The Gen Why Lawyer Podcast: Inspiration, Growth, and Tactics for Millennial Lawyers and Attorney Entrepreneurs show

The Gen Why Lawyer Podcast: Inspiration, Growth, and Tactics for Millennial Lawyers and Attorney Entrepreneurs

Summary: The Gen Why Lawyer Podcast, hosted by Millennial attorney, Nicole Abboud, is for you if you’re a lawyer, future lawyer, or former lawyer and you’re asking yourself, “What else?” Listen in on conversations with brave Millennial lawyers, brilliant legal innovators, and those courageous few who have left the practice of law to chase their dreams. Nicole and her guests offer insight on how to build a meaningful life and a successful career as a lawyer or beyond.

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 On Being a Feminist and Fighting for Pay Equity with Andrea Kramer [GWL 108] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 26:17

I recorded this interview with Andrea Kramer live at the Colorado Women’s Bar Association Annual Convention in Vail. I was honored to have been asked to speak at the convention so I thought it would be fun to include a short live interview as part of the presentation. In this episode, I spoke with Andrea Kramer of Kramer Frohlich. Andrea is a seasoned and skilled litigator practicing in the areas of business and employment litigation and civil rights. What we discuss in this episode: Andrea’s passion for pay equity advocacy When is it appropriate to negotiate your salary as a young lawyer Why every woman and man should consider themselves feminists How her husband and she raised 2 feminist sons Why she decided to start a practice with a partner (who happened to be her former opposing counsel) How she approaches lawyer compensation and fee conversations with clients Contact Information: (617) 780-1685  

 Can Women Have It All? with Janine Esbrand [GWL 107] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 39:09

Lawyer, Mom, Coach, and Podcaster, Janine Esbrand, joins us today and shares her thoughts on how lawyers can go about planning for a family while working at a firm. What does that conversation with the employer look like? When should it happen? Janine also shares her insight on how lawyers who feel “stuck” in their careers and lives can begin to find some clarity. What we cover in this episode: * How Janine made the shift from private practice to in-house counsel * Why she decided to step away from her firm job when she became pregnant * If you’re considering starting a family and taking time off to have a baby, how do you start that conversation with your employer? * The importance of building connections and your reputation within a firm prior to taking maternity leave * How she started her coaching business – LightBox Coaching * What are some of the obstacles she finds her lawyer clients facing when they’re considering making major career moves * What are some questions you can ask yourself if you find yourself lost in your career and life * Can women truly have it all? Can we have successful careers, motherhood, and a social life? It all comes down to one thing. * What her podcast, More Than a Lawyer, is about and why you should be listening Contact Information: Coaching website: More Than A Lawyer Podcast  Facebook – Being More Than a Lawyer Free roadmap to returning to work:

 Advocating for Yourself the Effective Way with Lauren Rikleen [GWL 106] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 43:51

The path to success for lawyers is harder than ever. Young lawyers face numerous challenges that range from developing a specialty to maintaining and bringing in clients. The goal, of course, is to meet these challenges with a sense of excitement. That’s why I’m excited to have our guest, Lauren Rikleen, joining us today to discuss how young lawyers can overcome some of these challenges. What we discuss in this episode: * How have the issues that loom over the profession changed over the past decade. Have they improved at all? * What changes are Millennials bringing about in the legal workplace? * Career building is a lifelong effort * The days of the general practitioner are long gone * How can young lawyers advocate for themselves? * Why you should collect positive information about yourself throughout the year * How to be less afraid of business development * How to rethink the word networking Resources: You Raised Us, Now Work With Us Ladder Down: Success Strategies for Lawyers From Women Who Will Be Hiring, Reviewing and Promoting You Contact Information: Email:  

 Addiction, Eating Disorders, and the Journey to Sobriety with Brian Cuban [GWL 105] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 57:56

On this episode, I speak with Brain Cuban. Brian is an author, keynote speaker, and former practicing attorney. His latest book is called The Addicted Lawyer: Tales of the Bar, Booze, Blow and Redemption and in this episode, he’s joining us to share his powerful story. His shares his remarkable journey from drug and alcohol addiction to sobriety.  He talks about how he found himself addicted to cocaine, alcohol, steroid at a young age. He discusses his suicide attempt and his various failed marriages. Brian talks about his struggle with body dysmorphic disorder and bulimia. Brian also talks about how he continued to practice law even though he was suffering from a cocaine addiction. When we recorded this interview Brian was coming up on his 10 year anniversary of being sober. His story is truly amazing. Resources Lawyer Assistance Program Dean of Students at your law school The Addicted Lawyer

