![Design Matters with Debbie Millman show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/027/070/small/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-2009-2012.jpg)
Summary: Debbie Millman and James Victore discusses his book, putting his opinion in the work and the difference between God-jobs and money jobs.
Summary: Debbie Millman and James Victore discusses his book, putting his opinion in the work and the difference between God-jobs and money jobs.