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Summary: We're back in the studio talking about the current Facebook and self-driving car drama. We're joined by Phil Merson, Director and ITAM Specialist at Ivanti. We discuss his Ivanti origin story, "spreadsheet asset management," over-licensing, shadow IT, and the future of ITAM.