 Top Tips from 4 Marketing Experts [GWL 104] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 15:09

In today’s episode, I share some sound bites from four marketing experts I spoke with at the Legal Marketing Association annual conference a month ago. I asked four marketing companies to share their top tips and advice for young lawyers when it comes to marketing and business development. This episode is dedicated to their responses. The experts’ information (in order of appearance): Terry M. Isner – CEO/Owner of Jaffe Alex Wilson – Senior Business Development Manager at Concep  Kelly Googe Lucas – Client Marketing Director at bbr marketing  Lynn Foley – Partner, CEO at f squared marketing    Sharing is Caring

 Learning to UNlearn [April Recap Bonus Ep.] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 22:59

In this month’s recap, I talk about my struggle to tone down my lawyer brain and tune up my business brain. As lawyers trained to spot issues (aka all the things that could go wrong), it often becomes difficult to spot opportunities when all you’re thinking about are the negatives. So this past month, I worked on becoming more of an optimist who remains open to all of the business opportunities out there. I also talk about my firmly-held belief of creating our own opportunities and how that translated into me giving a presentation for my business in front of a room full of lawyers. I also chat about the various resources that helped me move my business forward, including my mastermind group ( and Toastmasters International. If you have any questions or would like to chat about anything I discussed in this episode, please feel free to reach out to me through email: Sharing is Caring

 The Reality About Mental Health and Lawyers with Patrick Krill [GWL 102] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 40:16

We can’t discuss mental health awareness enough on this podcast or in this profession. Substance abuse remains a huge issue that many lawyers, especially young lawyers, are dealing with. Joining us today is Patrick Krill, the principal and founder of Krill Strategies. Patrick is a globally recognized leading authority on addiction and mental health issues in the legal profession. He is also a licensed attorney, board certified alcohol and drug counselor, author, advocate, and thought leader. What we cover in this episode: * Why is substance abuse such a huge problem in our profession * Why the culture of the profession and law students validates the idea of self-medication * What is alcoholism * How can you recognize if you have an addiction problem * Why denial of an addiction is incentivized by our egos, our concern over our professional competencies. * What role do law firms play in helping lawyers who are addicted * How to grow within a firm and attend social mixers when you have a problem * The ABA and Hazelden Betty Ford foundation joint study * What mental health issues are Baby Boomers experiencing and why we should be aware of it * Why mindfulness and meditation, although important for overall lawyer wellness, is not a good replacement for professional help Resources: California Lawyer Assistance Program Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation ABA Mental Health Resources All resources listed on Patrick’s site. Contact information: Website:

 What to Do With Your Lawyer Money with Financial Planner Sophia Bera [GWL 101] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 42:19

We’re talking about money! It’s important to be educated and informed about how best to save, spend, pay off debt, and of course, play with your money. Joining us today to chat about money is Sophia Bera, founder of Gen Y Planning. As a certified financial planner, Sophia provides affordable financial planning to our generation, Millennials. She is not your father’s financial planner. What we chat about: Why Millennials should care about their money What is a 401k and how do you “match” it to save the most amount of money? Should you be paying off your student loans first or saving? What your options are for paying off your Federal student loans What questions to ask when shopping around for a financial planner Why you shouldn’t be afraid to use some of your money to have fun and how you can plan for the trips you want to take How to build basic financial security Resources: Refinancing your student loans: SoFi Citizens Bank Choosing a financial advisor: NAPFA – National Association of Personal Financial Advisors XY Planning Network Sophia’s Book: What You Should Have Learned About Money But Never Did If you want to become a client of Sophia’s: Contact Information: Twitter: @sophiabera Email: sophia@genyplanning  

 Dating, Love, and Relationships as a Lawyer with Dr. Robert Riordan [GWL 100] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 32:00

Dating in general can be difficult! Dating as a lawyer…now that’s a challenge. My guest today is Dr. Robert Riordan. He is an attorney and licensed clinical psychologist who provides therapy and counseling services to individual adults, as well as therapy and mediation services to couples. What we chat about in this episode: If lawyers’ personality styles conducive to healthy relationships What is the greatest challenge for lawyers in relationships Why do lawyers put their personal needs behind their professional lives How millennials are evidencing better balance between work and life Why it’s important for lawyers to get in touch with their emotional life Why most people can’t answer the simple question: “what do you care about in this world?” How lawyers can manage the expectations of those whom they’re dating What are the key indicators of a healthy relationship Why there’s really no winner in any argument Contact Information:   Email: Website:

