209 The Lego Land Club Takeover!

Summary: What happens when you’re recording in a public setting and get kicked out in the middle of it? You keep on recording and of course talk about Apple Podcasts because goodness gracious there was a lot to talk about. And Spotify. And we get into the discussion most podcasters are constantly asking about, how do you measure success? Downloads? John thinks so, Elsie & Jess disagree. What do YOU think?