay Latter-day Saint man, some of his highs and lows, and his experience attending church on January 28, 2018 which led to the LDS Living article. Thank you John for helping us to listen, learn and love. More at

 Episode 3: How to Feel Forgiven and Have Hope after Sin | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:24:41

Need to feel forgiven following sin? Need to have hope you can become clean again? Want to help others working through sin? Please listen to this podcast based on impressions from Heavenly Father after hundreds of interviews during my YSA service. Podcast based on this post:

 Episode 2: Latter-day Saint 'Faith Crisis' | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:37:07

Richard ‘Papa’ Ostler talks about an LDS ‘faith crisis’ including his own ‘mini-faith crisis’ while serving as a YSA Bishop. Richard remains a deeply committed Latter-day Saint He shares principals to help others through their own faith crisis and how we can better understand and support the good members of our church struggling with their faith. Podcast based on this post:

 Episode 1: Introduction | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:25:15

Episode 1 introduces the podcast and talks about our purpose, scope and goals. Richard Oster also shares some LGBTQ thoughts.


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