![Design Matters with Debbie Millman show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/027/070/small/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-2009-2012.jpg)
Summary: Debbie talks to Roz Chast about how she earned a coveted spot as a cartoonist for <em>The New Yorker</em> magazine, and how her art is informed by the brutal reality of life.
Summary: Debbie talks to Roz Chast about how she earned a coveted spot as a cartoonist for <em>The New Yorker</em> magazine, and how her art is informed by the brutal reality of life.