 Improving Your Physical and Nutritional Health with Christie Miller [GWL 99] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 41:52

Christie Miller is founder of Eat Train Win, where she coaches in the areas of health, nutrition, and happiness. She is a former financial analyst, corporate lawyer, and LA County Sheriff. Christie is a total badass. What we chat about in this episode: What led Christie to leave her high paying, high powered job as a corporate attorney How her work took a heavy toll on her body, diet, and fitness Why she quit law to focus on her health and happiness What happened when she went on a diet that involved a prepackage food delivery system How taking charge of your life and health starts in your mind Are cleanses worth it? How can young lawyers lead healthier lifestyles? Why it’s important to take time to plan your meals Why healthy living starts in the mind, not in the kitchen Is there a connection between healthy living and confidence and quality of work product for lawyers? Contact Information:  Eat Train Win for Life Summit  

 Experimenting is Fun [March Recap Bonus Ep.] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 17:29

This month, I venture into uncharted territory with cold emails. After speaking with a business coach, I learned a lot of new business development techniques I hadn’t thought about but am excited to implement. In this episode, I discuss how I was able to narrow down my ideal customer description, aka my avatar, how I sent out cold and warm emails and which ones worked best, how I’m growing my email list with a free eguide, and how I took a macro look at my business and identified my business mission. Resources Mentioned: Kate Brockmeyer – Business catalyst – Facebook Articles to help you identify your avatar:   Who is your avatar? Website where I created my freebie: using the A4 template Website for creating landing pages and capturing emails: Grab a copy of my freebie, 5 Ways to Use Video to Amplify Your Law Firm Marketing here: Sharing is Caring

 Creating a Legal Career that Fits You with Joey Vitale [GWL 97] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 45:52

My guest today is Joey Vitale, founder of Indie Creative Law – a law firm serving creative small businesses. Joey and I have been friends online for a while and, I finally decided to make it official by having him on as a guest. He shares a lot of great advice on how to figure out whom your target client is, how to build a thriving Facebook group that serves as your online hub, and how to create a legal career that fits you and your strengths. What we chat about in this episode: Why Joey didn’t feel comfortable practicing as a civil defense litigator and how he transitioned to his current position Why it’s important to notice the patterns that you build up during your day because they affect your habits when you’re not at work How he came up with his firm’s name and why he rebranded soon after launching How he identified his ideal client What he values as a law firm and how he translates his value into pricing The importance of niching down in order to understand your customers Embracing the power of storytelling to help you engage with your Facebook group members Resources Mentioned The Happiness Advantage  Joey’s “viral” post about Etsy Contact Information Friends of Indie Creative Law  

 From Federal Prosecutor to Legal Thriller Novelist with Allison Leotta [GWL 96] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 26:51

Today’s fabulous guest is Allison Leotta. For twelve years, Allison was a federal prosecutor in Washington, D.C., where she specialized in sex crimes, domestic violence, and crimes against children. Drawing on that experience, she now writes legal thrillers, for which she’s been dubbed “the female John Grisham.” What we chat about in this episode: How Allison drew inspiration from her real life as a prosecutor to write her fiction novels How she was able to write her first book while she was expecting her first child What her writing routine looked like How you can prepare your writing to be picked up by an editor and ultimately sold Where she draws inspiration from for her books How to make the mental shift from writing legally to writing creatively What Allison believes is the key to writing any book Contact Information Email: Check out all of Allison’s books here.

 The 3 Laws of Empowerment and Being Authentically You with Shawn McBride [GWL 95] | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 36:59

My guest today is Shawn McBride. He is licensed to practice law in 12 states and DC. Along with practicing, he is also a business strategist, a CPA, and a public speaker.  He works to empower business owners in their mission to build businesses that stand the test of time. What we cover in this episode: How he started public speaking and what he speaks about What the 3 laws of empowerment entail Why you don’t have to follow a standard career path as a lawyer How we begin to take action on what we really want out of life Why writing down goals is an important action How even slight changes along the way on your journey can make a huge difference Is there a difference between a business brand and a personal brand? How to protect yourself if you’re entering into a new partnership Contact Information: Email:  

 Reflections on 2 Years of Podcasting with Nicole and Special Guest | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 19:40

We’re celebrating the 2 year anniversary of The Gen Why Lawyer Podcast! Woohoo! Thank you to all of the listeners for the continued support. In this episode, I bring in a special guest to help me ring in year 2 of the podcast. We chat about how the podcast has evolved, how the community of young lawyer listeners have grown, and where I hope the podcast goes. Enjoy and thank you again!     Sharing is Caring


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