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Summary: Jonathan Ford discusses his eighteen job interviews before being hired by Michael Peters, his belief that a good idea cannot come from a computer and the importance of doing work that is truthful.
Summary: Jonathan Ford discusses his eighteen job interviews before being hired by Michael Peters, his belief that a good idea cannot come from a computer and the importance of doing work that is truthful.