Summary: <p>Basecamp founder, New York Times best-selling author, and web software pioneer Jason Fried is Jeffrey Zeldman’s guest. The two discuss Jason’s latest book (co-authored with David Heinemeier Hannson), It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work, which The Economist called “by far the best thing on management published this year.” Also: the secrets of Basecamp, the magic of sleep, the sameness of agencies’ portfolio sites, why Basecamp doesn’t user test, and more.</p> <p>Note: We apologize for Jeffrey's audio quality in this episode, but Jason Fried says so many smart things we decided we had to share this conversation anyway. It's worth it!</p> <p></p><p>Links for this episode:</p><ul> <li> <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonfried" class="link" target="_blank">Jason Fried (@jasonfried) | Twitter</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://basecamp.com/" class="link" target="_blank">Basecamp: Project Management & Team Communication Software</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Doesnt-Have-Be-Crazy-Work/dp/0062874780" class="link" target="_blank">It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work: Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson: 9780062874788: Amazon.com: Books</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="http://37signals.com/manifesto" class="link" target="_blank">The 37signals Manifesto (our original site from 1999)</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://medium.com/@jasonfried" class="link" target="_blank">Jason Fried – Medium</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://m.signalvnoise.com/" class="link" target="_blank">Signal v. Noise</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/60619.Jason_Fried" class="link" target="_blank">Jason Fried (Author of Rework)</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.ted.com/speakers/jason_fried" class="link" target="_blank">Jason Fried | Speaker | TED</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Remote-Office-Required-Jason-Fried-ebook/dp/B00C0ALZ0W/" class="link" target="_blank">Amazon.com: Remote: Office Not Required eBook: Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson: Kindle Store</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307463745/" class="link" target="_blank">Rework: Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson: 9780307463746: Amazon.com: Books</a><br> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0578012812/" class="link" target="_blank">Getting Real: The Smarter, Faster, Easier Way to Build a Successful Web Application: Jason Fried, David Heinemeier Hansson, Matthew Linderman: 9780578012810: Amazon.com: Books</a><br> </li> </ul>
