220 When Your Co-Host Decides Stuff And Doesn't Tell You

Summary: Pulling back the curtain on one of Elsie’s bad habits on how she makes decisions and doesn’t tell anyone which leads Jess and Elsie to hash out the age old debate on banter and going off topic vs staying on task and how that affects our possible audience growth? We also tackle topics that range from Podchaser features, to some very interesting Spotify data on listening, the Winter Podcasting Upfronts, the Asian American Podcasting Community and so much more!