Summary: Good government, and confidence a big government is capable of good performance, both take a lot of work and commitment. But my next guest, after spending 24 years in federal public service, spent another career researching, writing about and pushing for governmental excellence. He's just retired from his perch as senior fellow at the IBM Center for the Business of Government, John Kamensky. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
