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Summary: This week I continue my insightful conversation with singer-songwriter, Amanda Cook. In this episode, Amanda and I explain: - the gift and grip of grief - the Fives’ defense mechanism of isolation - the importance of staying present in the moment This conversation brings so much light and clarity to the construction of the Enneagram Five’s personality. You don’t want to miss it.