Angels and Awakening

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Interview experts and bring through Angel messages. I am so excited you're here!   [00:01:38] Hello beautiful souls. Welcome back to angels and awakening.   [00:01:42] I am so so excited for our podcast today. We have an author Kay Eck. She is our local right here in Wheaton Illinois.   [00:01:52] And she is the author of Divorce a love story the surprising tale of self-love to heal every last pain. Kay thank you so much for being on the show and welcome.   [00:02:05] Thank you so much for having me Julie. I'm thrilled to be here.   [00:02:10] What can you tell us a little bit more about yourself.   [00:02:14] Oh well I'm a mother of four children. I raised them in Wheaton with my husband Fred and I have had careers in journalism and public relations and art and yoga and I always knew that it was within me to write a book. I always felt like that would happen. But of course this is a quite the book that I had envisioned writing but currently that's what I'm doing. I'm writing.   [00:02:48] That's wonderful.   [00:02:50] So tell us a little bit about your first book divorce the love story.   [00:02:56] Well I started writing in the process of uncoupling from my husband because it was a way to help me process everything that I was going through. And that was a very therapeutic exercise for me and I committed to it as a daily practice. And probably a couple of months into it I realized that I was writing a book and I allowed myself the out of never letting it see the light of day.   [00:03:32] But at a certain point I became very aware that it was a very healing message. It was it was healing to me and I knew that it could be a healing message for others as well so you know this is such a huge topic right.   [00:03:48] And it's something that I think that anybody who is in a marriage or a long term relationship is going to come to at some point because you know anything that is alive it's growing towards its end from the beginning right. We're always kind of aging our relationships are aging our bodies everything and we have to work so hard to keep growing together and keep these relationships together but even still sometimes I don't see divorce as being a bad thing. On the other side you know I talk a lot about the other side and angels and they show me that divorce is not a bad thing. You know it's just that sometimes it doesn't work.   [00:04:38] So can you kind of talk to us a little bit about you know you say that you're your spouse was a bad guy. You know there wasn't. Blake major major issues. It was just an uncoupling. And how did you how did you come to realize that for yourself. Well I I feel that there's a   [00:05:05] That we're conditioned to believe that the value of a relationship is strictly in its longevity. And since I had this long relationship that we both felt had reached its fulfillment I couldn't reconcile that concept because everything that we had done together was incredibly beautiful and it was crushing to come to a point where we knew it had reached its fulfillment. And then to have all these messages that we had failed in some way and I was determined. And of course extremely hopeful that our family the family that we created could continue to be about love and not loss. And but what I found is that I had to undo all of my social and religious and societal conditioning and get to the core of what my beliefs were and who I was in order to rebuild our family in a new way. And our relationship in a new way because obviously we have. Relationship and a connection that will last throughout this lifetime and probably the others as well.   [00:06:27] Yes. Yeah. So what is that like if you could gain a break down example for some of our listeners. What what does that look like to people. So we have these conditions from early childhood from religious upbringing from different points within our life where you know somebody might hear well you know divorce is frowned upon on the other side or you're bad if you get divorced. How would you tell our listeners that you can recondition re pattern those structures within the mind to those thoughts that we have.   [00:07:05] All right. Well it kind of hails back to what you were saying earlier about the fluid nature of life right. We were never the same in any single instance. And it's it's not as though I'm against marriage because I think it's a beautiful thing. But what we've come to understand on this path of consciousness is that everything is in a fluid state. And so we can if we can allow ourselves to be in this fluid state when it comes to relationships will become better at judging when the relationship is serving its purpose and when it has reached its fulfillment. And we've learned how to get into relationships really well but we haven't learned how to get out of them very well.   [00:08:00] That's so true.   [00:08:02] So getting out of a relationship or bringing a relationship to its conclusion requires as much love as getting into them recognizing that your partner is a divine being and is on his or her perfect path is critical to that process. It's not easy. Conscious Uncoupling does that make anything easier. In fact sometimes it's harder because you have to look at yourself. You have to look at what core wounds you're bringing into the relationship and what's best for you. So it's it's not a necessarily as smooth and sparkly path but it is it's worth it. If your goal is to keep the love and continue your family.   [00:08:51] Yeah. One of the things that I've been working on with my clients over the last couple of years and I really got in kind of deeper into in some meditation and prayer is how much we as women have kind of dammed our voice and we're so getting that back now. We're really learning how to use that more as a collective consciousness again. And on an individual level and you talk about the path to s love is the most important job we've ever had. You said it's one of the most important and hardest things we'll ever do. For somebody who's just coming back into their voice and really learning how to feel their feelings again and speak their needs. Where do they begin.   [00:09:42] I think for me the beginning of that path was learning how to sit quietly and to become the observer of the thoughts and the feelings and to be patient and loving. With that process and to recognize how easy it is for us to distract ourselves from what's coming up from within it it's so easy and it's not necessarily the big obvious things like the addictions and all of that the distractions but there they're so subtle as well. It's so easy just to turn your focus from the sadness that you feel to the thought that you should be happy. And so my recommendation for everybody is that they spend a little time with themselves. Just getting to know themselves and and learning to be in that posture of accepting what comes up no judgment.   [00:10:47] Yeah because that's what we do so often rightly plates place judgment on ourselves and others on our stories.   [00:10:55] Yeah and I haven't met a single person for whom the path of self-love isn't the most difficult thing in the world. I don't know why it should be because we're we're really actually really good at loving especially as moms. We got that down but for some reason when it comes to us it's the hardest thing in the world. I've had the opportunity to speak with someone recently who is just coming off of a long prison sentence and had gone through an awakening through the process of being imprisoned and incarcerated at a young age and it occurred to me that the process of self-love is no more difficult for him than it is for me. And so it's really a very powerful core thing that we're learning how to do in this lifetime.   [00:11:46] Yeah and I've heard you say before too that one of the ways that you share yourself love is when you need it.   [00:11:55] You mother your sound. Can you tell us about that.   [00:12:00] Yeah. I think there's a little bit of a notion that self-love is somehow related to physical comfort. And the idea of mothering myself included that physical comfort I would actually put my hands on my body in a comforting way but it also you know as a mother you have the responsibility of helping your children develop discipline and guiding them when they're running off and parent direction and this is the same thing that you need to do with yourself. It's like you have to pull yourself back to those feelings that are coming up. You have to have a discipline practice of putting yourself first on your list and that whatever that means to you and it's different for everybody whether it's finding quiet time to be by yourself or to allow yourself to spend money on yourself or pursue your passions or to speak your truth in your relationships whether that be with your partner or your parents or your children. The children aspect is could have possibly been a harder thing for me to do because I have been accustom to serving them in every way and putting them first on my list for a long time even when they're grown and they're not even in my household any longer. I was still making sure that their needs were met before I met my own. And I'm still in the process of untangling all that for sure.   [00:13:48] Ok thank you for reminding us of this because it is so important for our listeners to understand that the only way that I found to really tap into your needs is to understand your feelings is to say OK well where am I at. What am I feeling. I found that the process really starts with feeling your feelings because so often we just shove them under the rug where are you. They're too busy to look at and that hurts too much to look at them. So we don't. And we learn to turn off our feelings. So step one is really feeling your feelings again taking that quiet time to be able to go inside and understand what you're thinking or feeling and then from there you can ask yourself well what do I need. And is that the process that you use to figure out what you need in your life. Because I know as a mom life does get so busy and so hectic sometimes and we are putting everybody else first. But for those who are so busy and are used to this work maybe what are some tools that they can use to really get to the root of what they need.   [00:15:01] Oh this was such a big issue for me because one of the things that launched me on the writing of this book was the fact that even though Fred and I had been in our relationship in a really good way we were. There was no just no dysfunction there was no cheating there was no we treated each other kindly and well for many for all of the years that we were together. And yet   [00:15:28] I felt so much shame at uncoupling that I couldn't even utter the word divorce. And for a very long time I didn't tell any of my friends or family what I was going through and I really just couldn't understand that.   [00:15:44] And so that caused me to start looking at why I felt so much shame around this issue.   [00:15:52] And of course that led me to some really deep feelings of unworthiness and inadequacy and being unlovable and I had to dredge up all that uncomfortable stuff in order to look at it and to understand the the untruth of it that that I was all of those things. So this isn't an easy thing for us to do and we don't necessarily have to take any action with these feelings because oftentimes they just want to see the light of day. Let's say that we've been burying them for so long they just want to come up and out of us and many times we feel like they're going to kill us. We it feels like annihilation. And I encourage people to summon the courage to sit with it so that they can find that the feelings that are coming up are not going to kill them they're going to free them. They just want to be released from the cells of your body. And once you discover how this process works you can begin to recognize immediately when some feelings come up and your initial reaction is to distract yourself from them. You now have the knowledge and the the ability to sit with it so that it moves through your field so much more quickly so you become a master at being human.   [00:17:26] You know you're feeling the feelings you're recognizing them and then they're released leaving your field and it leaves so much more space for peace and contentment which in my own life if somebody had asked me what did I want out of life. It was top of the list peace of mind peace of mind. I just want peace. And that was obviously something that I I never felt. So I had all this stuff buried inside. And so that is what I learned about about this process is that those that peace is achievable.   [00:18:02] I love that thank you that's so beautiful.   [00:18:04] At one point I had a chance you know you talk about bringing consciousness into our relationships.   [00:18:17] And I'm wondering for those who are working on creating a better relationship creating a stronger partnership where can we bring more consciousness into it.   [00:18:32] Well I have to say that this is definitely something that I am still learning. And my first for some reason it was very hard for me to be conscious in my relationship and by conscious I mean being able to speak my truth and not concern myself so much with the reaction but to speak it because it needed to be spoken for me and my my fear was always how it was going to be received and won. So my practice in that was to start speaking the truth to myself like what is it that I'm really feeling here and and what what is my true. And as I became a little bit more comfortable with that. I could bring more of that into my relationships. And this is really for all relationships it's not just marriage partnerships marriage or partnerships and so it's also being willing to be quiet and not to react to what someone else is saying until you can really let it sink in.   [00:19:52] Are oftentimes our first reaction is is to defend or to get triggered or to shut down and we have to recognize that that's that's us. That has nothing to do with what the partner or what your partner is saying it's what it's creating in you that needs to be explored. And so being able to sit and listen and hear and not defend from the ego place is critical to the process.   [00:20:22] And I've heard you talk a little bit before about the shadow self. Does that kind of tie in there.   [00:20:31] Absolutely because we this is a part of who we are. And I'm not going to pretend that I understand where it comes from because   [00:20:42] I lived a pretty good life. You know I didn't really express my shadow side all that much. I mean I'm I'm just a normal human being.   [00:20:52] But we. The shadow aspect we don't really understand where that's coming from it could be coming from past lives that were wanting to reconcile in this lifetime. But it's it's there and it's for me the shadow side represents or becomes seen in terms of all that shame that I feel and we have to get to the point where we recognize that we are lovable we are perfect we are divine.   [00:21:28] And that's not an easy road you know.   [00:21:31] Yeah. And I love that part about it too because you know at the beginning of this spiritual journey for me I was listening to all of these spiritual teachers and I was I guess I don't know if it was me or the way that I was hearing it but I would think to myself well it's all about living in this high vibration living in this high vibration 24/7. I teach my listeners how to open up their crown chakra get into more of a blessed out theta state. And that was the message that I was hearing from a lot of people live in this state 24/7 but as a mom as a entrepreneur as somebody who loves to create in her life you have to be human. You know you have to kind of be able to shift a think of it like shifting gears in a car between these different states of being. And I do see that as being our humanness of really loving all of these different aspects about ourselves loving the creation process loving being process.   [00:22:40] Yeah I totally agree with that. I had the same experience. I think that we we need to recognize that for a very long time we were living in such density that it was necessary for us to understand that there were higher vibrations because before we didn't even know that. So all of the spiritual books and the teachers and all that I find was absolutely necessary on my path so that I could start poking up into those higher vibrations and feeling 100 percent right. And now I'm totally in agreement with you that where we are now as a collective is embodying the divinity here in the human experience and that means accepting all of what it means to be human from the feelings and the behaviors and the consequences of our actions and the clarity and do our city and all of those is the beautiful human history that's brought us to this point of record of bringing the divinity down onto this plane and seeing where it takes us. Sorry. It's a process also. It's never going to be starting it's never going to be one thing and not the other.   [00:23:57] Yeah yeah we're always gonna have both parts to us. Another thing that I wonder if we could talk about a little bit is when I work with spirit and I've been praying and kind of meditating on this I see marriage as changing over the next 10 to 20 years.   [00:24:15] And it's not about being anti marriage because I'm not anti marriage either in any way shape or form. I see how much love and how much fulfillment I have gotten and how much support and how much being in a marriage for myself has reflected back to me and helped me open and grow as a human being.   [00:24:39] But you know marriage today and people going through and uncoupling process is very different than 20 years ago where it had to be this nasty thing it was always this nasty thing and it's not that way anymore. There are so many people who are uncoupling and doing it with friendship and with kindness.   [00:25:06] Talk to me about that and talk to me about how you see maybe marriage as an institution changing over the next 20 years.   [00:25:15] You know this is a big issue for me because I have four children and they're approaching the age where they're they're choosing you know partnerships for themselves. And one of the things that I realized after I wrote the book is that in a million years I couldn't advise them to stand together in front of a group of people and proclaim that they were going to be together forever no matter what. Because that's just a folly. A little bit and but what I I have come to recognize and what my message to them would be is   [00:25:57] That marriage you come into a marriage every single moment of every day and you decide and every moment of every day whether you want to be present with somebody and whether you want to be in relationship and grow in that moment.   [00:26:14] And so it's a it's a process of it's a daily practice like. Like anything and they get to decide how what shape and form that takes if they want to pledge their love to one another in front of their families and friends. I'm all for that but I do think that we need to talk about the fact that they're there can be a natural arc to a relationship where it has served our growth and and to recognize when it no longer is serving our growth and that doesn't mean that it's that it's going to be an easy process because you have a lot of shared history and love and friendship.   [00:27:02] And if you can allow it to become something new then it will sir. It will continue to serve you. And so I feel that that is where we're headed with with marriage and a lot of young people obviously aren't taking the traditional route of institutional marriage. One of the things that was really kind of jarring and shocking to me in the process of uncoupling was how much control the state had in our relationship. For instance you know we had to petition the court to dissolve our marriage. And when we because we gave them the right to do that when we signed off on their paperwork and in the early stages of our own coupling our desire was to just try to dissolve our marriage without lawyers. And we were told that we couldn't do that. And then we tried to hire the same lawyer to represent us both because we had already written our agreement and we were told we couldn't do that.   [00:28:17] Then we tried to get lawyers in the same firm. We couldn't even do that. So that's the whole system is set up in an antagonistic way so that the lawyers were trying to draw us draw the case out trying for each of us to get more leverage or property or whatever. And that's just such an. And that's not what we wanted. But it's very easy to be led down that path. Because you're feeling very vulnerable and it is a very raw time because it's challenging. And so it's very easy to be led in that direction and you have to be very conscious to to always be making the choices that you feel are going to bring you to the outcome that you desire. And I would suggest that that desired outcome is love that is what we want. And when we are feeling defensive and protective of ourselves our hearts are property it's representative of the fear that we're not lovable or we're not that love is going to be lost we're losing the great love of our lives so we may never be loved again. So recognizing that what's actually beneath some of those feelings that fear of being alone of being separate are the things that we need to look at because they can be the things that are driving us the most.   [00:29:45] Oh absolutely. Always. Yeah. It's almost never the surface or the surface thing.   [00:29:52] Yeah yeah.   [00:29:53] We have to go deeper I'm wondering too if you can see you know 20 years down the road marriage changing in a way where the financial structure is different of maybe not us pooling all of our assets not but kind of remaining financially individuals with in a marriage relationship or a partnership so that if it does reach its arc the uncoupling process is just a more peaceful easier one for all the issue of Money slush.   [00:30:34] Power is something that we really need to talk about because under money is an energy and we don't often talk about how that plays in to our relationships and it's typically never actually about the money it's usually about the power right. And this is especially critical for stay at home moms like I was because you can end up feeling powerless because you don't earn the money. And so I think this is something that that's an excellent point that we are really going to need to grapple with because at the outset you know this is a discussion that we need to have before we enter into long term relationships and have children together. How what's the exit strategy so to speak.   [00:31:31] You know that if that becomes necessary and how the financial aspect is going to be Howard how are we going to equalize that if if both partners aren't earning the same amount of money. And if we could figure out how to do that in our relationships then we can take it out into the world and we can figure out how to do it there.   [00:31:53] Yeah. I think you're right though you hit the nail on the head because as I've gone into this talking with spirit about this one of the biggest things that they bring up is motherhood and we need to have some concept of payment if we are going to have to remain financially independent and our relationships have some form of compensation while we're staying home because I know you know every month they're out there who has stayed home with their children and knows you're not sitting at home.   [00:32:26] Obviously you are working more than you ever did in any job that you ever had.   [00:32:32] Yeah I think that it's really important to understand that that is something that women have to take for themselves because we can no longer wait until that's given to us. And so that is the the big change that's occurring is that we're starting to recognize our value. What regardless of what choices we make about domesticity. So that is something that we are going to create. Nobody is going to create that for us. We're going to come into a relationship and we're going to say these are my needs. This is what I would like to do. I would like to stay home and raise my children and exchange for that. We're going to you know this is how it's kind of work.   [00:33:20] However that's decided is of course such an individual thing but it can't go to a default any longer. We're gonna have to take responsibility for creating a new paradigm around that.   [00:33:32] So you see this as starting with the individual that us women as in on an individual level we need to have these conversations take ownership of what we want and how we want it. The direction that we want to go in our lives. And if it's saying you know what ideal I want to be a mom I want to stay home with our kids because there is so much incredible beauty and value in that then we're splitting the paycheck half and half.   [00:34:00] And that's how we're going to keep financially independent within our relationship.   [00:34:05] I think there's a lot of value to I was just reading about this yesterday about the notion of every loose relationship having three separate Well bank accounts but approaches would be just as appropriate a term because there's your goals. There's the woman's goals.   [00:34:28] There's the partners goals and then there's the goals that we have together. And each of those needs to be funded in an appropriate manner. And so each of us will have different priorities coming into the relationship. So I don't see how it can be anything but individual. And to allow it to be anything but individual is to place the power outside of your relationship and outside of yourself. So I think that yeah we're in the process of taking that all back. And if you think about the progress that we've made you know it's huge because back in whatever 19 10 you would never find the woman's name on the mortgage. You know it's wouldn't happen.   [00:35:12] So of 19 and like I think it was actually nineteen ninety six. My parents got divorced and my mom had to have her dad sign for a credit card for her because she couldn't get a credit card. Everything had been in my dad's name. At nineteen ninety six that was. That's pretty incredible. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So you're totally right. We've we've made huge headway but there is still more work to be done.   [00:35:44] Mm hmm. And of course this that the times are such that we can have a rapid awakening here and we are in the process of a rapid awakening. So it's imperative that each of us stand in our power and observe the balance in our relationships and to re craft our relationships if that's what's called for and to have the courage to understand that other people don't have to like that they don't have to be on board with it but it still has to be done.   [00:36:23] Yeah. K. Can you talk to us for a second about the kids and how you know for people who are going through this or are thinking about uncoupling. I'm wondering the biggest question that they have is the kids.   [00:36:38] I mean they almost sometimes base the decision on the children and yet energetically the children are so much better off when they're in a loving environment with both mom and dad are happy and true to themselves. And so how do you explain this. What is the advice that you give the women that you work with.   [00:37:03] Oh my gosh this is such a power packed point. There's so much to unpack when we talk about this issue.   [00:37:13] For me it was definitely off the most heart wrenching and heartbreaking and difficult part of the whole process is because in my mind I had promised a some kind of forever to my children and it was very hard for me to break that promise when in fact what I had promised them was an illusion and an untruth and I was the only thing that kept me going in a process that I felt was best for me was and best for my partner as well was the fact that questioning whether I would ever encourage them to stay in a relationship that wasn't serving them.   [00:38:08] And if I couldn't recommend that to them how could I record meant that to myself. And so for many years it was a back and forth because I was committed to that illusion and I know in some regards it was an ego related issue because I had been conditioned to believe that a long marriage was a good marriage. And so I understand that this is probably the most difficult thing for women because as moms you don't want to break the hearts of your children. That is the that's the worst case scenario. And but I also felt that I owed it to them to provide the example of what it means to be in your truth and to put yourself first. And if I couldn't show them that who was going to show them that. So you know the idea that this is better for kids. I I don't entertain that because I don't know and what I do know is that as souls they chose me and their father as parents and that their higher self knew exactly what they are getting into.   [00:39:33] And I knew that this was the best way for them to learn and grow and expand as souls on earth.   [00:39:40] And so I have to trust in the divine plan that everything that is presented to them in their lives is for their growth and their development and their highest good. So what. Yeah. Yeah. Because they don't like it. It's not easy for them. It does break their hearts. It shatters the illusion for them as well. But if we can get to a greater truth then it's all going to serve. It's going to serve us all in the end. Yeah.   [00:40:11] Is there a way for this generation to present it to children today. You know because I've seen this in my own life. You know when somebody in the community or somebody at school is going through a divorce you know. And and my daughter come home and talk about it and will say well it's never gonna happen but you are creating that illusion. When you say that because I see us together you know and I see us together the long term but I think just in general and marriage we don't know what's going to happen 30 years down the road.   [00:40:46] And of course in the message that you've just given your child is that staying together is more important than the individual truth. I mean you know that is what what you've just said.   [00:41:00] But I think there is another way of saying it and that's what I wished I had been able to do when my children were young is two is when they come home with fears like that is to say in a relationship you get to choose every day whether you're going to be together or whether it's better for you to be apart and you always have to listen to what's best for you because that's that is your primary responsibility is to make sure that your needs are being met and your dreams are being fulfilled and your being the most important person in your life. So I think there's a way for them for you to model that this is how a relationship works it's it's an everyday decision it's an every moment decision.   [00:41:52] Yeah I agree with that and of course our first instinct is to protect them and make sure that they're not feeling anything that they don't want to feel.   [00:42:05] And so we're just training them to wear it down.   [00:42:09] Feelings. Yeah. You're so right on. I love that so we can actually come to our kids and say this might be better for that person at this time in their life. And we always get to choose. I love that every day we get to choose if we're going to be together and yeah and two and two.   [00:42:31] I mean it's a way of showing them that the power the power of their life resides within them that they don't perfect no one outside of them gets to say what happens and why they're the ones that get to decide.   [00:42:49] Yes I want to talk about men for a second because there are so many men who are great guys that have huge hearts who really want to just do the best and be the best here.   [00:43:07] But I have actually had 80 year old 70 year old 60 year old women come to me and say there is no passion left in my relationship and I don't know if I want to spend my last years living with no passion.   [00:43:27] So I'm kind of breaking down two different things here. We have females who are feeling just the mundane ness and no passion there. And there are men who want to change. There are men who don't want to change but I really feel into the male energy. They're so confused right now about who they're supposed to be what they're supposed to be how do we help men that is in a way that we're not coming at them where they feel attacked.   [00:43:58] How do we help them to support us more. This is a big question too of course because I have three sons and I whom I love and want to see you succeed in every way. However I don't think it is the responsibility of women to help men become men become human to become themselves. That is something that we've been doing for a long time and we have to step back from that role now.   [00:44:32] We have to allow men too big to come into their full humanity. And I recognize that this is actually quite frightening for all of us. The hardest thing for us to do is to be ourselves and why that should be. I have no idea. But we have so much fear of being seen for who we are that it's crippling us. So that is something that I feel men are going to have to deal with. And it's not going to be an easy road for them just as it hasn't been an easy road for us. But the passion of a relationship in my opinion or at least for me would be to come together in a new moment in every moment because the truth of it is that we are different in every moment. And if we're being honest and true to who we are we are coming to the relationship in a new way in every moment. And so we're not riding on the past. We're not projecting into the future. We are in the present moment and the passion lies in being new to each other in that moment.   [00:45:46] And so each of the partners is responsible for coming to that union for themselves. So we can't really do the work for the men. They're going to have to make their way that they're on their own. And women are awakening at such a rate that they're not willing to spend another moment in a life that isn't rich with with newness and presence. So when I first started on this path I started looking at the divorce statistics and the highest rate of divorce is still amongst quite young. From twenty three to twenty six or something like that. But the fastest growing rate of divorce is in the older age groups. And this is because we're starting to allow that a relationship that isn't serving us has come to completion and we are allowing ourselves to feel that there's there's it's harder and it's serves us less to be in a relationship that isn't present where there isn't presence than it is to just continue on the path that they had going because none of us knows how long we're going to live every moment becomes precious.   [00:47:05] So well said K.. Thank you so much. So are you working on another book. So if you can't talk about it it's okay.   [00:47:15] I just yeah I I have been. This is my heart's desire is definitely to to write and express and teach through through that process. And I I almost I think it's true of most writers that you prefer to the stuff that comes after which is promoting and marketing the book. So I've been kind of waiting and waiting and wondering what was going to be next and I have a project that has come into my life that I'm really excited about. It's just in the very early stages but it's got me feeling really excited about the incredible power of this particular story to set people free.   [00:48:09] It's really exciting to me and I'm looking forward to kind of diving in. Indeed.   [00:48:14] That is so exciting because that's where we're all at right now is this awakening and setting ourselves free. So what a gift.   [00:48:22] Thank you. My pleasure. You know Kate I always ask everybody on the show Who Do You Think That I should interview next. Who do you know that I should interview.   [00:48:33] That is such a hard question because I know so many incredible souls who are doing such incredible work. I mean my my network of teachers give me a couple. OK. OK so one of I have a friend. Her name is Alexis shell. She's a children's book author and she teaches yoga to children.   [00:48:55] And she is deeply passionate about helping younger people who are challenged by the heaviness of the times.   [00:49:13] And she is honestly she is like an angel on earth. She says the most loving presence and she's written a couple of children's books. And I think that in terms of Conscious parenting she is really somebody.   [00:49:32] Oh I have to have her on. I've had at least four parents in over the last month who their children are so empathic that they are picking up the blockages of their parents and they're carrying them. And this is something that we're seeing a lot of right now because these young children who have come in over the last 15 years are so much more high vibrational than the rest of us and they're just so empathic.   [00:50:07] It would be wonderful. Yes. And part of that that understanding is that as the children contain more light in their in their DNA and their genome and they come down into the three the 3D experience the the challenge of that is overwhelming. And so that's right at the point where Alexa is in helping the children develop the techniques and practices that can help them through that because it's critically important that we teach them how to inner resource because we can't necessarily give them everything that they're going to need. They have to develop the skills themselves and also she's able to help parents understand how to guide with love and compassion and understanding. And in this process we're going to change everything about how we raise our children. We're gonna be changing the educational system. We're gonna be changing. We're going to be changing the religious structures and society and all the stuff that's around the concept of family.   [00:51:22] We're gonna be we're gonna be over on the precipice. Yeah we're on the precipice of all that. I know. I love it every time I see teachers bringing yoga into the classroom I'm like it's starting. Yeah yeah yeah. And meditation and yes.   [00:51:40] Well one more question. Actually two more questions for you. Where can people find you if they want to find you online.   [00:51:47] Ok so of course I'm on Facebook. I have both a personal page chaotic and I have a page for the book Divorce a love story which lists all my events which I have at about coming up in Wheaton on April 4th at 7 p.m. at Prairie path books in their new location in town square. Very excited about that. And so and then on Instagram I met is awake and yeah. Right now that's those are the best ways.   [00:52:24] Beautiful. Final question.   [00:52:27] This is a biggie but if you had long time in the future when you have done everything that you want to do here and if you had to leave your children with one final message one piece of advice what would you tell them.   [00:52:46] I think for moms it's almost impossible to live your life without that thought. What would I be teaching my children if I did this if I did that.   [00:52:58] And I think this is why we have children because it it drives us into a higher version of ourselves. And it's like a constant echo of our actions and behaviors. How is this going to be perceived by my children. It's such a gift it's a gift beyond words to have those little mirrors in your life.   [00:53:25] And I want my children to see that throughout my life I have been working to become a truer version of myself and that that took a huge amount of courage and that their my love for them was that is the driving force behind behind that and my love for myself.   [00:54:04] Yeah I think I would love to have them recognized that. But I also recognize that because they're individuals that might not be their experience of my life. They're going to have their own experience of my life.   [00:54:21] And I have to be OK with that.   [00:54:24] Well you've given ISIS so much to think about today so eat many yummy nuggets of just great information. And I thank you so so much for being on the show today. And just for your time. And for you bringing your energy.   [00:54:41] Can I just also add a book is available on both Barnes and Noble and so on.   [00:54:48] I'm so sorry I had that in my notes and then I just shut it out. Yes. Thank you so much.   [00:54:53] And you should really purchase the book because it is an amazing read and I love Amazon you buy it on there and then it's at your house the next day which is fabulous. And I've even seen you you can read it once you buy it on Amazon you can start reading it right away I believe on the Kindle which is fantastic.   [00:55:12] You know I it's not a very long book but it's packed and I I'm not saying this only for my own benefit but I really encourage people to get the hardcover because there is a trance a healing transmission in the book and as you read it I think you're going to find that you can come back to it again and again for that healing no matter what you're going through. And I I just want to add that the book is really not just for people who are going through a divorce because it also talks a lot about how to be in a conscious relationship and how to allow your greatest challenges to serve your greatest growth and how the process of self-love really looks and how it heals. And one of the surprises for me has been how younger people have told me that it has helped them heal from their parents divorce because you know we've been affected by divorce in on many different levels as friends relatives children and partners. So it has it has a healing for for all of us around the whole issue of relationships.   [00:56:35] Yeah. So a perfect read for everybody in the family. Yeah I love that. Thank you so much. I'm so glad you caught that. Thank you Kay.   [00:56:44] Thank you Julie. It's been a pleasure to be here with you.   [00:56:47] Oh good. Good. Well I'm sure we'll have you on again soon. OK. 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Connect with your higher self in this deep meditation, led by Nikki Hartley who is a Yoga Teacher, Meditation Teacher and much, much more! She teaches at the University of Colorado. Don't forget to check out my interview with Nikki that we put up on Monday about positive money mindset! Visit Nikki's website www.mindbodymana.com and follow her on social @mindbodymana.   Julie's Reiki Certification & Angel School Course 2 Days Only - Saturday, April 13 & Sunday, April 14 ONLY 5 SPOTS LEFT! Students will:  Earn 2 certifications in one weekend. Become a certified Master Teacher in Reiki Energy Healing. Learn How to Communicate with Angels and Loved Ones (and bring through messages). Develop Your Spiritual Gifts. Learn Energy Healing. Receive Supervised Practice. 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Blonde Boutique Website Blonde Boutique Instagram   Prayer Jar Add your name (or the name of a family member/friend) to Julie's prayer jar, and she will pray for you/them every morning. All you have to do is subscribe on Julie's website:  www.jancius.com   Show Notes *Show notes recorded by Sonix.AI. I know it's not the best transcription, but being a mom too, I don't have time to go in and edit it! If anyone wants to volunteer for this job, let me know! : ) [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to this guided meditation where you'll be accessing your highest self. Please allow yourself ample time to do this meditation and remember — Do not ever operate a heavy machinery or car while listening to this recording. And now let's begin. Allow yourself to get completely comfortable. Either lying in a chair. Or on your bed. Taking a nice big deep breath.   [00:00:48] And as you release it. Imagine the tension beginning to leave your body   [00:01:01] With your eyes closed.   [00:01:04] I want you to focus your attention at the bottoms of your feet. Imagine that there are cords. Going from the soles of your feet deep down into the earth. Grounding you. Connecting you. Imagine that there is now a stream of liquid relaxation flowing up through the center. Of those cords   [00:01:52] And into the soles of your feet. Imagine that liquid relaxation   [00:02:07] Is now spreading throughout the bottoms of your feet. Relaxing you   [00:02:21] Feeling very calm and peaceful. Any outside noises that you may become aware of. Will simply help you to relax more   [00:02:42] And more. That liquid relaxation. Is now spreading   [00:03:00] Spreading to the tops of your feet. Your ankles. Relaxing you even more. You feel yourself sinking deeper. And deeper down. Continuing to focus on this very pleasant feeling. That liquid relaxation. Now spreads through your shins. Your calves. Your knees. Your thighs   [00:04:06] And your legs are feeling very relaxed. Now. Sinking deeper. And deeper down. That liquid relaxation is now flowing through your hips. Your pelvis. Your stomach. Feeling very relaxed. And so peaceful. And feels so good. To just let go   [00:05:01] And allow this liquid relaxation. To spread throughout. Your body   [00:05:14] Through every nerve. Or again in muscle. Liquid relaxation. Is now flowing into your chest. Filling your heart and lungs   [00:05:44] Allowing you to breathe deeper. And even more relaxed. Now that liquid relaxation is spreading to your shoulders. Softening all the muscles there in your shoulders. It might even feel like a great weight   [00:06:24] Has just been lifted. From your shoulders. Allowing you to relax even more. Sinking deeper down. The liquid relaxation now spreads. From your shoulders. Down through. The. Softening. Each and every muscle. Now that liquid relaxation spreads   [00:07:31] From your shoulders down through each arm. Down through those. Your forearms. Your wrist. Your hands. All the way down through your fingertips. So calm. So peaceful. The liquid relaxation is now spreading   [00:08:25] Through your neck. Three or Chen and. Through your cheeks. Three or four   [00:08:55] On top of your hand. Every part of your face is completely relaxed now. In fact. Your entire body. From the tips of your toes to the top of your head is filled with this wonderful. Liquid. Relaxation   [00:09:37] And right now you are feeling so calm and so peaceful. Enjoying this pleasant feeling allowing your mind. Your body. And your highest self. To be in complete. Harmony. Perfectly relaxed   [00:10:24] And calm. As you enjoy this deeply relaxed state   [00:10:44] Allow the sound of my voice to guide you. Into just. The right state every sensitivity. To easily become aware of the presence. Of your true   [00:11:06] Highest Self. Scan your body. With this relaxed awareness. Notice any areas of tension. And then let them release. As you contemplate   [00:11:46] That which you are now doing for yourself is for your very highest benefit. And your higher self. Is always present   [00:12:10] Whether or not you are consciously aware of it. Now. To give you everything you need. In the way of guidance. And support. To free you from those problems. Any unnecessary limitations. That are getting ready. To be released easily   [00:12:58] In just the right way. For you. To keep whatever is of value. For you. Releasing. Dissolving whatever needs to release the problems now   [00:13:33] Feel yourself breathing as you go even deeper into relaxation. Letting your unconscious mind handle the reevaluation of these problems in the healing. Loving Light   [00:14:03] Of your highest self. As you become aware of it now in some way. Or another. Begin to have a sense. Begin to truly become aware now that your body. Is being surrounded. By a golden white light of pure. Loving. Energy   [00:14:55] A golden white light surrounding your body. Now. This is becoming more apparent to you   [00:15:13] In many interesting ways. Breath by breath. You feel good. As you picture and imagine this light all around you. And you begin to recognize. In a surprising   [00:15:52] And secure way. That this light is full of intelligence. And a deep healing power   [00:16:11] And it is welcoming you into its presence. Now. In such a way. That you are learning to remember. That it is always surrounding you that it has always. Surrounded you. And from now on. You can think about it. And that causes your experience of the presence of your highest self to be enhanced even more. As you learn to listen to its guidance with more and more trust. With each. Relaxed breath. Opening deeper and deeper to its healing energy. Deeper. And deeper. Learning to trust your own true. Inner goodness   [00:18:06] Your own true inner goodness.   [00:18:19] As you do this the light begins to lift you up. Lifting you up higher and higher   [00:18:33] Into the presence of your highest self. Think about all the ways you used to think you weren't worthy of contacting this inner goodness. In that dissolves into the light that is surrounding you. And you feel yourself being lifted. Higher. And higher. Opening more. And more. Offer. Any doubts. Or hesitations into this light. In such a way. That you sense them becoming obsolete and then dissolving as you breathe the light into your being. To be carried to every cell of your body. Ride along   [00:20:12] With the oxygen that you breathe. It's being delivered so. Effortlessly. That your unconscious mind. Whether or not. You think about it consciously now. Relax with the feeling of this goodness. Gently touching. Every part of your being. Bringing healing. They choose and waiting energy. Everywhere. That it is needed. You feel yourself going higher   [00:21:20] And closer to your highest self. And you get to share in this process by taking a wonderful breath as you imagine this light. This healing loving energy spreading throughout your being. Deeper   [00:22:14] And deeper. Easily. Effortlessly. With each. Dissolving what ever thoughts or feelings may arise. Whether good or bad give in to this he. Allowing. Offering all your thoughts all your feelings   [00:23:20] Into this light.   [00:23:27] To be healed. And transformed in just the right ways. For your own   [00:23:40] Highest benefit. You are completely ready now. To arrive in the presence   [00:24:08] Of your higher self. On the count of three. Imagine yourself standing easily erect. And at ease. In the presence of your highest self. Surrounded by this loving. Beautiful energy. Recognize that this is the unconditional love. Of your own inner purity. The true integrity of your being   [00:25:20] That is so pure so free that it is not tainted or diminished by anything you have ever thought. Or said. It is not tainted or diminished by anything. That has been   [00:25:49] The. Or to you. By anyone else   [00:26:07] As you think about this. Now. Your unconscious mind. And the energizing or a. Of your highest self. Completely. And effortlessly. Reevaluate all of your life experiences. Beliefs. And. Attitudes in such a way that you are released. From what. Ever you need to be released from. In order to come into total alignment. With their purity. And your highest self. In such a way that it flows unobstructed through out your being. Now   [00:27:22] Free. That in and again. As your unconscious mind also keeps every thing that is truly of value to you. From your life experience   [00:28:03] This helps to keep make things easy for you. To come into full. Open alignment. With the presence and energy. Of your highest self. Your true being. Imagine a stream of gold and white light   [00:28:39] Streaming into the top of your head. From this source of infinite. Loving. Healing intelligence. You   [00:29:07] Imagined it flowing down into your heart. It's filling your hearts. With loving. Healing energy. Loving Healing energy feeling your heart. That begins now. To radiate   [00:29:51] Throughout your entire body. Throughout your being. Permeating. Every cell of your being with this infinite healing nothing energy. That recognizes your true needs. Even if you yourself. Haven't yet consciously recognized them. Relax into this light. And allow it to lift. These needs. Out of your being. To present. Them. Into the loving intelligence of this light as. Offerings. And quest for purification. Healing. And enlightenment. Powerful genuine learnings of all kinds. For the sake of your highest benefit. And the highest benefit of all beings   [00:32:12] Open to this. Make an energy gesture. With your whole heart and soul. That this be so. Now relax. Feeling it permeating and surrounding your body. In a protective. And magnetic or. That draws these blessings to you   [00:33:06] As you experience these wonderful relaxed feelings thinking whatever thoughts that are being exposed and the light of your highest self. You can now ask questions of your highest self. Carrying on in inner dialogue   [00:33:41] And an inner communion. In. Any way you wish. I will remain silent for a few minutes   [00:36:04] In a moment. I will count from one to five. Bringing you back to normal waking consciousness. On the count of fun. Understand that all you have learned and experienced in this healing session will only continue to grow. In beneficial ways in your being. Thus generating new and deeper bonds. Between your higher self. And your ordinary. Waking consciousness. Your dream consciousness and your deep sleep state. In such a way. That you are more. And more weight. To your own inner goodness. Expressing it more. And more easily. Joyfully. And in all ways appropriately for the highest benefit of yourself. And all beings. Now. In moment by moment   [00:37:47] Day by day into your future. One. Beginning to come back. Coming back more and more. All the energy and learnings of this experience being effortlessly enjoyably absorbed into your being. Being absorbed into every cell of your body. Three. Moving your fingers and toes. Moving your fingers and toes. More and more awake   [00:38:58] Carrying these new learnings and empowerment into your future. Starting now. For. Breathe in wakeful energy. Taken another deep breath of wakeful energy. Clearing your head. Balancing your energies feeling wonderful in every way   [00:39:40] Five. 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How do you see money? Do you see it as dirty? Do you see it as your friend? In this episode, Nikki Hartley teaches us how to develop a positive relationship with money. Nikki is a Meditation Teacher, Yoga Teacher, Psychotherapist, and much, much more! She teaches at the University of Colorado. Follow her at www.mindbodymana.com and @mindbodymana.   Julie's Reiki Certification & Angel School Course 2 Days Only - Saturday, April 13 & Sunday, April 14 ONLY 6 SPOTS LEFT! Students will:  Earn 2 certifications in one weekend. Become a certified Master Teacher in Reiki Energy Healing. Learn How to Communicate with Angels and Loved Ones (and bring through messages). Develop Your Spiritual Gifts. Learn Energy Healing. Receive Supervised Practice. Become a Jancius Angel Energy Advanced Practitioner which gives you the ability to work on clients (and accept payment from clients) after level 3. Learn more & register for the Course at:  www.jancius.com/courses   Continue the Conversation on Instagram! Follow Julie, then ask a question on social media and Julie may answer it on the podcast! Or she might just ask you to be on the show! Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   Be on The Show Want to record a session for the podcast or tell a story about your loved ones coming through from the Other Side? Have a story about Angels helping you? Email us at: juliejancius@gmail.com   Meet Julie in Person! Blonde Boutique in Glen Ellyn April 11, 2019 from 6 - 10 pm Julie will be giving mini-Angel Message Readings that night! Blonde Boutique Website Blonde Boutique Instagram   Prayer Jar Add your name (or the name of a family member/friend) to Julie's prayer jar, and she will pray for you/them every morning. All you have to do is subscribe on Julie's website:  www.jancius.com   Show Notes *Show notes recorded by Sonix.AI. I know it's not the best transcription, but being a mom too, I don't have time to go in and edit it! If anyone wants to volunteer for this job, let me know! : ) [00:00:00] Hello friends. It's Julie and I am so excited because I have a dream coming true right now, and I am so excited to share it with you. So for the last couple of years I've been daydreaming in my meditation.   [00:00:14] I've been going into it and seeing the words Angel school. It's something that spirit has really brought to me and it's really coming to fruition. So I want you to know about it. Through this angel school that I'm going to be starting in April. It's just one weekend one weekend only April 13th and 14th.   [00:00:38] Well through this angel school what you're going to learn to do is Reiki and how to bring through your spiritual gifts. So you will get certified in two separate things. If you come to my course you will get Reiki certification, you will be a Reiki master teacher and you will also get certified in my angel school in bringing through Angel messages learning how to communicate with your angels how to really develop your spiritual gifts you're going to learn how I do energy healing what my processes how I work with my clients how I hear from the other side and bring through those messages. Now if you're thinking, "Well that's awesome Julie, I'd really like to learn that but I don't think I want to be a Reiki teacher." That's OK. You don't have to go into this full time. You don't have to make this your profession. There are so many people out there who just want to learn how to connect with the other side or themselves. And if that's you that's awesome. That's beautiful. And really this class will help you shape your life in every different aspect of your life. So really groundbreaking really fine amazing work that we're doing here and I'm just so excited to share it with you.   [00:02:00] So in this class here's what you're gonna get. You're gonna become a Reiki master teacher. You're going to learn how to communicate with Angels how I bring through messages you're going to learn how to develop your spiritual gift because as you go through this course over these two days your gifts are gonna come out and we're gonna show you how to work with them. You're also going to learn energy healing through supervised practice on other people. So working on people really helps you to understand what you're hearing and when somebody talks back to you and says you know yes. Oh my gosh you're bringing through exactly what I needed to hear. It just is so validating and it helps you really develop your gifts and you're also going to learn all the insights into how I do what I do and that is Angel School. So if you'd like more details go online to my Web site. www.jancius.com   [00:03:02] You can also email me for details at juliejancius@gmail.com. I'll send those to you. But again it is coming up soon.   [00:03:08] It's Saturday April 13th and Sunday April 14th, again that's Saturday April 13th and Sunday April 14th. So I am so excited I hope you guys are pumped too and I hope you guys go online or e-mail me to learn more   [00:03:34] Hello friends. I am so so excited about our guests today. Nikki Hartley and I have to say, even before we get started, Nikki is a complete saint.   [00:03:45] We have tried this podcast three different times and she has just worked with me on it, because it didn't work, the audio it didn't record it, and we just couldn't get a good recording. So she's back. She's still working with us. We've got great information for you today and you're just going to absolutely love her like I do. So as I just said I've gotten the opportunity to talk with Nikki four hours before I interviewed her. Nikki is an expert in many holistic fields. She's a registered hypnotherapist a psychotherapist a meditation teacher yoga teacher mindset coach. She's based in Boulder Colorado and she's even taught at the University of Colorado. She's also a mom to two young kiddos. Yeah. Nikki and I both share a passion for understanding how the brain works and how it can heal itself through various methods. So we're going to cover it all today. Nikki thank you so much for being here.   [00:04:50] Thank you Julie for inviting me. I'm so excited to be here.   [00:04:53] Yay. In the introduction what did I miss. Is there anything else that you want to share with people.   [00:04:59] No actually it sounds like you covered it all.   [00:05:02] Oh good. And you know some people like it at the beginning some people like to hear it at the end. But for people who are online right now and they want to check you out where can they find you.   [00:05:11] Oh my Web site is www.mindbodymana.com   [00:05:21] Perfect. So today we're really going to talk about let's start with the brain.   [00:05:27] The brain works how it's tied to our spiritual selves. Let's talk about neuroplasticity for those who don't know what neuroplasticity is. Can you explain it from ground zero.   [00:05:42] So neuroplasticity is when the brain requires itself.   [00:05:46] When we put in new thoughts or new beliefs or new habits the synopsis in the brain actually change and they started growing together in a different way letting go of the way our brain used to wire and think and behave.   [00:06:00] That's awesome. So really by changing our thoughts we can really change our lives. Right.   [00:06:06] Oh absolutely. When you change your thoughts you do change your life. And there's this there's so many wonderful tools to get to those changes people to see to find what resonates with them.   [00:06:19] So how did they start with that.   [00:06:21] So when I do mindset coaching I try to give various tools. One of them might be meditation. Meditation is a great tool to help people get into a different brain state. Brain waves activate differently when you're in meditation so that you can make those changes subconsciously if you want a faster track.   [00:06:41] You would use something like Kipnis therapy because you would change the brainwaves pretty quickly like immediately actually from theta to theta or Alpha and then you can use really easy things like journaling I know journaling super popular but it really does change the way that we have our external experiences because we're putting we're cementing or putting in concrete our thoughts.   [00:07:08] And then when we write it down it kind of makes it more concrete tangible like you have this more visceral reaction to what you experienced earlier.   [00:07:19] And then there are other ways that you can change brain by like changing habits like things that you do daily like if you wake up earlier and you do something differently in the morning like that can totally set the tone for how you're going to live your life and like do things the rest of the day if you start an exercise routine yoga routine meditation routine again. Let's see what else do I recommend.   [00:07:45] Because once you like once you're in it for that many days you're really concrete. How many days did you say it is.   [00:07:53] Oh I did it on but it usually takes 21 to 30 days to change your mindset or a habit or develop a habit because sometimes habits are good and you want to get a new habit. But yet 21 to 30 days typically and you have to do it diligently you can't do it once they like. It's been 21 days and I did that one thing.   [00:08:14] So let's go through some common examples that I see with my clients of mindset because a lot of these mindsets come in in our younger years right. There's different ones that we develop as kids you know sometimes if our parents don't have a good relationship we create this mindset of well I'm like them so I'm not going to have a good relationship too. Or if mom and dad maybe struggled with money. We saw that as younger kids and we come in. We say well I'm going to struggle with money to struggling with money is a part of life and some things that I find my clients tell themselves with in their mind. So how would you show people in those two instances to get out of that mindset.   [00:09:04] And that's a great question. So you basically need to go back to the brain state that you're in and the time period that that anchored in infants are typically in a Delta brain state.   [00:09:20] And so they're really connected to the subconscious and then kids between the ages of 2 to 7 are in an alpha brain state which is like they're aware but like they're really easily put into like a dreamlike state. So that's why kids have such an easy time playing pretend like you could tell your kid like pretend you're a tree and they'll pretend they're a tree and then like hours later they're like I'm still a tree.   [00:09:46] It's because they're in that alpha type brain state where there's a ton of creativity happening and then around 12 they slip into beta which is where there's a huge range and beta brainwaves from know normal awake state to like really high functioning beta where you're stressed out. Anyway as I say all that because in those alpha states between the ages of two to seven is when that pretend stage is happening and if they see negative external circumstances or they hear negative replies or they get negative feedback that kind of starts to anchor in their belief system and they play pretend I use air quotes that reality. So if they have a lot of hardship they have a lot of trauma they have a lot of difficulty they might be resilient because they're not going to really fully understand reality because they're in that create the Alpha Brain Wave like a different reality but it's still going to set the tone for how they're going to behave later. That's why kids everyone's like teenagers are so difficult while teenagers are mimicking and acting out now when they gain the autonomy to what they saw in their early life. And then when we become adults we still have the ability to do like change things and see things like shiny objects so we distract ourselves. So to change the beliefs about money you really have to create a new belief and a new habits and how money comes money can come from source or all that is or the universe whatever your higher believing belief system is from an infinite amount of ways like we try to control how we receive money right we go to work we get a paycheck and then if you run out of that paycheck you're like I'm out of money or there's not enough money or there's always all these bills coming.   [00:11:42] While that may be true but then you're closing yourself off from trusting that money can come from an infinite amount of ways more than we are aware or allow ourselves to believe.   [00:11:55] And so we really have to start opening our belief system to the idea that money doesn't have to come from a job. Money can come from any place and then we have to change our relationship with money.   [00:12:10] You have to start believing that you're worthy of money that your frequencies are going to attract money and if you're living in these lower vibe frequencies like a fear mentality fear based lack struggle then you're going to push money away like source is not going to bring in these things because it's you're putting out the energetic frequency if I'm scared of it or I'm not and I'm not worthy of it or I'm not good enough for money doesn't like me.   [00:12:41] So you have to create a different energy. I mean money is just energy.   [00:12:44] It's like we can spend money without actually holding it. You know we have debit cards and or we can have the tangible money like that we hold in our hands. However it's all just numbers and digital and like it's just an energy exchange right.   [00:13:00] It's just an energy exchange. So you have to change the relationship with money and become friends with money and you hang out differently.   [00:13:07] And like you might spend something. That's why people always say like you get more by giving. And it's so true because when you have more to give or you have this energy of like I have this in abundance then you seem to always have enough and more than enough because you're able to share.   [00:13:25] So really changing your belief system about money changing your ideas of how money works and then creating new habits of how you interact with money are going to 100 percent change the relationship. In the money that comes to you and there's plenty of different ways to do that again you have to find what resonates with you.   [00:13:48] Some examples off the top of my head. Some people like to use old checkbooks and write themselves like a paper check. And then like they deposit it again air quotes deposit it mentally in there.   [00:14:03] Like thinking they deposit it not in real life. Yeah I know what you're saying. I'm just making sure everybody else knew.   [00:14:09] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or like some people even create a web of a spreadsheet like income spreadsheets online like in Google Docs or something and everyday you deposit fifty dollars and you're like got fifty dollars and so you're just open to getting the 50 dollars not controlling where it comes from. Some people leave money jars around the house and like if they get changed and the like drop it in one jar they have cash they'll drop it in another jar if they have a check they'll put it in another jar and then you just visually see this abundance of money all around you.   [00:14:42] I really like that one. I think I'm going to use that one.   [00:14:47] You really are like wow I have all this money I'm never in black I always have enough there's money all around me all the time because you can put the jars in different rooms and another one would be to spend money like you already have it. That one is a little tricky because if you're still on that real fear based mentality and you haven't really shifted into the trust of the universe bringing you money from infinite amount of ways then if you go out and put a bunch of expensive stuff on your credit cards if you're in that fear based mentality then you're just gonna be in debt.   [00:15:24] So I suggest if it's an old anchored belief and they've been dealing with money struggle for a long time. Start either with the checks that you write you know you hypothetically write yourself the spreadsheets or district collecting change and put it in the little jars the little money jars throughout your house.   [00:15:46] Yeah because we you know it's interesting. What. And you know I love the analytical part of me I love you know the woohoo and this is probably too analytical for the Lulu.   [00:15:58] But you know one of the examples that I've seen is you know without even any names or who anybody is. But I have somebody who came to see me who said you know here's the situation where about three months away from losing our house.   [00:16:16] So my husband says I know this money is coming I feel like it's coming but I don't want to sell the house I don't want to sell the house but the message that had been coming through to her the entire year that she had been coming to see me was sell the house sell the house and I said Have you sat down to look at the finances. And she said no I don't want to look at the finances. So I think you know I totally agree I totally believing and having that mentality. But at the same time we can't totally turn like this blind eye. She even threw back at me she said you know well I went to see somebody else and they told me that I'm going to win the lottery. So I'm just thinking I'm winning the lottery. And I said you can't. Now look at your finances you can't not. Has she said My husband wanted to sit down with me my husband wanted to sit down and she won't sit down and look at it. So what was spiritually shows me is we have to give 100 percent and then they give 100 percent right. If we're not given that hundred percent and we're not open to the truth of it all to me it just gets a little dicey.   [00:17:32] Oh true and it sounds like she was still being fearful around looking at money instead of being like all right friend let's negotiate. Let's see what you have to bring to the table and then how can we work together. It sounded like she's like Oh no I'm just going to avoid this and hope it goes away or solves itself. And you're right. So when we are really upfront and honest and like we look at a situation that might be uncomfortable or unpleasant regarding money because we do live in a society where we need money most of us do to like pay our mortgage or pay our car payments or the utilities food.   [00:18:10] When you actually look at like how that relationship's going if you're telling money like I don't deserve you all I know is there's not enough of you to go around and you make me upset and all you do is cause stress in my life.   [00:18:24] And that energy exchange is going to be really difficult. It wouldn't be the same as if you treated another human that way. Right. So if you were constantly like this is my friend this is my roommate we live together. But every time they're around they totally freak me out. I don't really like them here. I don't feel like I deserve a roommate because I'm totally messy and they probably don't even like living with me like then you're gonna have a really strange relationship.   [00:18:53] Everything in this world in this universe is an energy exchange every single thing. So change your relationship with money change how you interact with money change how you think about money change how you have a relationship with money the same you would do with a human or a pet or your garden. Have you seen those videos where people like talk to plants and like they're really mean to the plants and they're like you're ugly you're worthless and the plant dies. Yes same thing. It's an energy exchange like there's something really powerful with words obviously but that energy that's there behind it.   [00:19:30] So you did this with water and rice too and the rice that was in the water that was spoken mainly and negatively too grew mold done it. Whereas the other one didn't. It's it's amazing it's so fascinating.   [00:19:45] So if you're talking ugly or thinking ugly about money what do you think's going to happen. It's going to shrivel up and die and grow mold or it's going to stay away from you.   [00:19:57] So don't do that.   [00:19:59] Talk to money like your best friends. Like I love you so much. Let's hang out. Let's go have fun together.   [00:20:04] Yeah well I did. That is interesting because you know I'm still doing some work on this myself but I tend to see it as dirty.   [00:20:13] Yeah.   [00:20:13] And in the spiritual like the things that you and I do we feel and because of our backgrounds I think that there is a little bit of residual belief or guilt behind money and receiving money for helping others when our gifts are so natural we think like oh I should just help everybody freely from the kindness of my heart. And that would be great if we could pay our bills in kindness.   [00:20:42] Yeah. And you know and I do eat.   [00:20:44] That's so true because that happens quite often actually people call and ask for a free reading and you know I would love to be able to help as many as people as I can and where I can I do provide discounts to people if they really do need that help and they reach out to me. But I have to be able to contribute to the monthly income. Otherwise we're in a deficit every month.   [00:21:09] True. And when I went through my Reiki master training I was living in Hawaii and I had the most amazing reiki master as my teacher and she told me in Reiki is an energy exchange. It's a Japanese form of energy healing. However if what you need whatever you need.   [00:21:29] We always try to take care of ourselves and whatever you need for the other person to receive the highest benefit from you is what you should receive. And Dr. Tsui the man who is responsible for creating reiki and bringing it over here. He even wrote recognize that in his own teachings he was trying to help all these people by giving them reiki and healing their energy and improving their lives.   [00:21:57] And he realized when there wasn't a good energy exchange that they resorted back to who they were and they went back to living in a lower frequency or going back to committing crimes or living on the street because they didn't value his offerings. And so the good energy exchange whatever people decide to put on it if it's if you if you feel good about doing the job and they feel like they've invested in themselves that's a better energy exchange so that both people benefit. Otherwise if you do something for free and you're kind of like miffed about it like this isn't serving me I don't get anything out of this the attitude you're going to bring to the situation is I don't want to be here and then you cut yourself off from source.   [00:22:47] Right. Right. That's true. Let's talk about vibrations a little bit because you know one of the things that we talk about on this podcast and one of the things that Spirit shows me is where we're touching on this but I want to go deeper into it.   [00:23:01] So when we talk about human being the humanist is the body the beingness is the soul the body has one set of vibrations or frequencies to it and we can optimize those frequencies to be of its best health. But that's not what we're talking about today. I want to talk about the soul and the different set of frequencies vibrations that the soul has to it because what came out about in our conversation and I think really what I've been searching for since my dad passed away and I got into this is I can tap into this higher frequency through my crown chakra and I've taught so many people how to do this too.   [00:23:45] I really feel like it's a huge component of the work that I do.   [00:23:52] And aides called so many different things right. I mean they think that this is what Eckhart Tolle is talking about when he calls it a Power of Now. You know people are calling it so many different words and terms but you had mentioned alpha beta and theta states. And what I'm wondering as I'm bringing this knowledge to our listeners I want to talk more and more with people who are scientifically knowledgeable about this wondering if I should go to one of the scientists out there who are studying Alpha Beta Theta states.   [00:24:28] Is it a theta state. Is that with that frequency is.   [00:24:32] Absolutely.   [00:24:32] So when we I think I mentioned this a little earlier but the average person when they're awake is running on Beta Beta is our conscious state and there's a huge frequency range and Beta 2 where you can be like reading a book that's a relaxed beta state and then the next level would be like learning where you're engaged you're a little bit more aware and alert but you're taking processing information you're taking it in.   [00:25:02] Then there's high beta where it's survival fight or flight cortisol pumpin like you are stressed out like there's a bear chasing me.   [00:25:12] Now most people live somewhere between that learning and engaged beta state which is like the medium one to like even a high beta states where they are just like my job a stressful family stressful traffic is stressful paying my bills stressful stressful and they are just constantly getting all the brain to pump all these different hormones and all of these different neurotransmitters into the nervous system which is called the sympathetic nervous system where they are just going to be on high alert all the time.   [00:25:47] You're not going to take an information you're going to be very disconnected and it's the lowest frequency or vibe that we can meet that is the that that is the frequency that most human beings are operating at right now within their body that is more the body's frequency right.   [00:26:07] Correct. And you can test this like if you look at a EEG machine like there's been all these tests where it's just that frequency is being emitted.   [00:26:16] And so to change that to change the frequency to change how you to put your body out of the M.S. and into the passenger seat because you really want the mind to be in control then you have to go into meditation which is going to take you to an alpha state it's where you're relaxed you know you're not you're not as stressed you're more like in a nice daydream state theta is where your brain goes into awareness but your body is asleep. You have now taken the body completely out of the driver's seat and you're in your subconscious mind. However yes you're still aware and you're really able to get into the reprogramming of the brain you're able to let go of the old habits old beliefs negative thinking and theta theta can happen if you're really well practiced in meditation or I hypnotherapy where you bypass the alpha state right into theta the body's sleep the minds are aware and you can start reprogramming when you're an alpha brainwaves. We talked on this earlier with kids where they're able to play so you get out of that survival mode and beta and you get into that creative place. That's what the alpha is going to do.   [00:27:36] You're actually functioning in your daily life while you're living. And it's it's like a meditative state but it's so much more than that it's a blissed out.   [00:27:47] Yeah. So you're aware and you're mindful that's where all the Mindful talk comes in. It's like how can I. What is Mindfulness. What is Mindfulness. Mindfulness is getting you out of beta into alpha in you're just really present really super presence of everything happening in your life and you can say things like I'm angry but then you're gonna go why am I angry. Oh because I'm sitting in traffic and this person in front of me is driving really slow and I have to be at work in five minutes you can have that analytical conversation like you would in beta but you're just more present and then you're able to stop yourself and go I'm going to get there. It's not a big deal. It's like you're just more present and aware of what's happening in your day to day life where beta you're just like I need to get there I'm angry. This person needs to move out of my way like kids or you're just like I'm angry and you say it I'm angry and you don't really reflect on what's causing it and how you can help yourself and figure out what you need. But yes. So high frequencies would be theta. Delta is when you're just completely knocked out like it's when we're dreaming asleep so Delta is that past Alpha.   [00:28:56] Yeah. So they're the alpha. I mean I'm just gonna put it in order and so be like Alpha Beta Delta and there's gamma and then theta.   [00:29:07] But yeah so theta is the state where we're aware but we're connected to that subconscious level we're connected to our higher self.   [00:29:15] We can't even get into theta with prayer or feel like if people use mala beads and they're doing their mantras. So that's a great way to also get into theta because you're getting into something bigger than you you're.   [00:29:29] That's what I tell people too. I tell people you know the first place that I ever really felt this was at church and I was praying at church when I was younger.   [00:29:38] I think I was getting into theta state.   [00:29:42] Thank you. Yeah. Yeah some people too I want to ask you about this. Some people say that when you're in state a state they describe it as you feel like you're living in a different dimension.   [00:29:54] Sure. I mean we can all have different responses feelings thoughts sensations emotions that come up when we're in a state that shuts off our external senses. So if somebody is like oh I feel like I'm somewhere else. Well that's definitely what you're experiencing. Some people in meditation they're like I saw colors. What does that mean I'm like It doesn't mean anything. You just you saw go like but you're accessing something bigger than you because you're turning off the external senses. Like I said so it feels different. It's not ignore where we're really connecting to in our inner self. And however that is displayed. We're like oh wow that's new because it's so foreign.   [00:30:39] Yeah yeah that's awesome. So let's talk about this so we have the ego like mind. Thirty thousand rapid fire thoughts a day. Not really even focusing on one thing and we we live from that ego we're really tending to live from the past or the anxiety of the future. So how do you teach people how to remove that. How to really tap into their essence their intuition more and turn down the volume on those thirty thousand rapid fire thoughts today.   [00:31:13] Good question. So ego gets a really bad rap.   [00:31:18] I thought we should tell him first tell him first. Oh my gosh. It's 11:00 11:00 a.m. right now.   [00:31:23] I don't know if you see that ego.   [00:31:26] What is that thing that you have that saying about ego isn't like the 13 year I know it is that 13 year old at the party.   [00:31:33] Yeah. So it goes like your 13 year olds like a 13 year old at the party but you don't want to leave them in charge. You know they're functional they have their purpose. They can do some good stuff.   [00:31:44] But you know they might burn the house to help I love that because ever since you told me that I think that is my ego my 13 year old self so true but ego wants to help us survive.   [00:31:56] Like it keeps us at this survival mode but it also is very self serving like what's in it for me and it.   [00:32:05] But they're such good and that like there can be moments if you don't have ego then you're gonna be taken advantage of or that you would put yourself in harmful situations or that you wouldn't really think like well should I do this or not. Like so there's definitely a place for ego however ego should like the body should not be in the driver's seat ego should be a passenger to your mind or your higher self and ego has this great way of helping.   [00:32:41] Like I said to keep us safe and like help us do what's best for us. You just don't want to leave it in charge because then you can become very self-serving like I said and you can also only think about yourself and you don't think about others. So to transform the relationship and you have that good energy exchange with ego. You want to again practice something that gets you out of the beat of brainwave state and put you into alpha where you're more creative in your more present and you can go. This is. This is safe to do and and it will then align with your values. So that ego will keep you safe but you just kind of want to like dial it back and just be like All right. I see what you want me to do here however I need to do this. It's just a very quick internal judgment that we have and we have to do it through practice. Everything's through practice. We don't become good at something immediately because we decide we want to be dialing down.   [00:33:49] Ego is best done. Yeah. When.   [00:33:52] When you have a practice where you get out of yourself when you remove the me me me me me thoughts and you're able to see the bigger picture and how we connect with everything around us then ego kind of takes a back seat.   [00:34:07] It's like OK you're in charge not me. Listen. I like that.   [00:34:13] So in order for us to come into this more in our society we're going to have to start to talk about it more to talk about our intuition and what I find is that we don't openly share with one another even like our close family and friends when we get these strong whispers in our heart when we're hearing our intuition. Why is the intuition tabu. Why don't we talk about it more.   [00:34:41] I believe it's because we're still kind of dealing with the repercussions of when people did talk about these things they were shunned or they were told they were bad you know like the Salem witch trials or how paganism wasn't a part of a religion and like we all had this very fear based idea about people who could explain things that we usually can't.   [00:35:11] However it's really funny and I know you probably get this all the time but if you talk to people one on one typically if they know like you have this gift or that you're able to talk to spirit all of a sudden everyone has their own example of something that's happened to them in their life.   [00:35:33] That is a form of intuition or spirit communication. We all have a sixth sense. We all have intuitive abilities. We just don't practice them or we feel like oh I can't tell people that I have them because people think I'm crazy or bad or charlatan or that it's embarrassing you know depending on your background and the type of community that you grew up in. So we do we really need to change the conversation that we have around it and understand this isn't an 8 thing that all of us possess inside of us every single one of us even animals are so intuitive. And when we come to that realization and have that acceptance and realize it's not bad just lean into it and cultivate whatever and however you receive messages so that it can best serve you in how you live your day to day life. I tell people all the time. Like the difference in how you receive messages. The easiest way to figure it out is yes or no. And so when you ask a question and you can ask spirit or God or you know the universe or all that is whatever you believe in like Is this good for me. And if there's something in your heart or your head where you get a resounding yes. And like everything in your body gets goose bumps and you're so pumped.   [00:36:57] That is your your soul or you're into it intuitions or higher selves. Way of saying this is a good thing to do. This is joyous.   [00:37:07] This is happy when you get those feelings where it feels like the pit of your stomach is dropping and the like you freeze up in like you feel like I can't move or I'm gonna be sick or oh my gosh I need to like hide my head in the sand or run away. That's your intuitions way of saying no don't do this. This is bad. Like stop where you are. Those are intuitive messages. Those are two physiological responses that we can get from our own intuition our own higher self our own soul. And then as you practice and become more familiar with your own abilities you'll realize that you get messages in different ways. So some of us have the gifts like you do where we can talk to angels and spirits and some of us just have knowing and some of us have visions we all have different gifts.   [00:37:56] We actually do. One hundred percent. You know what. Going back to what you said earlier the ladies who you're working with who see the color. I love that gift because I don't have it I can't see color at all. So I always wonder what would that look like. So I have them describe it.   [00:38:17] And yeah I know everybody does definitely have a spiritual gift it just.   [00:38:23] They're also different. Absolutely. And I think that's what really draws us into different types of congregations where we want to find the familiarity and we want to have a sense of community with people who do have similar experiences. That's where those bonds happen of like where that resounding like me too happens and then you have a different emotional response to your life and you have different experiences because you're able to share those commonalities. And I think that's what works so well and very different sectors of like spiritual practice. I think it can be a really great thing to find somebody that helps you cultivate your own spirituality or your own intuition or your own gifts.   [00:39:05] Yeah which is why it's great that there are so many different people out there like us that you can work with locally because it's nice to follow people like on a bigger national level. But it's also nice to have somebody local that you can actually get face to face with and really learn from one on one for sure.   [00:39:26] Absolutely. Some of my best training has come in communities and not necessarily in like a higher education setting. And it's because you're able to express your vulnerability ask questions and really be seen witnessed or heard by people who are not going to judge you and allow it allows for some tremendous spiritual growth when you are one on one and are able to have that bond that relationship that that great energy exchange. Yeah yeah yeah.   [00:39:58] You know I know we talked about this a little bit when we were talking about money but one of the cool things that had come out of our last talk was quantum theory because when we were talking about quantum theory we were talking about the realm of possibility.   [00:40:14] So I wondering if you could explain what quantum theory is to our listeners because I just think it's so fascinating the science behind it and then how it works in a different example other than money.   [00:40:30] Ok. All right. Let me see if I can do this.   [00:40:33] So quantum theory or the realm of possibility is when you have a thought and as soon as you have that thought it is now in the realm of possibility like you pictured it in your mind's eye or you have felt an energetic response to it or an emotional response to it and now it is actually a possibility if you sit down and contemplate on that thought that goal that dream that aspiration that you have created you now have action steps that you can take to attain that goal that dream in that realm of possibility and so that quantum theory uses that idea to help us manifest. So if you anything that you can perceive you can achieve and I think that's what's the really great part of using thought to help us when we cultivate our thoughts and we use it to help us manifest or to bring something into form then that's a really powerful tool. And so to think of something like That's not money that you want to manifest. Using quantum theory or realm of possibility would be so OK I can give a personal example of that. When my husband and I were still living in Hawaii we he knew that he was going to go to school somewhere but we didn't know where and he asked me really generously like if you could choose where we live where would you want to go and I was like Boulder.   [00:42:18] So the odds of us getting to actually move to Boulder rely on the fact of he has to get accepted to this program. He has to pass this program. Then he has to get accepted to the University of Colorado. Then we have to like there was all these big hurdles in the way of actually of us actually getting to Boulder. However what I did it as I was like nope we're moving to Boulder. That's it that we are going to live in Boulder. And I started probably six months before my husband went to this school so I didn't know he got accepted to this school and I'm not UC but like ah see you. But he got accepted into this program where he was going to go somewhere. We still didn't know where but I was like nope I've decided we're going to Boulder. So I started looking at houses in Boulder. I started researching the kind of clothes I would need to wear in Boulder. I started looking at jobs in Boulder. I started looking at office spaces in Boulder. I started thinking about the type of house and the type of neighborhood I wanted to live in in Boulder. My whole perception was already we're moving to Boulder.   [00:43:29] Like there's no other. That's just it. Like I was so adamant so determined so hard core believed it was happening. So my husband the whole time was just like you're putting all your ducks in one basket or whatever that expression as you're putting all your eggs in one basket. You don't know like you need to look at other places. And I was like Hush now. We're moving to Boulder. And so I I was looking on the internet looking at different houses found the house that we live in now. I'm like that's the house I want. And he was like We're not even moving for like six more months. That house will probably not even be available. I'm like No that's our house. And I started looking at it and was like oh this would our couch will go here how I want this kind of couch made a Pinterest board. I made a Pinterest board for this house. I didn't even know we were going to move into. I love it. I was fully believing this isn't this is it. So I think using that realm of possibility that thought I had.   [00:44:34] We're moving here and then living as if it already exists. That's the key to change using quantum theory live as if it already exists. Then that is how I manifested this house. That's how we ended up in Boulder. Like I just. And that's the way quantum theory works is that when you start believing in a new reality that thought that you had that realm of possibility and you live it and believe it to be true your external experiences have no other option than to match that perceived reality. So that's how manifestation works. That is how law of attraction works when you use a thought and you use action steps and start believing it already is real. That is your reality. Everything in your life shifts so that it does become your perceived reality.   [00:45:32] Yeah this came to me in a crazy way. I'm going to tell this story on a different podcast coming up soon but I was on a bus going to go on a business trip.   [00:45:42] I was in the airport I was in this huge cafe area in the airport out at O'Hare and there was no seating anywhere. This guy came and he sat right down and out. Well he asked Can I sit down next to you and I was like yeah you know come on over.   [00:46:01] I started talking to him. He was an inspirational speaker taught me all of this at a really young age.   [00:46:10] Oh cool. I know I know. So we talk a lot about this on the podcast so thank you so much for explaining though the science behind it and actually putting a name on it with quantum theory because I think it just helps to have the background info and oh there's I was going to ask you that ties into this. Oh you know I was gonna tell you.   [00:46:33] It's connecting to energy because I am connecting to people's loved ones and the other side. A lot of times they'll tell me I need the person that you're working with Julie.   [00:46:46] I need them to understand how to connect with me themselves and what they teach me and what they show me to tell you is you have to see them as if they're there right in front of you.   [00:47:00] You have to see what they look like what it would be like to look into their eyes. Give them a hug.   [00:47:06] Touch their hand and as you are connecting with your loved one who is in heaven on the other side through this visualization what you're doing is calling to their energy bringing their energy closer to you.   [00:47:22] And I really believe that because as you were talking to me what I was seeing from them is that it's the exact same thing with quantum theory. It's just with things that we want to manifest in our lives.   [00:47:34] Right. And not only is it that energy exchange then you also have the emotional response. That's why a lot of people say like even though your loved ones are gone they're still around you or you can keep their memory alive whenever we think about our loved ones even if they're not around or not just the loved ones like if you think about a new place that you want to live and a job that you want to have the money that you want to create.   [00:48:00] It's that energy exchange again like you just said. Like if you have a loving kind happy joyous response to it then you're going to get more of that. Like it's no more. It's a higher frequency emotional reality or perception like you will be closer to that loved one who is on the other side when you can picture like a moment that you had together how they looked when you saw them the hugs that they gave you and funny things that they said you're having that emotional response and that's a beautiful energy.   [00:48:37] Same with no money or a job or a place to live or good health you know like when you love your body your body responds so differently. For me I know that like I struggled for a little bit with was like doing that last ten pound weight loss after I had my second kid and I wasn't treating my body very nice like I was you know doing yoga. I was doing the bare minimum. I'll be honest. But when I really started like loving my body eating well you know I completely cut out booze doing yoga every day meditating every day my body responded and said Oh you do love me and that the weight released a lot easier and I had been busting my booty at the gym for a year and I was so mad. I was like Why am I not losing weight. This is ridiculous. I hyperventilated twice today   [00:49:32] Because my body is like but you're not ready to lose it because you're still treating me like crap. And so I just had to really change that relationship that energy exchange I was having with my body to like for it to go OK I'll respond positively now I'll give you the results you want. Also I had to believe that it was going to happen by making these changes. So I feel like we've been talking a lot and it's been awesome about good energy exchange.   [00:49:59] No I love it. You know we talked a lot about a lot of different things today but I think a lot of our listeners are at different points.   [00:50:06] You know some are beginners summer intermediate summer advanced and I'm just wondering you're kind of like I am you've read a lot. You've looked at a lot of different things. People are just getting started in this. Are there some books that you could recommend that they picked up.   [00:50:20] Oh man so many you know I really I do like Esther and Jerry Hicks I feel like that's the really good starter into the woo woo or not necessarily remote but understanding how Spirit works.   [00:50:40] I think Esther has this ability to tap in to connect that communication with Spirit. That was my toe in. And also like the alchemist. Did you ever read that book.   [00:50:55] You know a long time ago. Yeah.   [00:50:59] I think it's a great book that you can either take. It's just a really great explanation of the journey and how things unfold and manifest for higher self when we truly believe and. Yeah. Esther and Jerry Hicks are great.   [00:51:16] It's the toad don't know very much about them I'll have to check them out so they are the ones that did Law of Attraction. They coins the whole law of attraction. The secret. I feel like that's one What the Bleep Do We Know. That's also it's also a documentary and not just a book. But those are good like. Way to dip your toe in.   [00:51:35] Did you see the new documentary. This is the one I love so much right now it's on Netflix it's called Heal.   [00:51:42] No but you're the third person to tell me to watch you.   [00:51:44] Oh get out of here. Yeah it's fantastic. H e l. And if you've got Netflix it's right on there. But it is a great great documentary.   [00:51:55] Oh I'll. I'll definitely check it out. Yeah. There's a lot of different books that people can use to dip their toe in and be like. Does this resonate with me. Yes. Awesome. Take what you need leave the rest.   [00:52:06] Totally. That's awesome. So Nikki you know the other one that you really recommended and I highly recommend him to is Joe dispenser.   [00:52:16] I love Joe. I love him so much. I love his work. He yeah he resonates with me. I think just so much.   [00:52:24] Oh yeah. He's really brilliant. And I really just like his vibe his personality I like how he's scientifically explains the woo. Something that definitely and might obviously resonate with myself where it just makes it more under my little analytical mind. I just really like the way he explains how things work and how we can make that connection. Totally. Yeah. And Dr. John Cabot Zen another great guy. Turn him in. OK. I'll check it out. Yeah. So wherever you go there you are.   [00:52:59] He wrote that book about meditation really great box them as well and for people who want to find you online again where can they go. So Facebook the Graham I know kids are calling these days   [00:53:14] Is all mind body mana and then my web sites Mind Body money.com.   [00:53:18] Oh I see them. Thank you so much. Inherently for being on the show. I just really appreciate your time.   [00:53:25] Thank you so much for inviting me Julie. It's always so fun to talk to you.   [00:53:28] Oh thank you. Have a great day everyone. Friends I almost miss the best part Nicky Hartley meditation guru meditation teacher.   [00:53:40] She did her own meditation for us to try. It's about 40 minutes long so I know it's a little bit longer than we normally do but I'd love for you to sit down and try her meditation. We're going to put it up right here on the podcast. Again it's a completely separate episode so that you don't have to go through and tinker around and try and find the exact time to do the meditation. It is strictly the meditation and yet I'm so excited about it. Try meditation out. Tell us how you like it. 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Bonnie Scilingo shares the story of her husbands passing, and how he used Angel Numbers to communicate to her that he was okay on the Other Side. After Bonnie and I finished recording the episode we chatted more, and thankfully I left the tape running! And I'm glad I did because we got into a great, deep discussion. So stay on (after you think the episode has ended) to hear Bonnie and my post-podcast discussion. Note: Angel numbers are used in a variety of ways, this is just one. I'll put together an entire episode soon on all the different ways we see Angel numbers, and all of the different meanings behind them!   Book an Angel Message Reading or Life Coaching! Website:  www.jancius.com   Continue the Conversation! Ask a question on social media and Julie may answer it on the podcast! 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For details on all of this visit www.jancius.com.   [00:00:52] You're listening to angels and awakening where we believe daily life can be lived from a constant state of love, joy, peace, bliss, Ease, and grace Why are people always searching for a better way to live because there is one life doesn't have to be stress filled and anxiety ridden you can make lasting changes that lead to a life you love. My name's Julie Jancius I have the gift of connecting with angels and bringing through their healing positive messages to my clients every day. Join us on the angels and awakening podcast each week, As we explore our big spiritual questions. Interview experts and bring through Angel messages. I am so excited you're here   [00:01:38] How. Beautiful Souls. Welcome to our Friday podcast. We are here with a Bonnie Scilingo. She is a family friend that I have known all my life and she has this beautiful beautiful story about her loved ones coming through to her from the other side.   [00:01:57] And I just had to have her on today to tell you about her story because you're just gonna have goose bumps. That's all I can say. You are gonna have goose bumps hearing about how her team her spirits have come through to her. So Bonnie thank you so much for being on the podcast. I'd love for you to tell us a little bit about your loved ones, and I know the numbers tie into to all of this so you had to tell us about the numbers.   [00:02:27] Thank you so much Julie for having me on. I'm really excited about this because I've told this story to many people and it does he gives goose bumps to me every time I retell it. So my husband passed away on January, 4th 2010 and he loved baseball. It was his biggest passion and his number of his jersey was number 32. So he spent most of his free time playing baseball when he wasn't home or working. But I can remember it was his birthday I think of 2012 and my daughter and I decided we were going to go out to his favorite sushi restaurant and have sushi in honor of Tony's birthday. And as we were eating the sushi I said to my daughter Jamie, do you think Dad is here? And she said I don't know Mom I think he might be. I said I think you might be too I think he follows us a lot. So we had just finished eating our sushi and the bill came. I looked at the bill and I'm ready to sign after their credit card. And I looked down and it's the amount is thirty two dollars and thirty two cents. Remember, his favorite number is 32. So she and I looked at each other and like wow he really is here so we were so excited because once you connect with your loved one when they pass there's so many times that you can see these little things that happen especially when you kind of you kind of understand OK.   [00:04:10] When I see number 32, I know it is Tony. I also see that with his birthday which is May 13th and I see that also with my birthday which is August 21st. But 32 seems to be the one that I hear from him most.   [00:04:29] So a jump to another thirty two story if you'd like to know. And that is actually just happened. Well let me back up. I decided after Tony passed a couple of years went by that I was going to start dating. So I dated this guy that turned out to be not telling me the truth about his current situation. And we had just left the restaurant and I found out that the man was not single. So we're in the car and I'm going to I wish I had known this before I went to dinner with you and on the sudden a car taps a source right in front of us and I look at the license plate and the license plate says pitcher 32. My husband was a baseball pitcher and it his number, Thirty two.   [00:05:23] I scream, "Oh my gosh".   [00:05:26] Can you believe it?   [00:05:28] I can't believe it at all.   [00:05:30] OK. Keep going.   [00:05:32] So I turn to the date and I looked at him and I kind of scream and he goes, What's the matter, I go into my husband in front of us telling me that I shouldn't be on this date with you   [00:05:50] But you know to see see number three two is one thing, but to see the name -- the word pitcher in front of it, I knew that this isn't coincidental. That was definitely a sign of Tony. And so that's another 32 sighting with my husband, and I'll give you another one.   [00:06:07] This happened this year this past year my son Tony graduated with a advanced degree from DePaul University in Chicago and knew we were going to his commencement for it. And I'm walking through to get my ticket for my seat and I'm with my sister and my daughter. My son is already he's up with the graduates and I look at them I said give me Tony's at this graduation. And of course they said I'll probably probably. So I get to get my tickets. They give me the ticket to where I'm sit. I'm going to see they give me the ticket. It's number 32. So I'm also sitting in number a number 32 was my seat. Again not another coincidence that happened in May of this past year of 2018. August of 2009 18. My sister and I go to a Cubs game. Now you have to know something about my husband the baseball player.   [00:07:09] He was not a Cubs fan. He was a white sox fan. So playing the Cubs was who he was and he was OK with them but his love was white sox of both the White Sox and the Cubs clean each other. It's definitely the White Sox he's rooting for. Well this day it's the Cubs playing the Cincinnati Reds. My sister and I get our seats. And again I say to our so do you think Tony is at this game. She said Well by the way that he shows himself to you I'm sure he's at this game. So they are announcing the pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds and these folks his name number 32. So my husband was on the mound pitching against the Cubs which I'm sure he loved. I'm sure he loved. So those are those are the 30 twos that I can remember. Truly I think there's a few more but these are the ones that really stick out my mind. So he shows himself to me all the time with his his baseball no body that is absolutely incredible.   [00:08:16] I mean not just to have this happen once or twice but over and over and over again. I just can't believe it. How do you. Because I think there are people out there who say well I don't see signs. I don't see signs from my loved ones. But I got to tell you in all of my sessions spirit comes through and they're always saying I am showing them signs. They're just not seeing it. They're just not hearing it. They're just not looking.   [00:08:45] And I just want to know from you Bonnie how did you see it.   [00:08:50] How did you hear it. How are you able to connect like that.   [00:08:54] Well Julie when Tony died the loss was so great and you really I really quickly wanted to establish some way of communicating with him. So I used his jersey number and I actually talked to him and I said Tom when I see number 32 I know what's going on I know you're around. I know that's way of you telling me that you're here with me your angels are here you are here your spirit is here I established number 30 to kind of quickly cause when he passed I never stopped talking to him. I talked to him to this day I talked to him. I kept him all the time. So I think what people need to do is talk to their loved one and try to communicate a way that they will know when that person on the other side wants to communicate with them.   [00:09:47] That's awesome. Bonnie you are somebody that I know so well in my life and I don't know if I would feel comfortable asking everybody else this question but I think that you would understand the importance of getting this information to other people who are listening.   [00:10:04] So I'm just wondering I mean you lost somebody so young who was so close to you and I know that it was just absolutely devastating and every single level. But you found peace in your heart and you found the ability to go on which not everybody is able to do. I have a lot of clients who I mean it just it makes me want to cry and it just breaks my heart. They they lose somebody and then it's almost as if life stops and they're really not able to continue and this isn't just for one year or two years this is for a very long time. So I'm just wondering if you would be able to share with our listeners just how you were able to find some bit of peace in your life after his passing.   [00:10:57] Yes truly I'd be happy to answer that question. I've always had a very strong faith in God and my. Love of God and knowing that God loves me and I've always had a very deep spiritual connection to knowing that the afterlife is if I'd like you to explain it. I think it's just a membrane away. So I think that they're so close to us that when someone dies the grief can be enormous and I had so much grief. Julie It was a sudden death. There was no preparation for it. One day he was here. One day he was gone. So what I decided to do because boy you do feel like you want to stop living. What I decided to do is to really emerge myself and dive in to support groups. And I did one through my local hospital which has a it's a Christian based hospital and they had a grief group for people whose spouses have died specifically for the death of a spouse and I decided that I was going to go into this. I was going to go every time that they met which was every Monday night and I was going to go and nothing was going to stop me because my grief was overwhelming and I really didn't feel like going on. So I went to this grief group. I ended up staying there for a year and a half. Took me a year and a half before I could as I put it graduate. And can I tell you this was so helpful to me because what it did it put me in there was sometimes to were twenty five people there sometimes there were 50 people there and we'd sit in a group and we'd we'd be in a big circle and I would hear and we would share stories about our grief and then we would pray and then we would have to decide afterwards as a group to go out for coffee.   [00:13:09] So I had this new group of support people that were all brand new. I didn't know any of these people before this happened and it was getting into this group scene that other people are also going through the same thing I'm going through and here I'm going thinking nobody's going to have a worse story than me. No one no one. My story is going to be the top. Oh boy. My story was not a. There were people that had experienced greater depths of a spouse than that I thought mine was. So it took me 18 months and it was the best thing to do. And I would tell your listeners that if they're not in a support group and they're not in a grief group I would certainly look into one and they're all over and find one. The one I had was from actually Hinsdale hospital where I live and they can direct you to that if that would be some place that I would really suggest you would want to start.   [00:14:09] Bonnie thank you so so much for taking the time to be on the show today and for all of your beautiful stories and for your supportive messages to our listeners. I just can't tell you how much I appreciate your time and coming on today.   [00:14:27] Oh thank you Julie I really enjoyed it. Thank you so much.   [00:14:32] Of course of course. Well thank you everybody for listening today. I hope you have a beautiful and blessed blessed weekend. If you have any questions please email me if you have any stories about angels about loved ones and how they have come into your life shown their presence in your life really helped you in your life. I would love to hear those stories. I'm sure our listeners would love to hear those stories and we would just love to feature them on here so if you're willing to come on the show or have me read your story on the show please get a hold of me. My Web site is w w w dot chance s dot com that spelled J A N C I U S dot com or you can just email me at Julie chances at gmail dot com. Thank you everybody. Have a great blast weekend and look out for all of those blessings that spirit is bringing into your life right now.   [00:15:33] Ok. Bonnie are you there. I am Julie. Yes. Oh my gosh I'm fine.   [00:15:40] I've got something to send you.   [00:15:42] I have a photo that was taken of a very store and the first year anniversary of Tony's stuff.   [00:15:49] I don't know if I told you this truce of meetings. OK. So I went on a boat. I'm a boat on a boat and I'm in Hawaii out of the ocean. And first of all the captain of the boat as you. Aaron get out on the boat. His name was Tony. So that's the fellow. He's the captain of this boat. He takes us way out to where I'm going to throw Tony's party Tony's ashes over and as I'm throwing the ashes over in this particular spot. One of my friends that was with me on this trip took a camera shot. He developed it and he brought it to me goes bad. You won't believe what this what you're going to see. Julie there is an angel in this picture just hovering hovering over where I threw his ashes. I have to send you this photo Oh it.   [00:16:47] Yes you will.   [00:16:48] Do you want to see that on the podcast. I just. I should I should agent. Can I show it. I need it. Yeah. OK.   [00:16:58] Yes. I'm going to. I'm going to send it to your email. Yeah man. Yeah. So it's your email. And it's in Hawaii and it's in the middle of the ocean and it is definitely an angel in the air.   [00:17:14] You will see the now. Wow. Oh my gosh I'm dying to see this picture. You have to send it to me that's it.   [00:17:21] And then. And so this of course we did notice until after we got home and this was developed because this was taken with a very high end camera. So it wasn't an iPhone camera which are good today. But in 2011 this was a high end camera that he had brought. So if it's very accurate you can see an angel but as I said I'm getting off the ship.   [00:17:44] My phone rings and it's a tale of radio. They're calling me because I had been in constant contact with them that year and they wanted to pray for me on the anniversary of his death.   [00:17:56] So I said OK. So they prayed with me on the anniversary of the death. And when I thanked them I go thank you so much. And I said What was your name again. Because my name is Tony.   [00:18:07] Oh yeah.   [00:18:10] Gosh I feel that so much in my heart.   [00:18:14] Yeah. Oh yeah. If you don't if you don't believe in spirits and you don't believe in the afterlife and it's a good place you have to listen to my story because oh it is.   [00:18:27] I mean he is he is around us all the time.   [00:18:30] Yeah. Oh for sure.   [00:18:33] Especially on big dates and big bases around especially on big data.   [00:18:36] That's amazing. That's amazing.   [00:18:38] You know how guys should I say here to tell you oh I just picked up Billy Graham's book all about a one angel.   [00:18:46] Yes handed. Oh yes I have that book. Yeah.   [00:18:49] Oh my gosh. Wonderful book. Well what I was fascinated about I read Billy Graham when you talk about Christian.   [00:18:56] He's kind of like the king of all Christians right. Yeah he does.   [00:19:00] He's the icon. Totally totally.   [00:19:03] You know help me cause some Christians can go about they're not sure about the angel part.   [00:19:08] Yeah. Oh yeah. I have to leave Wayne Barrett said this is the book you need. They kept saying cause I kept seeing it pop up on Amazon I'm like What is this. And it's an old book. I mean it was published in 1995. So I'm reading this book right now.   [00:19:23] And when Billy Graham talks about angels he's not just talking about Angel angels with wings and halos he is talking about loved ones coming through yes.   [00:19:39] Yes yes yes yes.   [00:19:43] Which is so fascinating to me because the biggest thing that I run it up into is I mean you know how how religious my upbringing was and how much my faith has always been there. But the biggest thing that I run up against is people saying oh well the Bible says that that would never happen again. You know like that was just in the old times. That's not here today. That doesn't happen anymore. And the Bible says that.   [00:20:07] But Billy Graham of all people goes into. Yes it does it have yes. All right.   [00:20:15] That's what that's what's so wonderful about Billy Graham is that people think that he was so biblical to where he. You wouldn't have thought that the loved one would come back as an angel you know and when you read this old book on this quote from the 70s on his Angels it's like wow this guy had it. He was such a faithful man. Oh my God he was so so faithful one hundred percent.   [00:20:44] I know it's an honor.   [00:20:47] It was. He was amazing and lived a long life because I think he had so much to do. God. God said we're keeping you for a long time.   [00:20:57] You have a lot. You have a lot of work to do because he was actually doing good.   [00:21:01] I mean so many people they they hear the calling they hear the desires in their heart but then they just don't take the steps.   [00:21:09] And it is the people who are here are following the steps who are following the breadcrumbs that God gives them because God doesn't give you more unless you start with the first piece that he gives you. Right. So yes if you don't follow it you're not going to get more right.   [00:21:29] You're right. Right. Right. But Billy Graham was the one who who followed and his family was.   [00:21:37] They weren't all perfect. His kids got in trouble. I believe somebody got in big trouble. I can't remember. I know his daughter has written a book but somebody was or had broken away. And you know how they handled it.   [00:21:52] They just gave the kid more love. Yeah. They gave him more love. Yeah. They just they gave him more love and he eventually came around. It is his whole thing was love. This whole thing was love. Yeah. And you know her God loves us so much.   [00:22:12] Well that's it. That's all that there really is. It is it's all love.   [00:22:17] It is all love because you know because you know what it feels like when you don't have love and people always think that the opposite of love is hate with the opposite of love is severe. Yeah. You don't have love. You're so fearful you're so afraid and there's a vibration to that.   [00:22:33] We all know the vibration of fear and how it will linger with us if we don't concentrate on the love because it's really only by staying in the light. Staying in the love that you get more of that you can't dabble with the fear stuff.   [00:22:49] You just gotta stay in the light in the love yes light and the love that that's what I always tell everybody I said you know some people that say oh I can't I can't live the spiritual Christian life. I can't do it I can't. It's too hard I'm gone. It's really not that hard. There's really only two things that God asks us to do and that's. Well three things really. There's love him number one love everyone else. Number two just like you love God and number three which I think is the hardest is forgiveness. Forgiveness is probably the hardest but the other two to love. And once you know how long how easy it is when you love you you love more because it's really when you forgive you love. You know there's a lot of things that you can be angry with. I could be angry with Tony. Once I forgave him and it took a while once I really forgave him I was able to really love a lot more.   [00:23:53] Yeah yeah. You know forgiving is the tough part.   [00:23:58] Once you forgive somebody you know like you get in an argument once you forgive somebody for arguing oh gosh it feel so good.   [00:24:05] It does. And I believe in forgiveness.   [00:24:08] I feel like forgiveness is such an easy thing to say. Yeah I would forgive you I forgive but we all haven't been tested in the same way with it. And I just hope that you know we're all gonna have to come up against that some way in our lives and I think that you're just such an amazing role model because of the way that you were able to just handle everything in your life with just such grace and yeah just Grace.   [00:24:40] Well thanks Jules. It's been it's been there's been a lot of tough days.   [00:24:46] Yeah a lot of tough days but I'm still here am.   [00:24:52] And you know days there are good days as bad days but you know I know that I know that my angels are around me all the time. I meant to tell you this. I don't know if you know anything with the numbers but I. When Tony died the first four months every single day morning I would wake up at four forty four for forty four. Kept looking at this number. Oh my goodness it's forty four wives. Why am I waking up at 44 or why can't I go to sleep until I look at the clock it's 444. I looked at this number and according to the spirits this number is you're on the right path and the angels are now directing you your angels are all around you with number 444.   [00:25:38] That's how I know it.   [00:25:41] So the angel numbers are something that I really started to see after my dad passed away and I saw it the entire next year.   [00:25:49] And I've continued seeing it since I saw 44 but it started with eleven eleven. Oh yeah a twilight. Yeah yeah. It means awakening. And that was what was happening.   [00:26:02] Yes I seen eleven two I saw love and after I saw Levin's a lot when I started dating I would see Levins all the time. Eleven Eleven one one eleven eleven eleven. Oh what a sort of life. Yeah. But I don't do it anymore so I decided I'm not looking for anybody jewels if somebody wants to find me. They know what I mean. It'll come to me. I'm not looking anymore. I have too many other things I need to do. Yeah in my life. And if if God wants me to have a man in my life he'll send them to me.   [00:26:38] Yeah. Look at it.   [00:26:40] I think well I've got another woman coming on the show. March 19th and her name's Kay AK and she's just this phenomenal author who wrote this book called Divorce the love story. And we talk a lot in it not about divorce so much but about marriage in general and relationships and partnerships and just how much the institution is going to change because it's structurally it hasn't always allowed us to use our voice.   [00:27:13] And so there's a lot happening right now with relationships I would say energetically.   [00:27:20] Oh I agree with you with a lot happening to relationships and the relationships of people that I know there for some reason I don't know if it's the times but I I feel a lot of people are just not happy.   [00:27:37] Yeah in their relationships even though they think they're happy not happy. And I don't know if it's if it's you know this climate of the social world we live in.   [00:27:53] This is what I've gotten into a spirit and just working with so many different people. Is that what's happening right now is that the institution of marriage is at the beginning of a major shift and it's not about being against marriage. It's not about there not being any marriage in the future. It's about setting up the institution so that you're able to get out of it. If there is a natural arc to the relationship because right now you can't you can't just get out. I mean we're so tied financially together.   [00:28:29] If you can't work it out is it. If they stay in because it's made it worse if they tried to get out. Yeah or they yen in and they they're just not happy the way it is but they don't know how to fix it or they don't know why it's going bad.   [00:28:46] Well And I guess probably a lot of the people that you're talking to our women and a lot of the women that I'm talking to are coming into this to where the second really half to this is opening up our throat chakra because so much of this is us not using our voice on an individual level pretty much our entire life. I mean you know we were shushed as little girls we were told you know what we should do as adults. So we went in that direction and there really wasn't a lot of freedom within ourselves to use our voice to use our opinions to go in the direction that we wanted to. Yeah. So are you.   [00:29:26] Yeah that's a great point. You're right about that. Yeah. Women have a much bigger voice but they're never had a voice. You're right.   [00:29:32] Yeah. And. And so what's happening on the individual level is we have to do the work and put in the work of finding our voice finding out what our feelings and our needs are going more deeply and then acting on it and building the life that we want to have. And part of that's really scary.   [00:29:53] Oh yeah. Oh yeah very scary. Yeah.   [00:29:56] Even towards assert yourself in situations that you you thought you maybe should never assert yourself at. But now you're going to assert yourself and you don't know what the outcome is gonna be.   [00:30:09] Yeah yeah totally agreed. Yeah. Bobby I love you so much.   [00:30:17] I love you too Jules.   [00:30:20] We'll keep in touch and if you know anybody else who's got good angel stories I am still looking for more to have on here.   [00:30:33] Oh thank you so much. OK.   Well thank you again for being on I love you and am well enjoyed talking to him. OK. OK. 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Hear a taped Angel Message Reading, where Julie gives one listener messages from their Angels and loved ones on the Other Side. Julie also talks about animals, specifically our sweet beloved pets. Julie discusses how animals raise the vibration of not only us, but our homes. She'll also show you where she sees your pets on the Other Side. Do they really cross a rainbow bridge? Are they in Heaven? Julie says the answer to that is yes, but it doesn’t look like what most people think it does — it’s even more beautiful and she'll explain that. Then, wrap up the episode with a soothing meditation that will help you have an excellent start to your week! Links mentioned in the podcast are below:   Book an Angel Message Reading or Life Coaching! Website:  www.jancius.com   Continue the Conversation! Ask a question on social media and Julie may answer it on the podcast! Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   Be on The Show Want to record a session for the podcast or tell a story about your loved ones / Angels coming through from the Other Side? Email me at juliejancius@gmail.com   Meet Julie in Person! Blonde Boutique in Glen Ellyn April 11, 2019 from 6 - 10 pm Julie will be giving mini-Angel Message Readings that night! Blonde Boutique Website Blonde Boutique Instagram   Prayer Jar Add your name (or the name of a family member/friend) to Julie's prayer jar, and she will pray for you/them every morning. All you have to do is subscribe on Julie's Website:  www.jancius.com   Show Notes *Show notes recorded by Sonix.AI.  [00:00:00] Hello Beautiful Souls! Welcome back to the Angels and Awakening podcast. Today I'm sharing the first angel message reading that I ever recorded for this podcast. And after that we're going to talk about our pets are sweet beloved animals. And I'll share with you how our animals raised the vibration of not only us but our homes as well. We'll talk about where our pets go. On the other side do they cross the rainbow bridge. Are our animals really in heaven. The answer to that is yes. But it doesn't look like what most people think it does. It's even more beautiful. And I'll explain that in this episode.   [00:00:43] Also if you're in Chicago land and want to come out and meet me mark your calendar for April 11th. I'll be at the Blonde Boutique in Glen Ellyn that night giving mini Angel readings. If you've never been to the Blonde Boutique in Glen Ellyn you have to check it out. They have the best clothes and jewelry. They're also a great store to go to if you're looking for any gift ideas. You can check them out at www.shopblondeboutique.com where you can also shop online.   [00:01:21] You're listening to angels and awakening where we believe daily life can be lived from a constant state of love joy peace bliss ease and grace.   [00:01:32] Why are people always searching for a better way to live. Because there is one life doesn't have to be stress filled and anxiety ridden. You can make lasting changes that lead to a life you love. My name's Julie Jancius. I have the gift of connecting with angels and bringing through their healing. Positive messages to my clients every day. Join us on the Angels and Awakening podcast each week as we explore our big spiritual questions. Interview experts and bring through Angel messages. I am so excited you're here   [00:02:09] Friends. We have an incredible episode today and I'm so excited to share that with you. But first I have to tell you how much you, yes you, listening right now how much you mean to me. The podcast has only been up for about a month now and you've all been writing and telling me how you're sharing the podcast with your friends and family and I want you to know, that I know, the success of this podcast is one hundred percent you. You listening, you sharing your ideas with me, you spreading the word to people who you're closest to so thank you. I want you to know that I value you as a partner and I really do think of you as part of my team. I just want to thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for going above and beyond for me. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. Thank you so much to everyone who's left a positive review as well. If you didn't see it on Instagram the winner of this month's drawing was Ashley Lite. Ashley won a free 30 minute Angel message reading because she wrote a positive review on iTunes. Remember every time you post a positive review on iTunes and email me a screenshot or a copy of the positive review you posted and I'll put your name into a drawing to win a free Angel message session with me.   [00:03:36] If you don't have an iPhone you can still be entered into the drawing. If you post a glowing positive review on Facebook or on my business page on Google again that would be my business Facebook page or on Google when you look up my business name Chicago energy healing. And if you post that positive review I will still enter your name in to a drawing to win that free Angel message session. Just don't forget to email me a copy so that I can add your name into the jar and you know what. Every month I'm going to pick a new winner and I'm going to keep your name in the jar until you win. So there's many opportunities and thank you so so much for everything that you're doing to support the podcast. I really from the from the bottom of my heart I really can't even tell you how much I appreciate it.   [00:04:31] OK. Without further ado here it is the angel message session I recorded the one you're going to hear today was the very first one that I recorded in this session you'll hear me talking about praying before the session.   [00:04:44] That's something that I actually do every day. I pray for the clients who are coming in for a session that day I pray for God to allow the person coming in to hear the messages that they need most from the people they need to hear most from. I also ask God to ensure that every client who comes to see me gets the maximum benefit possible from that session and when I pray for each individual client in the morning what I do is I take notes on who's on your spiritual team and what your angels have to say and they'll just start showing me what needs to be talked about in the session and where the person needs healing energy the most. OK so I don't want to give anything else away by talking about the session so I'll just jump right into it. And then after the sessions over stay on because you'll hear me chat more with you. We're going to discuss a couple parts about the session but even more than that we're going to talk about animals your pets how they help us in this lifetime and in heaven. OK so here it is my first recorded mini session with a woman named Elle.   [00:06:16] So l today when I was really praying on your energy there were a lot of different things that came up but I want to touch base first with the people that were coming through and the messages that they were bringing.   [00:06:29] There was a younger female more of a grandmother energy also came through my my dog passed away recently too was my everything and then I'm also really close to my boy love who passed away. I talked to her a lot.   [00:06:51] To the that's that motherly grandmotherly energy that was coming through and the young female. It doesn't really matter the dog's age.   [00:07:00] It's more the energy of the spirit because she did come through almost with this daughterly energy and was she sick because she shows me her energy fading towards the end?   [00:07:13] Yeah.   [00:07:14] So this is something that you helped nurse her through a bit.   [00:07:17] Yeah yeah.   [00:07:18] She wants to thank you for all of the love that you gave her. She shows me does she have a really fun collar?   [00:07:27] Yeah, I have a friendship color so me and her both wear the same one. It's like very vibrant.   [00:07:37] Was it pink?   [00:07:37] Yeah. Yes. Yeah.   [00:07:42] So she and you have this and you still wear this in memory of her is that right. Yeah. I'll send you a copy of this paper where I wrote everything down. But she had me right recent passing, was sick but she shows me from her passing she's tying it to this sadness in your heart chakra and when I got to the heart chakra I wrote deep down you have a knowingness of why but she said You're resisting it not letting go not moving on.   [00:08:12] She had me right stuck, needs to move on, she just shows me she was your daughter, she was your baby and that she needs you her mom to be happy again she needs you to not have so much of this hurt.   [00:08:30] She helped me through a lot of transitions in my life and I feel stuck in that I have to start from scratch with everything again and I don't know how to do that without her so I do feel very stuck.   [00:08:51] Yeah yeah yeah. The entire back page of what she had me write down. They had me write new pass Great inspiration full of excitement create something amazing They had me go through your energy relating to your mind and they showed me that you're working through really this confusion within this situation, that's on the other side of the paper, let me see what they said about that confusion: you're typically really intuitive but you're completely confused perplex about this, and it and it does connect with that heart ache. they showed me that this new path is you turning a negative into a positive, and they're really working with you to help you succeed but a lot of that is about getting over this blockage that you have and really believing in yourself yeah.   [00:09:46] So I struggled with drug addiction and I thought the biggest thing and I've also struggled with an eating disorder and so I feel like I get in the way of myself a lot and I just experience a good amount of negativity but I also I've always said that I feel like it's meant so that I can help others like I feel like I'm. That's been my purpose. That's my purpose on this planet. But it is like fighting the self-confidence and like finding like believing in myself a lot of things that I'm scared to do I feel like to get to that point. And when it comes to my intuition I would consider myself very intuitive. And ever since Lola's passed it's been harder for me to go to those places like it's harder for me to meditate. There's like resistance for sure.   [00:10:36] Yeah. So exactly what she had said about in your heart chakra this knowingness of why but resisting it not letting go not moving on.   [00:10:48] You do have very deep purpose here and there really actually excited for you for all that's to come.   [00:10:55] So there's some big there's this big energy of shifting to this entirely new chapter.   [00:11:02] I moved to Virginia from California a month and a half ago.   [00:11:07] Oh OK. And what is this new work that you're doing out in Virginia.   [00:11:12] I work in a health food store with a bunch of really sick people that I I just believe a lot of the things I feel like it's the place here where like my spirit aligns the most. And it makes me happy.   [00:11:25] Yeah it's awesome.   [00:11:27] The other thing that really came through is work on yourself and just really loving yourself more. They showed me that you have this a deal of how things should be but that you feel like you don't measure up and they really need you to release that because on the other side our souls were not better than one another. We're all pieces of the same hole. The metaphor that Spirit gives me for   [00:11:59] Our relationship to God and how we're made in the image and likeness of God universe is that think of all the water here on Earth. All of the oceans the lakes the rivers and imagine all of that water together. That is the metaphor that they give us for the universe. Now take all of that water and split it apart into individual droplets all of it is just individual droplets. Those droplets would go on for infinity. Right. And each one of those droplets is a soul. It's part it's us as a collective.   [00:12:38] All of our souls together and creates this energy this force universe God Source on the other side.   [00:12:45] I hope that helps you a little bit because what they want for you is to release this a deal that you're less than that you're not good enough that that you're not meeting the ideal within your own mind of how you should be.   [00:13:00] How things should be. Because really if you allow them to they will hold you through it. And I know that that's hard because you haven't felt it as much but what they're showing me is if you just release this fear and really this fear of just messing it up they will be able to hold you so much more. Does that make sense.   [00:13:24] Yeah absolutely.   [00:13:26] Because they also had me right. Slow down.   [00:13:29] Tap into your self healing forgiveness remove energy so she can move forward so that as you've moved into a new state a new place a new job.   [00:13:43] Have you really taken time to stop and think about what you want what you want things to look like moving forward.   [00:13:53] That's the thing it's like I don't know what I want. That's the problem I like. I know I want to help others. I know I want to take all of this and do something with it. You know where I can incorporate all of this stuff but Joy I don't know where I want to lay I'd like set up really or how well God even looks like. Yeah yeah.   [00:14:21] So there's two ways that you could go at this.   [00:14:24] You have this knowledge of addiction but you also have more of this passion just for health and wellness and what they're showing me is you going into something more of the addiction route you're kind of fearful of always being in that energy versus going into something more health related that doesn't have that addiction piece to it. More like massage therapy psychotherapy different types of wellness therapies that you could get certified in and really use to help others without having the terms of addiction and the therapy of addiction constantly surrounding you.   [00:15:13] Yeah. You nailed it. You know so get well with L has been my dream I guess. And it's more of like life coach you like wellness. I'm really interested in all of like chakras in meditation and more like eastern philosophy and I want to get my yoga certification and I'm into like astrology and all of these things where I wish I could like call all of this knowledge which I'm still learning a lot about. But I'm like I want to get good oh so that I can pull all of this knowledge and use it to help people you know. But it's scary to put myself out there on that level. Yeah.   [00:15:58] So. So I really want to break this down a little bit more because what they're showing me is that's where the confusion part is coming into you know astrology and these different things. They're so different Reiki versus astrology. And there are some similar threads but really what they're showing me is that you have to do your research you have to actively search out guidance from different experts.   [00:16:21] So call up different people who have that career who are in that career locally by you see if you could take them out for coffee or tea and talk to them about what their career is like and really maybe even take a year to figure out OK you know it's not astrology it's Reiki or it's not Reiki it's astrology or whatever it might be. I want you to first make a list of all the different career options that are out there life coaching everything and then go through and research each one of them. So maybe make a list of your top 10 and go through and research each one of them. Call up people talk to people really do your homework there and then narrow it down to the top three to five and then narrow it down to the top three the top two then the top one and it might even be where you know I I do angel readings but I do have my Reiki master teacher certification I also have my geos master teacher which she says is just another form of energy healing. So it might end up being two different ones that you end up getting into but at least you vender narrowed it down to some specifics right.   [00:17:41] So that's really where they're showing me that that confusion peace comes in that we talked about earlier that they had me write down. They need you to break through that confusion but they keep repeating how excited they are they're saying that you're really going to create something amazing you're really going to turn those negatives into positives through your work and it's definitely in this realm of healing because Archangel Rafael is helping you through this. He also had me write he's given you another female angel who's a healer to help you with your career.   [00:18:19] So that's on the front page it says Archangel Rafael arrow to a female angel arrow to your career were you really good at training her with tricks as well.   [00:18:32] Oh yeah. I trained her I to agree age. Actually I a lot of suit when she was like eleven.   [00:18:41] Well but she was really well just so well-behaved like she was still love you know.   [00:18:50] Yeah.   [00:18:52] You know we have our animals with us on the other side in the realm that I call home base and that's where she is waiting for you in this place called home base on the other side.   [00:19:07] Everybody has a house over there. Everybody's family lives on the same street. From our sole family and your grandmother shows me her with your dog right now taking care of her and and that she's safe and sound over there. Well I'm so thankful that you decided to come on this show today and you're your team your spiritual team on the other side did a phenomenal job of bringing their messages and they were pretty spot on about what you're going through and they're just so excited for you about everything to come they're going to continue working with you to make sure that you're on the right path. You know they're always working with you 24/7 so you don't have to fear that they're not gonna be around they're always there.   [00:19:56] This is incredible.   [00:19:59] Thank you so so so much. I tell you how much this means to me so thank you.   [00:20:05] Oh good. Thank you so much. Al I really appreciate your time today.   [00:20:10] Thank you so much. It was wonderful. Thank you OK.   [00:20:15] Julie I'm back to chat with you some more. I hope you enjoyed listening to this mini session for the remainder of the podcast. We're going to talk about animals our pets. But first I want to let you know one part of this session that you just listened to was edited out in order to really respect the privacy of our guest. Also I want you to know that when struggles with addiction come up in a session I always refer the person to work with an addiction specialist a professional an addiction continuously because I am not trained in this area. Spirit says that while we do have a team on the other side we also need a team of people here on earth to help us. And it's really our responsibility we have to take on the ownership of building up this team for ourselves. Now I am always happy to be a part of your team here. But if there's something that you need to see a professional for I'm always going to refer you to that professional to ask you to include them as part of your team here on Earth as well. OK. Now let's talk about this episode animals specifically pets are always coming through in my sessions.   [00:21:29] Sometimes it's our pets that we actually need to connect with most in a reading. So they do they come through with love and messages for you. Sometimes their pets even come through as our children because our bond with them was that deep during our time here together. So I got to talk to Theresa Caputo about this back in the fall and I don't want to give you the wrong impression. I don't know her at all. I only got to talk with her for about five minutes backstage after one of her shows. But during that time she told me a story about how one time she was on stage in front of thousands of people. She was reading a woman and she said Your daughter's coming through. And the woman looked at her she said completely frustrated and confused. And the woman kept telling her I don't have a daughter but I don't have a daughter. And Theresa said all I can tell you is what Spirit is showing me. And they're showing me the soul of a daughter on the other side. And she says you have her bracelet. And Theresa said the look on the woman's face when she said that was just pure shock. She goes. Oh   [00:22:41] I do. But it's not my daughter. It's my dog.   [00:22:45] She just passed away.   [00:22:47] That was the same thing that happened to me in my reading with al the energy of the soul who wanted to come through. She came through more as a daughter than anything else. And that's because in this life here she truly did hold the energy of a daughter for Al. Does that make sense. She was really like a daughter to her here.   [00:23:10] Now if you own a pet now or if you've ever owned a pet before you know that animals hold a high vibrational frequency and they not only shift our energy the energy of our being but they also shift the energy within our homes. I personally noticed this when we've got our first dog fluff. Three years ago the energy vibration of the household definitely shifted upwards. He brought a much higher vibration into the house. The same thing happened with Lulu when we got her last year. The energy shifted again even higher. But you know spirits telling me to give a warning here because they show me they show me somebody running out and buying 10 dogs or using this as an excuse to keep buying or animals that they really don't have the time or energy to take care of.   [00:24:04] And you know as I'm saying this spirit just said Yeah. There's such thing as too much of a good thing right. So it's not like you want to get 10 dogs in your home just to keep raising the vibration. That doesn't help it's not a magic pill or an excuse not to do your work on yourself. Does that make sense. But if you're talking about owning a pet or a few that you have the time to devote your love and energy to. That's awesome. That's fantastic. And that's definitely what we're talking about today.   [00:24:37] There have been so many studies done you know study after study continues to show that owning a pet lessens the symptoms of depression and anxiety. These studies show that our pets help us their owners to maintain a more positive optimistic perspective on life.   [00:24:57] And really what we're faced with what we're going through at any one particular time. Now part of this is energetic and we're going to get to that but this is also really chemical reactions that are going on within your body because when you spend time petting and cuddling your pets they found that it increases your levels of oxytocin oxytocin was nicknamed the love hormone because it calms your nervous system and relaxes you while also increasing your trust.   [00:25:28] Isn't that interesting Well what's also interesting is that oxytocin is not the only hormone that is impacted inside your body. When we cuddle with our pets and spend time with our pets it also lowers our cortisol levels which really is the stress hormone right. So they didn't experiment at the University of New York where they gave people a stressful assignment.   [00:25:56] Now some of the people that they tested had a pet with them and some did not and what they found was that people experienced lower levels of stress when they had a pet with them. Isn't that incredible.   [00:26:11] Spirit says our pets are like tuning forks in our homes. Animals tune the energy of our homes ourselves to a higher vibration a higher frequency.   [00:26:23] And it's not something we even really stop to think about. But the heart chakra opens more deeply and we feel more when we're around our cute furry little animals. They really do reach a place inside of us and nurture us in a way that is beyond measure in this lifetime.   [00:26:43] Many of my clients can attest to this at my house so I do do phone readings. I do Skype readings they do a lot of that but I have an office space on the main level of my home where I see clients for sessions throughout the week and often when a client starts crying or even before they start crying. My dog Lulu she'll run down and she'll want to get to that person Lulu herself will often start whining or crying until I let her come down and really hop on the lap of the person who's in tears. And again she also kind of does this sometimes before the person even begins crying. So there is something within the animals where they can sense the emotions that we're having. They can get to it faster sometimes than we can really on a conscious level.   [00:27:37] I like to think of our animals our pets as gifts from heaven gifts from our angels because it does seem to be that what they're doing here is helping us shift our energy that that is really part of their purpose here and at a fundamental at the most basic level of what they are their vibrational level they are functioning in a way that helps us shift our energy and this is how they're doing it they're doing it through our bodies chemically they can see our emotions they can sense and feel our emotions mainly before we can and they're there to to be our little loves.   [00:28:23] The other common question that my clients have about pets is where do they go when they pass away.   [00:28:31] Do our pets cross the rainbow bridge. Are they in animal heaven. Well like I talked about in the session with all our animals are with us on the other side. In my sessions when I work with pets in heaven they don't show me a rainbow bridge.   [00:28:47] They show me them transitioning over to the other side the same way that we do as human beings except they do skip the whole life review process. But the way we transition over is that our energy slowly trickles out of our body out of this realm over to the other side. I spirit just said the only visual they have is an hourglass. You remember an hourglass has a big bubble on the top and a big bubble on the other bottom side but it's connected by this little teeny tiny tunnel in between the middle of both bubbles and there's sand inside. So when you flip it over the sea and slowly goes from one side of the bubble to the other through the tunnel to the other side and that's the same way that our energy works and it passes from this lifetime to heaven on the other side it slowly goes from one side to the other. So I don't see a rainbow bridge. That's not to say that there isn't one. I just I really don't see it. And I also don't see an animal heaven wishes just a basic place where all of these animals are. When animals come through in a session they're at your home on the other side so you've probably heard me say this but there's a place on the other side where each of us has a home. I call it home base and that is where your animals are. They're there waiting for you and you really don't have to worry about who's taking care of them or how they're being taken care of because you gotta remember your soul is omnipresent just like God is omnipresent. So a part of your soul they sometimes you'll hear it called the higher self. It is on the other side.   [00:30:37] It is a lot of times at that place called home base and you're there on the other side taking care of your pets on the other side everybody is all together friends I know you have more questions about animals energy and how all of this works.   [00:30:56] So let's do this. Why don't you hop on over to Instagram and go to my page which is at Angel podcast and ask your questions over there. Ask all of your questions about pets. If you have a different question we'll get to that. You can do that too. And I'll do a second future episodes on pets based on all the questions that I get from you there on Instagram. Also don't forget to follow me over there so that you can stay up to date on all of our latest news. But before you go let's do this and want to do a quick visualization. Spirit is saying that everybody listening today really needs this. I do have to say if you're driving please turn this off now but if you're not working if you're not driving and you can really concentrate. I want you to do this for me.   [00:31:47] I want you to center yourself maybe just take a second stop. You can sit down in a chair you can be standing wherever you are and I just want you to take a deep breath and go as deep deep and as you can and exhale as deep as you can   [00:32:19] Now. Bring your attention to your heart to the energy inside your heart the energy surrounding your heart and really your heart chakra keep breathing but I want you to ask yourself what am I feeling   [00:32:50] Now if you're feeling happy joyful highs some I want you to stay here and I want you to go deeper into what brings you that happiness and that joy. And I want you to give thanks and show gratitude to God a universe source energy for bringing all of that to you. And just stay here in gratitude and thanks for all of those blessings that have been given to you while I talk to everyone else. For those of you who are feeling sadness anxiety overwhelm fear loneliness. I want you to ask yourself why am I feeling this way. Take two deep breaths and allow the answer to really come to you. I'll start talking again in one minute after you take this time to explore your feelings.   [00:33:45] Now keep breathing.   [00:34:06] Now I want you to keep breathing and I want you to ask yourself another question which is what do I need. Because what do you need. Do you need to take action. Do you need to say something or do something. Or is this one of those times where it's not your battle and there's nothing that needs to be done. You just need to feel the feelings and allow them to flow through you. Take another two breaths while you focus on that question what do I need and I'll be back in another minute to direct you on the next step.   [00:34:43] After this now hopefully you were able to tap in.   [00:35:02] And did you see how a little voice inside of you came to tell you the answer. It's not like you're hearing someone else's voice on the other side. You're listening for a thought for a picture that comes to your mind maybe a mini daydream that comes to your mind and you know that that little voice was God universe source energy.   [00:35:24] If it was only 100 percent positive. So what direction are you supposed to go. What action are you supposed to take. Are you willing to muster the strength and faith inside yourself to get you where you need to be. Because you can. I want you to know that I believe in you. Your angels your loved ones. God believes in you. We believe that you can take the positive steps and actions to get yourself where you need to be.   [00:36:00] And we're all standing here as your cheerleaders rooting you on because you can do this. You got this.   [00:36:09] And if no one else has told you yet today we need you to know how worthy you are your spiritual team needs you to know that you're enough. You are worthy. For no other reason than you are a piece of God at your core. You are made from the same material as God. You are cut from the same cloth. You are one with everything and you're connected to it all. And my dear dear friend I have to tell you there isn't anything that you can't do here.   [00:36:45] So no in your heart you've got this. OK.   [00:36:50] Now repeat after me I am worthy. I am enough I am a smart I am talented I am capable I can do this I can see myself in the future as if I've already done it and I can see that it went the way that I wanted it to go.   [00:37:32] Ok. Dear friends thank you so much for participating in that with me. Have a wonderful start to your week. E mail me if you have any questions. I love you. I'm here for you. Also tune back in this Friday because we've got a great episode of Angel stories.   [00:37:51] Yes. We have real life stories about angels and loved ones coming through and showing their presence validating so much in people's lives. It's definitely an episode that will make the hairs on your arms stand up so you don't want to miss it.   [00:38:09] And don't forget if you have a story that you want to share with us about your angels or your loved ones coming through we would all love to feature it on this pad cast. You can write it and I can read it for you. Or if you're willing we'd love to have you come on the show and really speak it yourself tell the stories yourself too so we would love for you to write in about those stories let us know and we will connect with you on that. OK. Join us over on Instagram. 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Author Kay Eck joins us to answer some BIG spiritual questions like: Why are we here? What is the purpose of life? Why do we have to experience suffering here on Earth? Why are people experiencing stress, anxiety and depression more now than ever before? And how do we slow down, and dive deeper into ourselves? Kay Eck is the Author of Divorce a Love Story, which could really be titled, Life a Love Story because it is more about your relationship with yourself than anything else -- and she'll be on the show again on March 19th talking about her book and conscious couples! Connect with Julie & Continue the Conversation on Instagram! Website:  www.jancius.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   Connect with Kay Eck! Buy the Book on Amazon! YouTube Facebook Instagram   Show Notes *Show notes recorded by Sonix.AI computer.   [00:00:00] Hello beautiful souls before we begin I just want to share a few freebies with you first. If you subscribe on my Web site your name and contact info will be put in a jar that I pray on every morning. The Angels also have me pick a few people from that jar every week to text personalized Angel messages too that could be you. All you have to do is subscribe on my Web site. Also you can win a free session with me if you write a positive review of this podcast on iTunes after you post a glowing positive review on iTunes. Just e-mail me with your name contact info and review and you'll be entered into a monthly drawing to win a free session. For details on all of this visit my Web site: www.jancius.com. You're listening to angels and awakening where we believe daily life can be lived from a constant state of love, joy, peace, bliss, ease and grace Why are people always searching for a better way to live because there is one life doesn't have to be stress filled and anxiety ridden you can make lasting changes that lead to a life you love. My name's Julie Jancius I have the gift of connecting with angels and bringing through their healing positive messages to my clients every day. Join us on the angels and awakening podcast each week as we explore big spiritual questions. Interview experts and bring through Angel messages. I am so excited you're here!   [00:01:38] Hello everybody. Welcome back to five minute Fridays. We're here with Kay Eck.   [00:01:44] She is the author of Divorce a Love Story which is a magnificent book. If you haven't read it yet you definitely should. We are going to have her on in a couple more weeks talking about the book, talking about conscious uncoupling, talking about having more consciousness in relationships. But Kay is with us here today for our five minute Friday to just answer some big spiritual questions. So welcome Kay.   [00:02:14] Thank you. Julie it's great to be here.   [00:02:17] Oh good. Can you talk just a little bit about yourself and your book.   [00:02:21] Yes. So I have just written a memoir called Divorce a love story the power of self-love to heal every last thing. And this has definitely been a journey for me. It is my memoir of my process of consciously uncoupling from my husband of 30 years. And so it kind of takes you through my process and how I was able to heal from that and to create a loving path forward for my family. So yeah I've been busy promoting that and getting the word out because I'm hoping that it's it's it's really something that I feel we really need right now is to bring a lot of healing around the area of relationships.   [00:03:12] I'm so excited for our listeners to get to hear the episode because I know how they write how much they're just going to love it because it's not just about people going through uncoupling our conversation there was really about just relationships in general where women as mass consciousness where we are at in our relationships and where we're at with a marriage and how we see marriage changing really over the next 10 15 20 years. So that was a really fun conversation. But today we're going to kind of get to the heart of you and and your ideas and some big spiritual questions. Great. Yeah.   [00:03:57] The first one is have you ever connected with an angel or loved one on the other side or had kind of a supernatural experience and can you tell us about that.   [00:04:08] Oh well where do I begin. Well so I have throughout my life experienced sort of so I guess you could call them supernatural phenomenon and I feel like I have a couple of different areas that are kind of common themes.   [00:04:34] So one of them is that I often get medical information about people and it's not like earth shattering and it isn't something that I have spent any time developing so right now it's kind of more of a novelty but when I'm in someone's company that I know well and they express some concern about something going on I'll get some information about what's going on. So for instance I'll get information that they need to check their lungs or that they don't have this. They actually have that or that something it's not serious and it's going to resolve itself. So I'll get that and then I have often had the experience of people who've passed coming into my field and asking to deliver messages to their loved ones. That's not a super common experience but if I have a close friend typically I will hear from their loved one and passing that on is this my is it is a gift and I've I've I've had many experiences of connection with other dimensions primarily through my higher self. And yeah so that's a that's like how I live my life. So it's hard to talk about it in a   [00:06:04] Way that is episodic. Yeah yeah no that's perfect that's perfect. You   [00:06:11] Know I think what we're trying to do here with the podcast is we all have an intuition right. Which Spirit shows me is really our souls thought system.   [00:06:21] On the other side and what I see so much of is that talking about our intuition talking about these intuitive hits that we get is really Tabu right now in most parts of our society that we just don't talk about out how we're hearing from the other side. So kind of shedding some light on that and helping people to see that it's not just me it's not just you. Everyone has this. Everyone can learn how to develop this more is definitely one of the things that we want to do here.   [00:06:56] And it's just a matter of listening isn't it and not ignoring the small still voice as I call it which is your higher self or your soul. And you know in some respects we're very tuned in to the fact that we have a soul but we we have a disconnect. We think it's something outside of ourselves that we can't have a conscious relationship with on an everyday basis. And so it's it's there it's just a matter of accepting and listening.   [00:07:28] Yeah. OK. Next question. What is the purpose of life.   [00:07:36] Well my current thinking on this subject is that we are aspects of God experiencing everything. So I am an aspect of God or wanting to experience life as K EK And what I've really come to understand is the reason that there's no that I that there's no judgment about good bad right wrong is because it's all a divine experience and it's you can really relate it to the relationship between a parent and child in that having children is an experience that we're really a lot of us feel called to have. And yet we create something that is of us but is also autonomous. And this is exactly how our relationship with the divine is. We get to kind of choose these paths but this is all from God's perspective that we're living.   [00:08:42] Yeah. Yeah. That I couldn't have said that better. That is perfect. So then when people come in and they say well then why on earth do we have to experience pain.   [00:08:56] Why do we have to experience suffering. That's such a good question of course we're all wondering that. Well I guess I would say that our human minds are the ones that want to put labels on these experiences that if you go into a dark room you don't necessarily say that that's a bad room.   [00:09:23] You just say that it's a dark room. If you go into a light room you don't say it's a good room you just say it's a light room. And so when we can open up ourselves to explore and and understand that there there's no judgment of these experiences that our higher selves just wanted to experience every aspect of being human. And what that means then we can understand that. But there's also you know this concept that we don't grow unless we meet some resistance and the darkness can definitely be thought of as some resistance and we can decide how we want to interact with that whether we want to be enveloped by it or to transform it or to supersede it or to ignore it or you know we have all these choices that we our souls can grow from. So I mean it's hard to understand also that souls are autonomous and that they've asked for these experiences they know they knew what they were getting into when they decided to incarnate as a human. And so it's not really for us to judge whether those are good or bad experiences. They're just human experiences.   [00:10:44] That's perfect.   [00:10:47] Why are people experiencing stress anxiety and depression at such an increased rate than ever before.   [00:10:59] My perception of that and this is an issue very close to my heart is that we are experiencing an increase in polarity or in duality.   [00:11:16] So as our vibration lifts as a collective we become more aware of the lower densities for a period of time. So it's almost like you have like let's say you have a piece of play dough and you're pulling a top portion of the Plato up you can see that there's it's there's creating some tension between the lower caution and the upper portion. And that's kind of what we're experiencing now where we're especially amongst younger people they're coming in at a higher vibration. So the the three dimensional density of life on Earth is so much more intense for them. They really feel it. I also feel that what we are experiencing the anxiety and the depression is a clarion call to look at those feelings and to explore the roots of them so that we can set them free. So I tend to think of those things as coming up and out of the field as opposed to coming into us or being a part of us. And so I know from my own experience with anxiety and depression it was asking me to look at something look deeper sit with the fear why are you so afraid and what what. I came to was the realization that I felt alone on this planet. I didn't feel my connection with my source. I felt like I had been abandoned. I felt like I was unworthy of God's love. Of that I had no power. And so I once I uncovered those issues then I could say well is that true or is that not true. Is that my truth or is that not my truth. And so this is the process of discovery that that for me the anxiety and depression was was a gift to help me uncover   [00:13:24] And I know in your next book you're talking about really getting to a place of inner freedom. And you know I gotta tell you as we've been talking I can see there being a workbook with this. Have you thought about that.   [00:13:40] Wow that's interesting. I'm right at the beginning of this project and so there I am I'm seeing all kinds of possibilities. So I'm going to put that one up there.   [00:13:52] Yeah. Yeah. And I can see you talking in front of just a massive amount of people and they have you know a lot of them are women. They have the workbook right in front of them and they're they're going through.   [00:14:09] And you're kind of teaching and they're going through. Yeah I I think that I have really felt the calling to teach and have been doing that for a long time.   [00:14:25] Just on a smaller scale and I have also felt that I have also felt a larger and larger platforms and I think that one of the reasons why that is happening for me now is because I feel very rooted and grounded in my sovereignty. And I understand how self-love plays into that. So I can I can feel a great deal of compassion for people who are still working their way toward that. So thank you so much for that I appreciate it.   [00:14:59] All right. We're going to ask a couple more questions. What is the greatest quality humans possess.   [00:15:08] I personally have such a huge love and compassion for humanity as a whole. It is such a singular experience. We are as individuals really entrenched in the experience of being human that we don't have the perspective of how incredible it is to be human right now. And we're like these huge fields of light and love and energy that have this very special form of the human body with all the power of our source or all the creative power of our source we can literally create something out of nothing.   [00:16:01] We do it all the time without even realizing it. So we're sort of have this way of mimicking the creative expression of God in a very particular way. And I just think that's incredible.   [00:16:17] It's incredible to watch. If you think about the unlimited ways in which God expresses itself it's it's just unbelievable mind boggling and overwhelming.   [00:16:32] Mm hmm yes. Brings up a lot of emotion. So two of the most biggest forces of energy that we have in our experience here is creation and being creating and just really being in our life.   [00:16:53] And I know there are some people in the spiritual community whose message is really to live in the beingness live in the high vibration 24/7. But when we're in the creation process we're in the doing. I do feel like we come down in the vibration a little bit and I'm just wondering how you balance that. How do you stay in flow when life gets really busy. I of course I have a little bit of distance on this since my children are now in their twenties but   [00:17:31] The the busy lives are our creations. I really don't have to be that way. So that's something that we've created. But to answer the question about being in flow I think that the being in flow is a creative process. And I have always had this really close connection with my creative aspect. So I've I've always. When I was a kid I would create little sayings and little stories and games and plays and all that kind of stuff that kids do and that that ability to tap into the creative Essence has never left me. So to me the creative process is about opening up your connection to what wants to be expressed through you. So your higher self or your soul is an aspect of your Creator that wants to be expressed specifically as you. And if you could just imagine that those are like gates that you open and allow the flow to come through. And it requires stepping out of the mind and just setting the mind aside and and letting it come through the heart because when we think about high levels of expression whether it be visual arts or music or dance or performance writing all of these things we don't think of that as coming from the mind. We think of it as coming from a higher place and that higher place is the heart I see.   [00:19:11] I love that. Kay for anybody who wants to connect with you online on your website and social media where can they go. So right now the best places to reach me are on Facebook either at my personal page Kay Eck. Or on the page for my book Divorce a love story and also on Instagram @KaysAwake.   [00:19:41] And I know I got my copy of the book Divorce a love story on Amazon and it just I was able to start reading it on Kindle while I was waiting for the hard copy to be delivered to my house.   [00:19:55] Where else can people buy the book.   [00:19:57] I saw the book is available on Amazon but it's also available at Barnes and Noble dot com.   [00:20:03] Fantastic and I definitely recommend it it's a must read to anybody out there. It's not just about divorce you said once it could really be called life a love story. And that's very true it's for everyone. So Kate thank you so much for being on the show today. We are just so excited and everybody stay tuned for Kay's upcoming interview a longer in-depth interview about the book about life about kids about everything.   [00:20:31] So thank you Kay.   [00:20:34] Thank you so much. Truly it was really fun.   [00:20:48] My dear friends you don't know what an incredible huge huge huge blessing it is to this podcast when you write a glowing positive review for us. It truly helps us get the best experts on the show. I know this might sound a little complex but if you send me an email after you post a glowing positive review here I will put your name into a monthly drawing to win a free 30 minute Angel message session with me and it may just be broadcast on this show at a later date. Your name will be kept in the drawing every month until you win when you email me. Don't forget to include your name contact information and positive review. I hope you win.   [00:21:31] Tune in for a new episode next week where I'll share tools and guidance that can help you fall in love with your life and start living it from a place of peace bliss and ease.   [00:21:42] Thank you so much for listening to the angels and awakening podcast. 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Host of the Subconscious Mind Master Podcast and Author of the book Fear Busters, Thomas Miller, talks about how he transformed his life in his later 40's and shares the never-before-seen tools he's creating to help people become more conscious in their own lives -- it's top secret, he hasn't even shared these tools with his own tribe yet, but he's sharing them here today! We also talk about the thoughts we develop in childhood and how those thoughts shape us as adults -- and while we cannot change our childhood, it is our responsibility to fix our subconscious mental patterns as adults. A fascinating person. A fascinating hour of conversation! NOTE: Theres 2 minutes of audio that sound funny, but that completely corrects after those 2 minutes. Sorry about that! But thanks for sticking with us!    Continue the Conversation on Instagram! Website:  www.jancius.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   Connect with Thomas Miller Website Facebook   Show Notes *Show notes recorded by Sonix.AI.  [00:00:00] Hello beautiful souls! Before we begin I just want to share a few freebies with you. If you subscribe on my Web site, your name and contact info will be put in a jar that I pray on every morning. The Angels also have me pick a few people from that jar every week to text personalized Angel messages too. That could be you! All you have to do is subscribe on my Web site.   [00:00:20] Also you can win a free session with me if you write a positive review of this podcast on iTunes. After you post a glowing positive review on iTunes, just e-mail me with your name, contact info, and review and you'll be entered into a monthly drawing to win a free session. For details on all of this visit my Web site. www.jancius.com. W w w that Gen.   [00:00:41] You're listening to angels and awakening where we believe daily life can be lived from a constant state of love joy peace, bliss, ease and grace. Why are people always searching for a better way to live? Because there is one life doesn't have to be stress filled and anxiety ridden. You can make lasting changes that lead to a life you love. My name's Julie Jancius. I have the gift of connecting with angels and bringing through their healing positive messages to my clients every day. Join us on the angels and awakening podcast each week as we explore our big spiritual questions. Interview experts and bring through Angel messages. I am so excited you're here.   [00:01:38] So today we're here with Thomas Miller. He's the host of the subconscious mind mastery podcast. A podcast he's been hosting for over six years. His podcast covers the powers of manifestation, the laws of the universe, and how the conscious and subconscious minds work together. His listeners say that he provides an accessible road map to learning how to change your life for the better. How to turn your life into what you want it to be. Thomas has talked to all the great authors researchers scientists everyone who is at the forefront of brain research and what I love about your story Thomas is that you say you started to make this shift in your life that you really came into these big changes these big leaps in your later 40s. Can you tell us more about who you are and what you do?   [00:02:33] Hi Julie thank you. What a great introduction and loving your new podcast. Thank you for having me on.   [00:02:40] Oh thank you for being our guest. We just appreciate it so much.   [00:02:43] Well my story goes back quite a while quite a few years ago I had major changes though in my late 40s. So yeah I was a late bloomer of becoming conscious if you will.   [00:02:58] Hey it doesn't matter when it happens just that it happens right.   [00:03:01] Boy is that the truth. But you know, now my heart is for folks your age to get this because then you have all these decades in front of you to really compound this incredible growth that you can have in your life and the impact that you can have on the world is phenomenal. So yeah I played my part did my role and I'm living out my journey but. But yes I have such a heart for young people so I'm really thrilled to again to be participating here with you. But my story goes back to Tulsa Oklahoma where I was born and Tulsa is a fundamental town.   [00:03:44] I mean it's a great, talk about a great place to grow up wonderful community but it just had a fundamental underpinning in it culturally. So my parents were wonderful, very loving. We were a Christian family and that has a belief system and kind of especially in that it was it was accentuated because of where we were and the teachings that were common in around our community. So life was very rigid.   [00:04:18] I mean this is the way you were and this is what you believed in if you stepped out of that then there was disfavor with mom and dad and there was disfavor with the community so you can kind of see how even though everybody responds differently it was not the kind of place that you would step out of line if you thought I mean right. Because if you did I mean it was you know there was judgment quickly would would prevail so my brother and I because of respect for our parents are wonderful mom and dad who are both in spirit now we'd never either of us rebelled we didn't become the rebellious teenagers and climb out the windows at night and you know and go do all the stuff that a lot of kids do. We were obedient. So I went to college having never done a lot of the things that typical teenagers might have done.   [00:05:12] And that belief system created a box I guess that I lived in I thought that was the right thing to do. I mean that's how I was taught. I was brought up in Christian schools and all this and I just thought that that was the way that we were supposed to be. And I never knew that there was this whole big else wise way of seeing things or doing things. And what broke all that down was after four decades I had been through two divorces and see in that model you didn't get divorced once much less twice. So I had to sit down and figure out what happened. And that was my reaction to my second divorce was spent a year kind of just shaking my fist toward heaven. That was a bad year. That was kind of an off year but then I sat down and I said I've really got to figure out what happened because I don't want to do this again. So the first thing I did is I erased that entire belief system. I was like that didn't serve me. So I got to start there because at least I'm coming from that perspective. So I need to change my perspective on everything about life.   [00:06:25] So just like you would erase a chalkboard I erased my belief system because that belief system was really your programming since childhood right.   [00:06:35] Totally totally programmed and that's why I called the podcast subconscious mind mastery because I discovered after about a year of picking my life apart completely that a lot of the beliefs that I constructed as a child played themselves out without me having to lift a finger to do anything so I could see things that I was afraid of.   [00:07:01] That I built in fears as a child.   [00:07:04] All of a sudden I'd look when I was in my mid thirties and boy it had happened just as I had constructed it so let's break down like an example because I think you know so often in a spiritual community you know we talk big and broad back.   [00:07:20] How give me an example of this. And maybe one of the. The thoughts are the subconscious constructs that you had and how you rewired it.   [00:07:32] I found this really cool thing just not long ago and I did a recent podcast on it called Destiny cards. Have you ever heard of Destiny cards. No I haven't heard of that. Oh you ought to google it. It this is really fun and cool. So I found these destiny cards and it's basically it paints a beautiful picture of our how we came in and what our journey is through a deck of regular playing cards and there's a whole lot more to it than that. But my destiny Card said that I would have challenges in two areas relationships and finances or relating to money. OK so one of the constructs that I built in this actually really got reinforced after that my first divorce the biggest reaction that I had to my first divorce was that I was going to lose the money that I had built up in my 20s and 30s.   [00:08:34] It's not a funny reaction I think it's a typical reaction.   [00:08:38] I had two young kids and I was more concerned about the money. And that's hard to admit but that's the way it was.   [00:08:46] And see a lot of people would make themselves wrong about that. Like what. You weren't more concerned for your children than you were your bank account. But then when you come back and you you know these things that are built into the structure of the universe to show us the path and show us the way like this little Destiny card thing that comes along and says Dude you were wired to have these problems oh so I was just going through C and this is where the consciousness had I been aware of that I could have chosen. We all have choice right at the end of the day we all have choice. Absolutely.   [00:09:27] Then I could have chosen to do that to react to that differently. Problem was I was blind. I didn't know. I simply didn't know. So I went with what was there and what was there created this fear around I'm going to lose all this money well then when I started to pick my life apart I spent a year doing this with a journal literally almost every night reconstructing what had happened.   [00:09:58] So I would go back to particular events in my childhood and I was able to go back and find areas where I interpreted lack of money.   [00:10:09] So that's what happened in my in my family.   [00:10:12] We never quote unquote had enough although we had plenty in our lives.   [00:10:18] So you went back and you really found those moments from your childhood where these constructs of your mind started so that you could then piece it back together in a different way. Re Re pattern those thoughts within your mind.   [00:10:35] So what was normal to me as a child. That's absolutely right.   [00:10:40] Just as you said that was the process.   [00:10:43] What was normal to me as a child was. Inflation is going to rob all of our savings because prices are just going to keep going up and up and up.   [00:10:52] And that was true back in the 1970s. My mom lived in a world where she would go to the grocery store and a loaf of bread would be 50 cents more next week than it was this week. But it stopped you know it changed and the economy changed in the 1980s and it was different. And then prices were going down. So it's like but everything was just this crisis and emergency and the fear and we weren't going to have enough and if you died without accepting Jesus as your savior you were going to go to hell and just fear everywhere. In my background.   [00:11:27] So I applied that fear to money and sure enough that fear fulfilled itself.   [00:11:35] So I found myself after the second divorce having to start to rebuild everything financially and emotionally and spiritually and all of it yeah.   [00:11:45] I love those times though when they say spirit breaks us to make us.   [00:11:50] I had a similar thing happened in my life where it was like everything just came crashing down all at one time and it took away the self identity that I had put into my career that I had Clinton to my relationship and it it made me take a step back and realize I'm not worthy because I have this title I'm not worthy because I'm finally making the money that I wanted to be making at work. I'm not worthy because of this or that I'm worthy just because I am.   [00:12:26] That's a hard one to get sometimes isn't it. Yeah.   [00:12:29] Especially when we think we've messed it all up you know. Right yeah. So yeah I mean it's like and I've I've used a couple of other tools that just have helped me with perspective these destiny cards just happened to come across my path recently and I'm finding it to be very exciting and fun but it's an astrology is another thing that I've used to just paint the picture of what these realities are. You know I'm wired differently than you are. Go figure that Julie really.   [00:13:01] So my journey and the challenges that I'm going to face in my life and the struggles that I have to go through are going to be different than what yours having to go through and you might find ease and flow with money.   [00:13:17] Know I was looking up one of those cards in fact for a very close friend of mine and that's exactly what his card was. And that's what's happened in his life. You know it's like so that I'm that I came here to struggle in that area now that I know that.   [00:13:36] And like use a pun here put the cards all out on the table and let that be okay. Now what am I doing.   [00:13:46] I mean if this was just a kind of a fresh reminder that now what I'm doing is I'm studying everything I can about about finances and money and I'm just kind of going back to the basics and rebuilding that because I had done well in my 20s and 30s and then I let all this fear come in and kind of tear the whole thing down. So I'm just rebuilding that area and having fun doing it.   [00:14:13] Oh I love that. I love that.   [00:14:16] So Thomas you've been studying subconscious mind mastery for longer than it's been popular right.   [00:14:22] You've talked to the authors the the people who are at the forefront of studying consciousness and positive thinking. What do you know for sure from all your research on how our brains work how the whole system here on earth works to get us where we want to go to really bring the desires of our hearts to fruition.   [00:14:44] That's a great question.   [00:14:46] Well so a couple of things one of my favorite sayings is when the student is ready the teacher appears and that happens so much through that process and a teacher appeared for me in 2013.   [00:15:04] His name is Fred Dodson.   [00:15:06] He's written 25 books and he and I connected through me soliciting him to record his books for audio books. He had not done any audio books at the time so Fred and I have done now 24 of his 25 books.   [00:15:25] He has been a mentor to me in my growth in this new way of being that I can't even begin to describe and not only just from a mentor as in reading his material or taking courses or going to seminars or whatever. I'm sitting in front of this microphone for hours reading his material as him so I'm figuring out how I can inflect his voice how would Fred say this. So for the last about five or six years I've literally in a sense become like a second image of Fred Dodson right because I'm trying to really honestly communicate the way that he would. So I listen to his videos the way he talks the way he and flex and try in my own skin to inflect that. And I think that's had a tremendous rub off.   [00:16:20] So Fred has been really I have to attribute where I really got most of this information is from his work. So if somebody wanted to look into that they are certainly welcome to his name is Fred Dodson. And with that I would prove again because you're not going to pull one off on me again right. I'm not going to just believe something because you say so. So I put it all to the test and what I found is that his material and all of this material really on that we are co creators I have found it true over and over again to the point where I'm still like wow this thing really just manifest. I'm getting ready to get on an airplane this afternoon to go up to Colorado to work on consummating a business deal that I created over the last three years and it's happening and I am going to make money off of this transaction exactly as I created it over three years ago.   [00:17:22] So it does work. I mean it's exciting and it's still happening right now.   [00:17:28] I love that that's so perfect. So in your research where do you find to be the most fascinating part. What do you find to be the most fascinating part of my mastery or maybe from this author that you shared what is the most fascinating part of his message that he shares you.   [00:17:49] Well you're asking some great questions. I love a journalist's background. OK well me too then will I. All right then I'll I'll get to Shay here we'll get going on.   [00:18:02] I love it. All right. That's a great question. The most exciting thing to me has been the discovery that this is a soul based journey we get so caught up in the trappings around us. We live in a physical world. You live in Chicago I live in Dallas I go back and forth to Colorado. We have families. I heard a dog in the background. You know we have kids. We do our thing right. Yeah.   [00:18:35] And that becomes the structure of our reality. So everything we connect to are the physical things around us when you zoom up ten thousand feet like a drone you know now we have the drones I don't know if you've ever flown one but they are so cool because you can just hover up above the trees and then all of a sudden you can rotate that camera all around the view and look at it completely different than we do down in the trees.   [00:19:03] And when you view our life from a soul perspective and I know that's a lot of your work and you are gifted in that area to connect with that beyond the physical. That's a wonderful gift to have and I you know I think we all can to a degree but I know there are people that are more gifted with that my girlfriend Mirjana is like you you know she will hear messages from the other side. I don't have that I you know I mean maybe it's developable but I don't have it today more intuitive maybe but not in the way that you guys do.   [00:19:46] Fred did a book Fred wrote a book called lives of the soul and it actually picks up a death and it goes through until our next incarnation.   [00:19:55] What happens in between Michael Newton also does a lot of this type of this work that we are a soul and eternal soul on a journey that we are growing that this isn't our first rodeo and that we come in with in essence a blueprint it's like a roadmap we have choice within the road but we are on a road and boy did that answer so many questions that that I couldn't figure out in the old paradigm. So the most exciting thing for me was discovering from our higher level that this is a much bigger journey than it is manifesting a new car or new house or gee I'd really like to move to Chicago.   [00:20:51] How do I pull that one off.   [00:20:53] You know it's. Does that make sense.   [00:20:55] Totally 100 percent well and that's what we're really coming into right is I don't want to say stepping away from religion but it's because I grew up going to Catholic school and I could remember as a little girl the first thing that I wanted to be was a nun. But there wasn't a you couldn't have a family and be a nun. And I knew at a very young age that I wanted a family.   [00:21:19] So we have these constructs within our minds so young and coming and stepping out of those and realizing like you just said so beautifully so eloquently is that we are souls we are souls first and foremost and we can choose with our free will to live more from our souls energy to live more from our intuition which is I believe our souls thought system on the other side here and now. So this is such fun work to be able to share the broad community.   [00:21:59] Well and I know you'll be addressing this as your podcast episodes unfold but that you can connect with those souls and hear a message other than how we came up.   [00:22:13] Hey I'm trapped in Purgatory. Get me out of here or Woops I didn't say the right word and the prayer and I'm in hell because of it.   [00:22:22] You know it's like we laugh at that but you know I mean it's serious business that I like. I believe that for 40 years. What if I didn't get it right. You know a fear of hell. And one of the boy one of the transformative conversations I had is with a really good friend of mine Daniel Dana Carvey lives here in the Dallas area and we were on a patio not far from here having drinks one night and he said you know what if there were no sin.   [00:22:55] Think about that. Think about if sin just didn't exist because as he was saying at the end of the day who really is the judge well the Bible is the judge.   [00:23:08] Well wait a minute. There are 80 denominations because we can't agree on how to interpret the Bible. So let's back up who again is the judge whether you just send or not right. So what if you just took cent off the table and just said we're all on a journey now.   [00:23:27] If I if I kill another human being I'm going to certainly pay for that.   [00:23:34] That's a crime in our criminal justice system and this gets weird.   [00:23:39] I'm telling you this gets weird don't judge me on this but when you zoom up to that 10000 foot perspective then the mindset of today that everything is supposed to be nice and cushy and soft and easy and smooth goes away and I like the book by Neale Donald Walsh.   [00:24:05] Little Soul in the sun. Are you familiar with that little book now to cancel it out.   [00:24:11] Yeah it's a kid's book.   [00:24:13] Beautifully illustrated and the story is the two little souls on the other side who are getting ready to incarnate. And one of the little souls says that their mission is to work on forgiveness   [00:24:27] But the Little Soul is concerned because it doesn't know how it's going to be able to forgive unless somebody is mean to the soul that the soul has to forgive them so it's little partner soul says well I'll incarnate with you and I'll be mean to you. I'll do something to hurt you so that you can forgive me. How about that and the first hurdle. Yeah that first little soul says why would you do that for me would you really go down there and hurt me so that I could forgive you and the second soul says I would do it because I love you that much.   [00:25:12] I got to tell you so I don't know if you know much about my story but the way that I came into this gift was exactly that real my dad I.   [00:25:26] I love him to death and I go through my first podcast I talk about all the wonderful wonderful beautiful parts of him you know his really his one flaw was women and I caught him cheating on my mom for the first time when I was pretty young in elementary school and I didn't know how or what to do with that information or how to handle that information.   [00:25:50] And then I caught him again in middle school and in middle school again you know you're in a Catch 22 you love your mom you love your dad what do you do. And I ended up feeling in my heart that I was just going to punish him by pushing him away by not talking to him by distancing myself. So I did that all throughout my teenage years my twenties and we always tried to come back together but he'd have one girlfriend and I'd hear about how he had other girlfriends on the side and I was like I can't I can't be apart you know like at some point you got to get it together.   [00:26:29] And when he passed I started hearing from him a month before his family reached out to let me know he was gone and yeah. And I ended up having a visitation dream from him. Maybe six seven months later where he was on the other side and they actually showed me my house on the other side. They were at this big party it was like a welcome home. Julie's back and I could see my dad out of the corner of my eye walking around as I was talking to other friends and family that I didn't know I knew but I knew I knew him in the dream and my dad finally came up to me after what felt like a couple hours and he said well we should talk shouldn't we. And we went outside and there was a big lake outside and the scenery changed to a place we used to go out on a lake as a kid when I was when I was a child and he left me for the first time without us giving his side of the story just vent to him about him for hours on end and he just poured tears out of his eyes like I had never seen before and he said Julie if I could go back and take that all back I would but I can't. And even more than that dream when I woke up I was bawling hysterically when I woke up and that never happens.   [00:28:05] And I knew in my heart that he had been here not as a bad guy not as this flawed soul but he had been here to stir up some stuff so that we all could learn our lessons because he's got four kids we all that different stuff from him we all learned different stuff from him.   [00:28:32] He's got other stepchildren who learned from him as well and that is so right on.   [00:28:39] Here's the part that I can't connect the dots on. OK. As a person who has a community of people listening to them Where is the boundary so that people don't say well they're no bad on the other side I'm just going to go murder these bad people. Oh no. Whatever it might be you know. I don't I don't have that down yet.   [00:29:07] Karma is a bitch.   [00:29:10] Yeah.   [00:29:14] You will pay.   [00:29:17] So you know when you study this like you're talking about and this so fits Fred's lives of the soul and Michael Newton's work of what 7000 I think hypnosis sessions that he did to get this same message when you see recurring patterns.   [00:29:34] So it's like so many people who connect with the other side talk about this being the way that that things are. Again let's zoom up to the 10000 foot perspective of this is a soul growth process. So if you say well yeah there are no rules or judgments or anything on the other side. Well first of all there's gonna be hell to pay on this side. I don't know about you but I would not do well living in a 10 by 10 box for the rest of my life. This doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Not for 10 minutes much less for decades so you know there's there's that built in.   [00:30:14] Is this what I would really want to go do but if even if that didn't move you and you still had that that vile impulse Oh I got to show you something to let me show this.   [00:30:30] This works really well. I got a clue for the folks watching on video. Well we'll show you something here. This is something I've been working on. Nobody knows this. So I'm like.   [00:30:41] You're like the first I have I haven't even done this for my own podcast audience but we're going to let you know so because I mean you asked your journalistic skills are quite sharp so if we think about this from a soul growth perspective and we connect with what all is available when we do grow our soul it becomes such an incredible motivator to me to want to reach those higher levels of consciousness because there is so much magic up there there is so much wonder that we can't even imagine at those higher levels of consciousness that we don't get when we let our humanity get the best of us.   [00:31:32] You know.   [00:31:33] So what I was saying earlier and what you brought up like your dad's role in a sense was to stir stuff up for people so that they could grow.   [00:31:45] And we don't get that in our in our society today in our. I was going to say liberal or progressed you know our forward thinking society doesn't like those challenges doesn't make them that our society doesn't. It's not OK to be one who would stir up for others so that they could forgive. That doesn't resonate today. Right. We're not at that level of consciousness that you can know we like to make stories.   [00:32:14] We like to say oh well he must be really stupid because he lost his job or she must be this because this happened you know we want to apply a story to everything. He's a bad guy because he cheated. You know this story.   [00:32:30] It's all a story. Yeah I went through my transitional period I went through a program that a friend of mine said hey go just go to this it'll change your whole perspective on things that was called the Landmark Forum. And I did that weekend.   [00:32:43] I've done it once and it did.   [00:32:47] And one of the things that you take away from that program is how much we are enveloped in our stories. We make a story up out of everything.   [00:32:57] That's exactly right.   [00:32:59] So here's something that we're working on. This was a work in progress from one of the books that I did with Fred. And this is totally with his blessing. And we were corresponding on it yesterday. And he's like you've got to take this and run with it because this is this is good stuff so what the book was called low levels of energy. OK. So levels of energy by Fred Dodson and then the kind of the companion book that came before that about a decade prior was called power versus force by Dr. David our Hawkins and Dr. Hawkins used this as the basis of one of the largest clinical psychology practices in the country out of Long Island. He passed away in 2012 but left us with this incredible work that basically takes consciousness and puts it on a scale so both authors used the same scale Fred's treatment of the material is completely different Dr Hawkins is more scientific Fred is more practical applicable.   [00:34:01] But basically if you take all of our human emotions all of our human existence and put it on a scale from zero to 1000 let's say the numbers don't mean anything it just is the relativity if you go out and kill somebody that's probably a 20.   [00:34:17] It's down around the area of psychosis depression 50 fear one hundred anger 160 narcissism pride arrogance one ninety.   [00:34:28] Those are all low levels of consciousness so we've come up with this little system that's representing represented by these rings. So I've got four colors of rings. So if you take that all those low levels of consciousness and we'll just this is kind of a maroon color brown color and if you see that but that. So let's say that all of those are here right and then like daily life you know we we get the kids ready we take them to school we go to work we come back we help them with their homework we put them to bed we watch an hour of TV we go to we go to sleep that's that's just like we're just getting by.   [00:35:11] Right.   [00:35:11] Life works not bad not setting any records not you know creating anything not changing the paradigm of the culture but you know not bad we're getting by for those who can't see physically in the video he's got two rings and maroon ring and then he just added with that last statement a red herring on top of it. All right. So then we're going to put on top of that a golden colored ring. All right. So that's now we start to step outside of ourself and we start to put others first. Selfless service if you will we're moving up the scale the scale is is represented by these three ring stacked on top of each other that are different colors but we're moving up or getting higher. So we're growing and when you start to really step out of yourself when you put others first when you are full of joy when you're just happy when you're fun to be around when you give to others we Marjan and I were at a hotel up in Arkansas the other day and walking out there was this guy who was sweeping the floor in front of the door and one of those carpet pad things you know and he was just sweeping that and just getting and he'd go back the other way and somebody walk down the hall Oh thank you for staying at our hotel.   [00:36:30] This was at a Marriott. It was in his hotel I promise you he had known the darn thing right. But he was so proud. Oh thank you for being our guest we can't wait to see you back again. Have a nice day.   [00:36:42] That was that's this kind of that's that's the gold right. You know he's working twelve dollar an hour job up in Arkansas sweeping the floors and hauling the trash out and he's just serving other people. Beautiful. And then when so the final ring is is turquoise colored.   [00:37:01] Those are the pure levels of of unconditional love pure joy peace creativity.   [00:37:12] Think of Malala today is really representing this little girl that was shot in the head by the Taliban and lived. And her story is magnificent. Mother Teresa would have been in that we think of Gandhi you know so just those those areas where we really transcend our humanity because we're in such a different higher level different zone.   [00:37:38] So when you put all those together and you look at those colors that's the scale of consciousness.   [00:37:47] So when you're making that decision now remember we all have choice. This is the thing is at the end of the day nobody's making us do anything more than the visual. When you see those you know look say for the camera but if you're just listening on audio so you've got a maroon ring at the bottom a red ring a gold ring and a turquoise colored ring if you live out of that maroon colored ring you're going to get bad results.   [00:38:16] You're going to get bad results today and you're gonna get bad results on the other side you're going to have to come back and do it again. You want to do a do over.   [00:38:26] Now do you want to take two or three or five because you are stuck in that stubbornness or if you zoom up and you go wow you know and even if we again here for the folks that are not on camera let's just take the golden ring and the turquoise ring if you could live in that level of being loving giving serving helping.   [00:38:58] Not only are you in the paradox the cool paradox is that you feel better when you give out of yourself when you give it away.   [00:39:07] You get and that's built into the system.   [00:39:10] So it's like when we make that shift and then through our free will choice we say I am going to choose to serve somebody and we start to stack that up over decades of our life.   [00:39:29] Wow.   [00:39:31] I mean what you get back from that. So if you live that through five or six decades one of the cool things about being older there are very few. But one of the cool ones is you get the perspective. Wow you don't have as a younger person. You don't see what happened over those four four or five decades. But when you've lived through those four or five decades and you see compounding at work you realize you can compound interest and grow your bank account but you can also compound your karma if you will or you can compound your your energetic part of you and live that out over five or six decades and you have such a wealth of treasure at the end of that line that it's absolutely beautiful. And then you go on to much higher levels.   [00:40:25] There's so much more Julie there's so much more than we see now we could talk about this for so long I could talk about you I'd talk with you for hours.   [00:40:34] Oh there's so much that we don't see in our little boxes in our confined world that is below the tree level. And just when we get up there to these other realms there's so much and and that's my motivation. That's why I choose to do it what I do. Where's the boundary you ask. I don't think there is one. I mean if you break a law you're going to pay for it in our culture. There are some cultures where you can go do that and get away with it. Walk out scot free. Right. And you know so it's like comically you're not going to walk out scot free energetically you're not going to walk out scot free anywhere.   [00:41:13] Yeah.   [00:41:13] And that's what I tell my clients to because when I'm working and all of my sessions you know so many people and even mediums or psychics that I've heard on TV they'll say well on the other side there is no emotion and you don't hear or see people come through with emotion.   [00:41:28] And to me that's not true. One of the things that happens a lot is if somebody passed through suicide they will come through and I will be bawling hysterically in a session because that's the energy that they have on the other side. They're bawling hysterically. They're bringing that emotion through. And what they show me is that you know people who pass that way and there is no bad place on the other side. There's nothing like that. But we do have to go through a life review. On the other side. And that isn't sitting in a movie theater watching our lives on this big screen what it is is actually being in a simulation where we go through where we intentionally hurt somebody else and stepping into the body stepping into the mind of the heart of the other person and feeling our actions and how it hurt that other person which is actually where I think Catholics get the idea of purgatory because it is kind of this middle ground between us that happened but it doesn't take that long for most people to kind of go through. But we do get a much greater understanding it does help us clearer energy before we go through on the other side.   [00:42:49] Have you communicated with people who have either been in the midst of that process or just completed it like and can come back. Well that that you are communicating with like they had just been through that review or they were in that review I'd love to know what they say while they're in the process of that review of the review.   [00:43:10] It says if they take on and they become that other person because they physically have to step fully into that person and forget themselves to be that person in order to feel the way that their own actions in this lifetime hurt that person.   [00:43:31] So see if we're going to do that anyway. Yeah. Why not just do it today. Why not do it right. Right. Right. And I'm holding up the golden ring.   [00:43:42] Why not just choose to go ahead and do it today.   [00:43:45] I took Madonna's Madonna and I are partners but but not married and I took her son to school today just to be golden ring. Just. It's something I normally don't do but. And he's you know teenager whatnot. But I just said Hey it's raining. Would you like a ride you know. Yeah. It's stuff like that.   [00:44:07] It's that connecting with just to be there with somebody else to do something that's not serving you.   [00:44:15] Right. Oh I love that because you know it's so often people will say well what if I don't feel this through meditation or what if I don't feel that they think that they're not good they get to that place that golden ring. Right. But that's not what it's about. It's just about starting where you're at. And everybody has something that they can do from a self selfless point of view.   [00:44:39] So start there. Start with gratitude because everyone can do this every single soul that is here on Earth right now can do this.   [00:44:47] This working on this. We're putting a seminar together on this. Just started writing a book on it. Fred's involved consulted early with this.   [00:44:57] And yeah but the book's going to have your title isn't it. It is your name. Yeah. Is this the first one. I second the second.   [00:45:06] Ok. What was the name of your first book. Filibusters. OK. OK. Because there's more to come. That was coming through when I was praying this morning. They were saying talk about his book.   [00:45:16] Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You're not done here. Tom you've got a lot of stuff coming ahead.   [00:45:23] Yes you're good. You and I are going to talk. All right. All right Kyra. We're going to talk to you if you talk. No.   [00:45:36] That's awesome. And that I told you that I that we communicated about this yesterday. That was the communication was him handing the baton saying no you need to do this full out this one.   [00:45:48] Wow. Wow. Well they are so proud of you. Yeah. And I got to tell you too your mom and your dad are stepping forward and who is the younger boy that's on the other side.   [00:46:04] Not.   [00:46:08] Not from mom and dad. But there was a miscarriage.   [00:46:11] Yeah. Yeah.   [00:46:12] And that's. And and that soul has shown up several times by the way.   [00:46:16] Ok. As male. No. OK. First time I've heard male OK. Because they're bringing him forward and your mom. I don't know if there was a special bond between you and mom or you were kind of like.   [00:46:32] Because she comes through with tears in her eyes just saying how proud she is of you and just how how much you've grown.   [00:46:43] And she just she's making me feel it in my heart. Yeah well yeah and dad too.   [00:46:54] But she comes through with kind of some tears in her eyes so interesting because mom was the source of a lot of my challenge. She was my little soul that came here to rub me.   [00:47:09] Yes. Gave me lots of opportunities that I missed a lot of them.   [00:47:17] She says she did a good job.   [00:47:19] It seems that great job she played her role well thanks Mom. You were perfect. Yeah. Dad my Dad was an angel. I mean if you were to see him you'd see wings on his back. He was just an amazing amazing soul. And my mom was the source of my challenges. And you know this is so funny my brother and I are less than two years apart and he perceived that environment. He he knew of the challenges. He was very aware of the challenges not to say that it didn't affect him too but he responded to her differently.   [00:47:52] See I responded out of my paradigm what I brought in. He responded out of his paradigm. So here we were not ten feet apart. Growing up and and yet had these two different perspectives and outcomes and how it affected our souls differently and everybody has that story right. Everybody has that story but that's where we are so unique and so different. And yeah that mom would say that I I was in the room after she passed and now or when she passed and knowing what I know now of studying this material and being very comfortable with her soul transitioning was able to talk to her my brother and I in fact and his wife. We were the three together with her and were letting her know that it was OK and we would be OK and we would take the mantle and run with it from here and that she could let go and didn't need to hang on and I mean it was just hours before she left after that but but they left the room and knowing that her soul was probably still there. Knowing that I was in the room by myself and I sat down with her and had a conversation that I know she heard me and it was the conversation that I could never have with her here and it was kind of a clearing and it was a letting her soul know that it was OK I get it I get what happened here and be free.   [00:49:18] Godspeed and I love you.   [00:49:20] Yeah forgiveness really treat your heart right but you're released. We're good we're good here. Yeah yeah yeah. Beautiful that's beautiful beautiful beautiful. You know on Instagram the other day one of I just somebody popped down and they asked a question and I think it would be a good question. I've got my own kind of idea and how I'd respond but I just want to see what you think about this.   [00:49:46] So she said you know we have our subconscious. We have people like medium psychics intuitive Angel readers. How do you know that it to you hearing from the other side you hearing from angels or maybe like your girlfriend. How does she say that she knows them and just not our subconscious. These experiences that we had that we're just recalling.   [00:50:15] Got it. Got it. That's a great question and so many people also ask how do I know that it's intuition and not just my monkey mind. Right. You can bring it down to the earthly plane like even if we're not connecting with somebody on the other side. How do I know that this isn't just my Chatterbox up there going nuts that I really am hearing from divine source internally as intuition. I think it kind of comes from the same same type of answer to this for me.   [00:50:42] Now I know for Mirjana It would be that she would say very distinct feeling that she gets when these communications are coming it's like like no other. She has had it all of her life. So this is not anything new or unique for her so she knows that voice. Yep. So just on that. What is that. How is it for you.   [00:51:09] You know I've had several different experiences throughout my life. I didn't just hear my dad but in my early twenties. I had an experience that I've talked about with my listeners before where I heard I was actually out with this woman that I just randomly met on a business trip in Seattle. I met her on the street and spent the entire day with her. And at the middle of like talking after seven hours she just automatically went in to speaking in tongue.   [00:51:42] Wow. And she I remember thinking what language is this because this is not a language that I've heard on Earth before.   [00:51:52] This is not South Chicago I'm listening to hear it no no.   [00:51:57] And then I remember this analogy and it almost did feel like like a fog that you could see.   [00:52:06] And I remember hearing now this was at a very hard point in my life where my heart was just more heavy than it had ever been before. And I remember hearing it's okay you're gonna be okay. I'm here with you I love you I'm taking care of you everything's gonna be OK.   [00:52:28] And it just kept repeating and I remember knowing that that was an angelic that there were angels there that that was the Holy Spirit and that energy is something that when then I started hearing from my dad later on started working with different Reiki masters different spiritual teachers learning how to develop my spiritual get more. You're right. It's the energy of it. I know when I'm connected to it I know when I'm connected to the other side. And since I was the little girl one of my earliest memories is my dad telling me listen to your heart listen to your heart there's a little Julie there's a little whisper inside your heart and it's gonna talk to you and you have to listen to that whisper no matter what your mind says. And so I remember doing that since I was a little girl while always listening to that little whisper.   [00:53:26] And so I've trained myself since that time to understand what's my mind what's my heart.   [00:53:32] And that the thoughts the messages that come through from the other side they don't come through our ego mind. They come through the heart gut intuition.   [00:53:43] That's cool.   [00:53:44] That's beautiful yeah yeah.   [00:53:47] I had a very interesting experience to kind of flex my intuitive muscles. I was in Colorado for the last three years and there was a hiking trail that went up the side of a mountain literally right across the street from where I was staying and I went up there having done five or six or seven years of this work but still didn't have that touch with that voice and actually it started the first funny story on this is I went up there is a flat lander and started skiing and skiing kind of snuck up on me and I just love snow skiing. Now I think it's phenomenal. I just love it. But I you know I had I didn't have a system I would typically go every now and then would go skiing and hadn't been on a ski trip for quite a while and now I'm living in a ski town.   [00:54:44] So I was going up the chair one Sunday and this was really clear so I think this kind of is the same type of thing I was going to take a picture with my phone. So I had it in a pocket inside my jacket. So I reached to unzip the jacket pulled it down about a foot and I heard as I reached my hand and I heard this really clear don't and I was like Oh come on I'll hold on tight you know I'll I'll grip it I'll be careful.   [00:55:16] So I I pulled my glove I pulled my glove off by sticking it under my left arm. So here's my. And   [00:55:23] I reached in with my right hand got my phone took my picture slid it back in the jacket zipped it up so see it's all good and then I went to put my glove back on it now and oh so that was like oh wow I need to know more about this I need to learn more of how this works.   [00:55:47] So on the hiking trail I started to get in touch with that voice and it was always usually met with arguing from the monkey mind from the ego self.   [00:55:58] Yeah. So what I would do is pick a point on the hiking trail of like that tree up there.   [00:56:05] Okay. Let's just walk up to that tree where ego self mind would you be willing to just be quiet long enough we'll go up there and see what comes through I wouldn't take five steps. Run run run run run run run run run. Right here come back and I'd stop and I'd say wait a minute we had an agreement. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah yeah. Okay. All right. That tree just that tree. Okay. And then that tree turned into you know around that corner up there and then that turned into farther down the trail and then that turned into literally I could step on that hiking trail and the ego mind would go quiet and couldn't wait to hear from that still small voice. Yeah. And we'd go on for a long time and then sometimes it would want to question you know it's like Okay throw me a question water put about this or that should I write a book. Well you know and then and then.   [00:56:59] But then that voice would kick in and and I think it comes with an assurance and a piece and a flow you know just a you know that that's what's as you said well deep inside that little small voice problem is we always want to counter it with our monkey mind who is the alpha dog on the block. It's the one that wants to be in control. Yes. So we. Right. Right right right.   [00:57:27] And what I did again a visual here how can we create the audio part of this.   [00:57:34] So like if you like put your put your hand up like cup your hand up and like like you're gonna swat a fly that's below you on the desk OK you've got your hand you're ready. The fly is going to swing by. Boom you're gonna whack it right.   [00:57:50] So that's our ego mind and down here now be the little fly on the desk you know now down here is that little still small voice and it just whispers and it's really soft.   [00:58:06] And you know another point on that Julie is we have to be in quiet environments I think to hear it more and our world today. Sir dad on our world today is so full of noises everywhere. There's a television on and every waiting room and restaurant and airport and everywhere you go. And we can't be quiet.   [00:58:28] So once you get quiet you'll hear that voice more but what happens then is the hand that you've got cocked up here and ready to go whack it hits the.   [00:58:38] It knocks it back down and into its place. Because I'm the boss.   [00:58:44] So what I did is I just shifted roles now to where the little still small voice is the hand up above not ready to squash anything but where I brought that monkey mind into submission to where.   [00:59:01] Now when that still small voice speaks the role of the monkey mind is all okay.   [00:59:09] How do I do that.   [00:59:11] So when the little voice says write a book about the four rings then it's not argue we're not arguing there's no point counterpoint.   [00:59:20] We're not contradicting it. It's okay. Well I better watch program am I going to write it in word or Scrivener or you know it's well what's the first chapter going to be. How's the structure going to be the outline and you know that's where the arms start taking the baby steps that lead to the bigger steps that lead to the whole thing.   [00:59:38] You take start taking the actions and then along the way you stop and you listen well maybe that's not the right direction for this chapter. Oh what is. Oh okay. Got it. Off we go.   [00:59:49] Yeah.   [00:59:51] Yeah. It's a wonderful way to live.   [00:59:53] It is a wonderful way to live and see beautiful.   [00:59:58] You know you are asking to again I mean you have to make the shift up to these higher planes of being back to our little rings you have to get up to the golden turquoise ring because when you live from that perspective then you're just waiting for the next piece of instruction. Oh Fred had a great analogy story in a couple of his books and it's a really easy simple story but it's just like think about our life as a river.   [01:00:26] There's a point where we get in and there's a point when we get out and we're in a boat and we're given an oar.   [01:00:32] There's our choice and we float down the river and as he says so many times we want to paddle upstream.   [01:00:43] Or we want to drag the boat over to the bank and get out because there's a better River over on the other side. Right.   [01:00:49] If we could just get over there that's the river and I realized when I was narrating that story I just had to stop because it was like man that's how I lived my whole life. Yeah.   [01:01:02] Was paddling upstream all the time or cross currents are always fighting the flow. But when we just used the ore to gently bump us along the way and we just get out in the middle of the river and start flowing down the river. Oh there's a rock up there. Okay let's just move to the left a little bit.   [01:01:21] Got it.   [01:01:23] There's a nice flat spot of the river. Let's go over there and have a nice picnic lunch and just take a break.   [01:01:30] Got some rapids coming OK. We're gonna have some fun here right.   [01:01:33] Well let's go shoot the rapids.   [01:01:36] Life picks up it slows down. We have challenges in the way. Maybe there's an alligator in the river. We have to go around him. You don't have to go right toward him. Paddle over there and ask him how he's doing. You don't have to go forth with him right. Just paddle around. So it's a it's a beautiful analogy of how we just get into the flow and when you get into the flow. Life will take you where you're supposed to be just like the river will take you down to the to the place where you're going to get out.   [01:02:09] Life will get you there and it will all be good and well and fine I was just texting my mom because she keeps sending these texts and I keep hearing these things in the background. She she'll go through and she'll send ten at one time say her mom or my mom. Be sure you're talking to the right Mom. Yes totally. Oh my goodness. Thomas this was just the best. Thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. And I always asked my guests who do you think I should interview next on this podcast or who do you know who I should interview.   [01:02:50] Fred Dodson. OK my mentor. Absolutely fantastic. Oh.   [01:02:56] Eyes up and you know what time Thomas for people who want to connect with you online learn more about you. Where can they find you. You on your Web site and social media.   [01:03:06] Well thank you for that. So on Facebook we have a little podcast listeners group it's called subconscious mind mastery podcast listeners on Facebook and you can ask to join that group and we put up episode information and some behind the scenes cool stuff and that kind of thing. So there's that. And then just hop over to the podcast at subconscious mind mastery on iTunes and Spotify and Stitcher and all those good places where you can listen and my email is Thomas at subconscious mind mastering dot.com.   [01:03:39] Perfect. Well thank you again so much for being a guest on our show today.   [01:03:43] We are very appreciative that you would do this for us.   [01:03:46] Jill you are amazing and I love what you're doing. Thank you   [01:04:02] My dear friends. You don't know what an incredible huge huge huge blessing it is to this podcast when you write a glowing positive review for us. It truly helps us get the best experts on the show. 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This meditation will help you get into your souls energy, into your souls vibration. We start out by feeling the energy within our bodies and then begin to feel energy above our heads. This energy above your head is your souls true vibration, as much as we can feel it here on Earth. This is also called a state of high vibration, a blissed out state, theta state. It is a state of healing and health.   Use this meditation daily in the morning to set your energy, and come back to it at anytime throughout your day when you need to shift your energy, re-align with your higher-self, or simply when you need to bring some calm into your day.   Connect with Julie   Website www.jancius.com   Instagram www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/   Facebook www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/   YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   THANKS TO Julie Riddle of Riddle Road Photography Anne Goodrich Graphic Designs David Burr Podcast Editor   SHOW NOTES [00:00:05] Hello friends. Welcome to the Angels and Awakening podcast. I'm your host Julie Jancius. We're keeping the podcast really short today. It's just the meditation I was telling you about in Episodes 1 and 2. I'm doing this on purpose so that you can come back at any time. Listen to this podcast and get into a blissed out state or simply shift your energy   [00:00:30] If you can try to do this meditation every day so that you can go deeper and deeper into it.   [00:00:36] And so you can feel more and more this is your homework from Spirit.   [00:00:42] One more thing you'll need to be seated and in a place where you can close your eyes and be free from all distractions and responsibilities. It's best to have quiet if you can. Do not play this meditation or use this meditation in the car or while operating machinery or completing responsibilities where you need to focus. OK if you're in a place and time where you're free from all distractions. Please start by taking a seat. It could be in a chair on the couch or on the side of your bed. You want both of your feet on the floor and it's OK if you're wearing shoes. You'll also want to sit up tall and upright with good posture and with the gaze of your eyes looking directly ahead in front of you. As we do this meditation. I want you to continue to breathe deeply in and out. Now close your eyes and start by taking too deep inhales and too deep exhales.   [00:02:06] Now I want you to imagine that out of the bottom of your feet the soles of your feet are these large roots that go down from your body into the earth. These roots go down far and wide   [00:02:21] As if you were a tree and those roots are anchoring you to the ground. Feel those roots as they go down through the soil. Past the rocks and the earth. Down to a deep reservoir of water. Those roots begin to tangle with beautiful earth energy. Feel as those tingles come up those roots and start to tingle at the tip of your toes. I want you to allow those tingles to crawl up your feet. Around your ankles. Up over your calves and shins. Feel those tingles at your knees. Take a moment and let them crawl up your thighs your hamstrings. All the way up to the sides of your hips. Now bring that yummy tingly energy to the base of your spine and the base of your stomach. Allow those tingles to crawl up the spine and the stomach until they reach your heart. Feel those tingles as they surround the outside of your heart and as they fill the inside of your heart. And as they do your body comes into a gentle state of ease.   [00:04:12] Take a moment and tune into your body. Notice as your head melts into your shoulders. And how your shoulders soften and relax   [00:04:29] Feel the energy in your arms and in your hands as they melt into your lap.   [00:04:38] Feel your legs and your feet as they relax into the floor.   [00:04:47] Your body is now in a complete state of ease. Return your attention to your heart. Feeling the tingles that both surround and fill your heart. Let these tingles climb up into your shoulders   [00:05:13] Into your neck. Then let them fill your entire head. Front. To back. Side to side. Top. To bottom   [00:05:30] From here. You can feel this yummy tingly energy from head to toe.   [00:05:41] This is the set point to vibration within your body. We can take this one step further by feeling the tingles in our heads letting them crawl up through our hair follicles. And feeling that tingly energy two inches or even higher off the tops of our heads.   [00:06:08] Now this energy above your head might feel different. It might feel like it's lifting you upward.   [00:06:15] It might feel spacious or expansive. That's all normal. I want you to stay in this state for a few moments. You're going to hear silence as here in this state. Then I'll come back to end this meditation. But what I want you to do right now is keep your attention on this tingly vibration above your head for as long as you can.   [00:06:40] If your mind wanders and you catch it just to redirect your attention to the tingles above your head. OK do this now   [00:07:50] One more time. Bring your attention back to the tingly energy that sits two inches or higher above the top of your head.   [00:07:59] What did you feel the last few moments. Did you feel like the energy was lifting you upward. Did you feel the vast amount of space and expansiveness and this energy. Did you feel love joy peace bliss and ease take a moment to recount to yourself what you felt   [00:08:30] Now friends. Take a deep breath with me. This meditation is the type of homework you want to do the more you do this meditation the more you will hold this vibration until you get to the point where one day you don't need the meditation anymore. You'll know when that time comes because you'll be able to say or think I want to feel the tingles above my head and then you will and then you can go about your day doing your work while you live in that vibration   [00:09:17] Until till then continue to use this meditation every morning and come back to it whenever you need to shift your energy throughout your day one more time. Deep breath in deep breath out   [00:09:35] If you haven't been told yet today you are so beautiful you are a radiant soul with great purpose here and you are so loved.   [00:09:47] Your angels love you your spirit team loves you and I love you. Thank you for spending some time with me. Go on to have a magnificent rest of your day as your spirit team send you peace bless. 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Overview: You are a human being. The human-ness is your body, the being-ness is your soul. Both parts of you are energy with thought. Part of your free will here on Earth is choosing to live from your soul or from your body. It is the difference between choosing fear, stress, anxiety, depression, sadness OR joy, love, peace, bliss and ease. This is the episode you need to understand who and what you truly are, and how to make lasting changes that lead to a life you love!   Connect with Julie Website:  www.jancius.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelpodcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/angelpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLOL5Dgsssv7A4C7SLvyqWg?view_as=subscriber   Show Notes: Hi Friends! Welcome back to the second episode of ANGELS and AWAKENING. Just a reminder, episodes 1 & 2 are from the same conversation, but split into two parts. Episode 1 was my back story, you got to know more about me AND how I realized that I had spiritual gifts when I started hearing from my dad, before I ever knew he had passed away and was on the Other Side. In episode 1, we also talked about energy and how energy works.   I’m so EXCITED about today’s episode because THIS is THE episode YOU need to be able to see your life differently. Friends, this episode is a collection of what the Angels have shown me throughout all of my sessions. This is a collection of the guidance I’ve received from my Angels, the guidance that I’ve brought through for my clients from their Angels and your Angels want me to share this information with you today. And when I write my first book, which I know is manifesting right now, what I’m sharing with you today on this podcast will be the first few chapters of that book — I guess I should tell you, it’s all copyrighted.   Ok, let’s jump right in.   Let’s start with you. Have you ever stopped to think about WHAT are you. Well, first and foremost, you are a soul . . . But What is your soul?   Spirit shows me two things about the soul. First, the soul is energy — it has a vibration. Second, the soul has consciousness. Consciousness is another word for “thought”. We talked a bit about this in episode 1, but I want to break it down for you further and string together all the missing pieces so you have a more clear understanding.   You’ll often hear me use the phrase “high vibration”. Friends, when I use this term, I’m NOT talking about smoking weed, I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT GETTING HIGH — I Am talking about accessing the vibration of your soul. Your soul stems from LOVE, JOY, PEACE, BLISS, EASE AND GRACE. On the other side, there is no ego-ic mind, there are no low vibrations — on the other side there are only high vibrations — with God being the highest vibration that is.   The Angels give me a metaphor for how our souls are connected to God. Think about it this way — first, imagine all of the water here on Earth, all of the oceans, lakes, rivers, etc. — that IS the metaphor for God. Now imagine taking all of that water and breaking ALL of it up into individual droplets. How many droplets would there be? Infinite, right? Well, the Angels say that the droplets are our souls, but collectively, all together we are always one with the bigger ocean WHICH is God. And with all other droplets — which are all living things. What does this mean? It means that as a human being you look at yourself as separate from everything else. You believe you separate from your family members. You are separate from your colleagues at work. You are separate from your friends. You see you as YOU — and them as THEM. But that’s not the way it is. At the most finite level, everything is connected and everything is one. And that place where everything is still one with God — that is the highest vibration that is. Your soul is of the highest vibration that is, because it is a piece of God — you are ONE WITH the whole. You are ONE with All That Is. And because that IS who you are — The vibration of your soul is always with you, even while you’re here on earth — you just have to learn to feel and access it again.   To really grasp this, go deeper. You have to realize you are not your body. You are a soul. And BECAUSE YOUR SOUL IS ULTIMATELY WHO AND WHAT YOU TRULY ARE, the high VIBRATION of your soul CAN NEVER LEAVE YOU. IT CAN NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU. IT IS YOU. YOU ARE IT.   Now, PEOPLE HAVE ALL SORTS OF NAMES FOR this high vibration. But really, it’s all the same thing! It’s the highest vibration that is — it is God energy. Some people call this high vibration a “Blissed Out State”, the Now, presence or even Heaven on Earth. And I believe this is what people are referring to when they talk about Zen or Enlightenment. I guess we’ll find out for sure in the future as we interview people who are far more expert than me on this podcast.   Here’s what the Angels want you to know. The body hold vibrations of stress, anxiety, frustration, worry — and on, and on, and on — you don’t have to live your life constantly in those vibrations any more. You can live your daily life from the vibration of your soul — and it is SOOOOO Yummy and its so incredible to do so — that I don’t even have the words to describe it. This is part of the process of spiritual awakening — and it is a process for most people.   Friends, this is a process that I started a long time ago, but really came into more deeply four years ago. I’m never going to present myself as “holier than thou” to you — I want you to see my shortcoming and my downfalls throughout this podcast, because what the Angels show me is the more I share stories with you where I messed up and got it wrong, and the more I share the ego-ic thoughts that I have now (or have had in the past) with you — the more quickly YOU will grow and be able to make changes in your own life. So if you see me making a fool of myself on this podcast at times, that’s why! I’m your guinnea pig and you’re Welcome!   So when I talk about living in the vibration of your soul, I want you to understand that it can take time to achieve this state of being. It doesn’t have to — some people come into instantaneously, but that is rare. So, I want you to know that I don’t live in the state of high vibration 24-7 — at first I could only hold this state of being for 10 minutes, then I worked my way to an hour, when I held this state for 3 hours the first time — I called my friend to tell her how excited I was to accomplish this! — now, I can hold a state of high vibration for about 8 hours a day and I know that will continue to grow.   What the Angels show me is that this new way of living is something that everyone will come into — this state of being is pure peace and pure love — remember it is God energy — and when we live from God energy, we cannot hurt ourselves, we cannot do mean things to one another, we cannot harm the earth. If we all look at this as our work in life, to live from the vibration of the soul — from pure love and peace — and to control our ego-ic thoughts and live more from the intuitive thought system — well when we ALL learn to do this ourselves, the world will come into a place of peace — and that’s what we’re all working towards — peace on Earth.   There was one spiritual teacher that I worked with and we both believe in what I just said, but she believed that people should learn to hold the vibration 24-7 no matter what. This woman told me that she could not hold the vibration around her family, so she left her family to be reclusive — and she encouraged others to do so as well. That’s so NOT true and that’s so damaging to people — I’m telling you this story, so that no one corrupts you into believing this. Because again, this is not true at all.   What the Angels show me is that the work you and I are doing right now, is about learning how to live in this vibration, WHILE GOING about our daily lives. In episode 1, when I said humanity got meditation wrong, this is what I meant. What Spirit shows me is that you don’t have to be seated in LOTUS pose with your eyes closed to be in a meditative state. And I’m using the terms meditative state and high vibration interchangeably. I go about my daily activities in a meditative state — with my eyes open — working, doing the dishes, doing the laundry, spending time with my daughter (ok, being a parent is probably the biggest place where I start to lose hold of that vibration, but I’m working on it friends) but you get what I’m trying to say here. When I talk about holding the vibration, I mean holding the vibration while you’re living and going about your day. Meditation is a WONDERFUL tool to use when you’re learning to feel high-vibration for the first time; it’s a great tool to go deeper into your practice; its also a great tool for what I call “down days” — we all have days where we are feeling more sad than normal — on those days, meditation can help you go into the feelings, feel them, and release them — sometimes it can be a useful tool to shift your energy. So I don’t want you to think I’m knocking meditation in any way — it’s incredibly useful and I personal use it every day — but again, seated meditation itself is not the goal — seated meditation is a tool — the goal is to live in a meditative state while functioning in your daily life. If you want to try the meditation that I first used to get into a high vibration, go to Episode 3. The entire episode IS the mediation — I did this on purpose so that you can come back to it at anytime and not have to search through an hour long episode to find it.   Also, I want to explore different meditations with you on this podcast throughout the year. So each month, I hope to put up a new meditation, led by different meditation teachers — I’m going to separate the mediation from my interviews with the teachers so that you can easily find and access the meditations. So I hope that’s helpful to you.   Well, we’ve covered a lot of ground in a short period of time. I’m hoping this all makes sense — please, always email me if it doesn’t and I’ll clarify by answering your questions in future podcast episodes.   We started out by talking about your soul. I told you the soul is energy and it has thought. We already talked about the energy vibration piece. The other part of your soul is consciousness. Here’s what your Angels need you to KNOW about this. YOU ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS. We talked a bit about this in episode 1, but I want to give you the full details now. Again, most humans just believe they just “THINK”. They don’t understand that they think from two DIFFERENT thought systems. Look at it this way. When someone is going through a rough time in their life, why do we tell them to listen to their heart? To listen to their Soul? To listen to their GUT? IF we only had one thought system, we’d just tell them to go think for a while but we don’t do that.  We tell people to listen to their heart, gut and intuition BECAUSE IT’S A DIFFERENT THOUGHT SYSTEM THAN THE ONE WERE USED TO Using— the one THAT CHATS AWAY AT US ALL DAY LONG. We say that because deep down we KNOW there are two thought systems within us.   I believe I read that scientists have found where these two thought systems reside within the brain (and I’d love to interview scientist or experts in this arena on this podcast to learn more on that later on — so please email me if you know someone I should talk to); however, the energy for these thought systems is in two different parts of the body.   First, you have the egoic mind — the energy for this thought system is in your head. Again, these are the thoughts that you have all day long. It’s like a constant conversation inside of your head. It might go something like this — “Today, I have to drop my daughter off a school, go get my allergy shot, and then go to the grocery story. And when I’m at the grocery store, I can’t forget to pick up salad. But oh, when I’m there, what if I run into Sally? Ugh, I always see her there and I don’t want to see her today. She’s always telling me that I should wear bright colors and stop wearing black so much. Who does she think she is, the fashion police? It drives me absolutely CRAZY!!! AAAAAnd I can never think of a response in the moment. When every anyone says anything to me that I don’t like, I just freeze up and I can’t say anything — but then WHAT I SHOULD”VE SAID always comes to me days after the conversation? Why does this always happen to me? Why can’t I just be quick enough to respond in the moment?” You see how these thoughts just spiraled from one to the next — You started out thinking about what you had to accomplish that day and you ended up thinking about the woman you can’t stand to see. And how many times in there did you just beat yourself up? We do this to ourselves ALL - DAY - LONG.   How are you supposed to feel GOOD, when inside your head, you’re beating yourself up all day long? You can’t.   Your head is like a train station with trains of thought that never cease. Everyone on Earth has this. This is what I call the Ego-ic Mind. But the ego-ic mind doesn’t have to be “bad”, we don’t have to label it. The truth is that the ego-ic mind is only “bad” when we let IT control US. Like I said before, if we can train ourselves to use the ego-ic mind as a tool, then it becomes a wonderful thing we can use to create. On the Other Side, our souls don’t have egoic thought. Don’t get me wrong, your Soul has thought, you think on the Other side, but you think from the intuition, not the egoic mind.   So, what is the intuitive thought system? Well, the energy of the intuition is in your HEART and GUT. It’s not loud and constantly bombarding you like the egoic mind. Instead the intuition is quiet, soft, and it whispers to you — it is both the voice of your soul, and it is also a direct connection to your Spirit Team on the Other Side. It is THE tool that your Angels, Guides and Loved Ones use to communicate with you every day — it’s HOW they talk to you.   Friends, you need to know that every soul that choose to come here to Earth, has a team/BOARD/or Committee-per say on the Other Side that will help guide, direct and protect them in their journey here on Earth. They call it your Spirit Team. You, yes you have a Spirit Team. Everyone does. It’s made up of God energy, Angels, Guides and Loved Ones on the Other Side. My gift is connecting with your Spirit Team and bring through their messages for you. But the truth of the matter is that you don’t need me, or anyone else to connect with your loved ones and Angels on the Other Side. You can learn to do this for yourself.   This is how it works. When mediums, intuitives, angel readers, etc — when we connect with the other side and hear spirit. It doesn’t sound like someone else’s voice. It’s not like we have a radio antenna attached to the top of our heads, and when you’re grandpa wants to come through, it sounds like him paging and talking on the overhead speakers at the grocery store saying — “Attention Julie: I want to speak to my grand-daughter now. Can you bring through these messages to her.” It doesn’t sound like that — When spirit wants to come through to anyone, they use the persons intuition. Look at it this way. What are your thoughts. What do they sound like? The thoughts you hear every day sound like your own internal dialogue — that’s your thoughts. Now here’s where you have to learn the difference between your ego-ic thoughts and intuitive thoughts — when you hear your internal dialogue coming from your ego-ic mind the thoughts are more pushy, loud, aggressive and mean. But when you hear your internal dialogue that comes from your intuitive mind — its softer, more of a whisper, it doesn’t push you, it’s just there reminding you — allowing you to take information they're gifting you or not. Now, when spirit comes through it sounds like your own internal dialogue from your intuition — those soft whispers.  And you can learn to play with this and develop this for yourself — and when you do, you’ll learn how to bring through your messages for yourself.   A lot of people ask me, “What are the craziest messages that you’ve brought through?”   One of my favorites was actually the second Angel Message I ever brought through — it WAS for a FAMILY member. Spirit knew my family would be skeptical so they decided to give some BIG validation — for both of us. Well this family member put me on the spot as I was leaving her house and said, “Ok, what does my Spirit Team have to say to me?” So I tapped in and saw her dad. Her dad said, “Tell her the Cubs are going to win the World Series, but it will come down to a lesson in faith for Chicagoland.” Ok, friends. Now, this was fall 2016 — three or four series out from the Cubs actually winning — and if any of you followed that series, you know that statement is DEAD on because, it DID end up coming down to a lesson in faith for Chicagoland. But at the time my ego-ic mind was constantly getting in the way — I thought, “Oh my word, there IS NO WAY the Cubs are ever going to win the World Series. Julie, what the what did you just let come out of your mouth? Now no one is going to believe what is really happening to you. You mine as well just quit this Angel Message stuff right now.” Little did I know that, this message was meant to be validation for me as well. I don’t watch any sports — but I kept an eye on the Cubs that year. In the World Series (and the series before the World Series) that year, the Cubs were behind, and you could feel Chicagoland losing faith. Well, the Cubs pulled both of those wins out of no where in the final moments of the final games. Spirit even stepped in, in the last game I believe, with a huge rain delay — and that rain delay shifted the energy — it gave everyone the hope and faith they needed — and that’s when the Cubs turned it around. What I loved so much about that message — is the twist Spirit put on it — They said “it would come down to a lesson in faith for Chicagoland.” And that’s exactly what happened. Spirit often puts these subtle validating twists in the messages so that you know in your heart that it’s them.   Sometimes people ask me if Spirit comes through in public. The answer to that is YES. I was at subway the first time that happened. I was directing a young man on the ingredients I wanted in my sandwich and his dad wouldn’t leave me alone. So I asked him if his dad had passed. He said yes. And I told him his dad says that he’s on the other side, he’s in Heaven, he’s okay and that he’s so proud of him. Sometimes spirit has a lot more to say and so I’ll ask the person if they’d like to come for a free session later on so we can talk in more detail. The first time that happened, I was at TJ Maxx — I was holding too much stuff and the woman at the number station asked if she could help carry my items back to a fitting room. As we were walking back together, her mom and dad starting coming through. When I say they're coming through, I mean I can feel their energy presence and hear thoughts that they’re trying to communicate through me. They give me a feeling, a nudge, to share their presence with the person. I told this woman that her mom and dad were coming through, but knew that she had a long day at work and would make it through if we brought through all her parents had to say at the time, so I gave her a gift card and asked her to come for a free session.   Another one of my favorite stories just happened in fall 2018. My daughter was getting into American Girl doll stuff — which is incredibly expensive, for something she will probably only use for a year — I ended up finding a woman who was selling her collection on the local Facebook mommies group. It was a half hour drive from my house, which is longer than I’d normally go, but for my daughter, anything! Right? So, I was getting ready to go pick up this American Girl Doll stuff and Spirit said, “Take more money because she has more stuff than she listed, and take two gift cards — one is for her and one is for her friend.” I always do what Spirit says, Okay, so I get out of the car, I knock on the door — this woman answers and low and behold she has all of these extra American Girl doll toys that she didn’t post on Facebook — just like spirit said. So I start telling her about what I do and how spirit asked me to bring these gift cards for her and her friend. This woman stops me and says, “You’re not Julie from Wheaton, are you?” Say what now? Friends, I was SO shocked, my mouth was on the floor. So I tell her, “Yes, yes, I am.” She goes, “I’ve got your business card in my pocket?” She proceeds to reach down into her pocket and pull out my business card to show me. She goes, “See?” THEN she proceeds to tell me that the friend she was going to come to the session with IS IN THE BASEMENT.   She says, “My friend and I were going to come see you together next week — My friend ACTUALLY gave you a call and left a message, then you called her back AND WE WERE JUST ABOUT TO CALL YOU.” She said, “My friends in the basement right now. Do you want to meet her?” Both of our mouths dropped. So of course I went in to meet the friend — and she starts laughing! She says, “I didn’t know you made house calls!”   That’s what I love about Spirits messages — there is always a twist on the message that is so validating — in this message it was that spirit said to bring two gift cards, one for her and one for her friend — and then her friend was there!   When things like this happen, I used to say, “Oh, that’s so crazy!” But I’ve learned, it’s not crazy, it’s just spirit. This is how they work. This is how they spirit communicates with us and validates for us. Sometimes it’s subtle, sometimes its something that you’ve been thinking a lot about — but these messages, no matter how big or small, they validate for us and create great energetic shifts in our lives.   Let’s go back to the questions and answers. A lot of people want to know if everyone has a spiritual gift and how you find out what yours is.   First, Yes! Everyone does have a spiritual gift, but like we talked about before, everyones gift is different — some people can see aura colors, some people can speak in tounge, we see some children who have extraordinary talent at a young age like painting or playing the piano proficiently at age 5 — and see these kids as Savants, but it’s their gift. Also, everyone has free will and the choice to develop their spiritual gift or not. If you want to learn what your spiritual gift is you have to be fully open to it. You can’t just say, “Oh, I’m open to it,” but really feel scared in your heart. You have to be all in.   Now if you have the gift of communicating with the Other Side in some way, you’ll end up hearing from them in one of four ways. Spirit can communicate through our thoughts — and like we talked about before, you might hear thoughts, and those thoughts aren’t you, it's really them. Spirit can show you mini day dreams or pictures — sometimes it looks like a mini movie reel — but whats really happening is they’re showing you something. You could have a knowingness. When this happens a lot of times Spirit will just open your mouth and you’ll be talking but your mind isn’t even registering it, or processing it yet, what’s happening there is spirit is talking through you. Other times, you’ll feel actual sensations in your body. A lot of times when clients have bad anxiety issues, as soon as they step through my door, my heart starts racing and pounding like its beating out of my chest — that’s not me, because my body doesn’t typically act that way — that’s Spirit communicating the anxiety issue and saying there’s something there they need to talk about with that person.   Okay, moving onto the next topic here. The question is: What do you mean when you say emotional clearing?   So remember when I told you that my spiritual gift is different in that Spirit works through me to help you remove emotional pain and baggage in your energy field. Here’s what I mean by that. First, let’s start with your energy field. The Angels say that if there were a metaphor for what your soul looks like to them, it would be this. Imagine the sun. Huge, vibrant, radiant, with rays of light that stream millions of miles all the way to warm us here on Earth, right? Well, imagine that you take the sun and make is pure white light — because white is the highest color vibration that is — and then shrink that sun down to the size of a cantaloupe of grapefruit. Now put it in the middle of your body, a little below your heart. That is what the soul looks like to Spirit. Now the soul is energy that vibrates, and it has energy that comes off of it, just like the suns rays stream off of it and create a field of energy around the sun. In that same way, these rays of light energy beam out from your soul in every direction creating energy around your body that people have termed the “auric field”. So you have the auric field, your body, your ego-ic mind, and your soul. All different parts with different functions.   I’m going to explain what happens in your auric field — but first you have to know this. We know two things about God from the Bible right? God is a creator. God created everything. But God is also being. We know this from the story in the Bible when man goes to God and asks, “What is your name?” God says, “I AM.” So we know that God creates and God just is — God lives in being-ness. Those are two of the many ways that we were made in the likeness and image of God, because we too are creators and beings.   So back to the function of your auric field — the auric field sorts out all of the different options of what you have to create and co-create and manifest in your life. All of these different options lie in your auric field and as you manifest them into being, they move from the outer edges of your auric field closer-and-closer into your body, until there they are in your body — your body is physical — and that’s where the things you create in your life come into being. So they move from your auric field into your body and then show up in your life. Now, somethings are easier to manifest than others, but why is that so? It’s because as we go through experiences in our lives, they either help or hurt our creation process.   So when a child grows up in a home where their parents are constantly criticizing them — telling them you’re not good enough, you're stupid, how could you do that? When they grow up around that negativity all their lives, that gets stored in their auric field as well. Now, when that child goes to create a bright, beautiful future for themselves, they’re constantly going to run up against this blockage of hearing their parents voices in their head — and their going to think they’re not good enough — most of this is at a very subliminal level. The person might be really ambitious, working hard to prove themselves, but deep down on the inside, they’re blocking their own success, because they still have this energy of their parents, or what someone said to them or what they went through in the past — they still have this junk in their auric field and it’s blocking them from where they want to be. When I use the term emotional clearing — that’s what I’m talking about. In my sessions, the Angels and Spirit work through me to help people clear that junk out so that the person can more clearly see themselves and their path — and the Angels help you remove the stuff that’s not serving you.   Another question people ask, is how did you end up reconciling your religious beliefs with your spiritual gifts?   That’s a great question. I’ve always been a very stubborn, strong willed person — I don’t like to take anyones “word for it” — I don’t like it when other people or other systems try to think for me or tell me that I should believe them because they say that’s the way it is — I want to experience things for myself. I want to know with every ounce of my being that something is true and real. So that’s what I do — and that’s what I want you to do too.   Don’t take my word for it. Do the meditation in episode 3 and feel what high vibration feels like for yourself. Feel the immense amount of love, joy, peace, bliss, ease and grace that surround you. If developing your spiritual gifts is too scary too you, that’s okay, you don’t have to. But if it’s something that calls to you, if its a longing that you feel in your heart — then do it. Experience it for yourself. It doesn’t mean you have to do that work for a living. You can develop your spiritual gifts just for YOU to use in YOUR OWN life.   So back to the question, how did I reconcile my religious beliefs with my spiritual gifts? I threw out all of the dogma. For thousands of years, humans have been taking what spiritual people and spiritual texts have said and making it all about the words, but here’s the deal folks. It’s not about the words. None of its about the words. It’s about living your human life from your soul self — not just for 10 minutes or an hour each day in meditation. But living your day, attending to your responsibilities throughout your day, while being in a meditative, high-vibrational state. ALL OF THIS is about living from your soul and not your body. And in order for you to do that, you have to stop thinking as much and learn how to feel again. If you’re saying to yourself, I feel — I’d challenge you on that. Most people realized at some point in their life that it is too painful to feel, so they either turned their feelings off or learned to sweep them under the rug — this is more of a subconscious thing that we’ll talk about in another episode.   But while we’re on the topic of words — you need to know one more thing about this podcast. I will use the words “God,” “Universe,” and “Source,” interchangeably. Now, let’s talk about this for a second because some people don’t like this. People have all sorts of names for God — and they have really, really strong feelings about it. So which name is the right one? Well, there is no right one. AGAIN, we know from the Bible that when man went to God and asked, “What is your name?” God said, “I AM.” God didn’t say God. We gave that name to him/her along the way. You heard me right, I said HIM/HER. I don’t see God as one sex or another. That might not sit well with you — and I’m okay with that. I’m not here to tell you what you want to here, I’m here to share the info that I’m given — that’s all I can do. What the Angels show me is that while we humans sit here on Earth and fight about words — fighting about the name of God — it doesn’t CHANGE the way things are on the Other Side — the fact of the matter is this. The terms God, Universe, Source, I AM, Etc — they all fit. You can use any one you want because it’s all referring to the same thing — which is All That Is. So let’s stop debating that and let people use whatever term resonates most for them.   Here’s what you CAN DO! When you hear people use other terms, like “universe” or “source”, don’t get upset, don’t try to fight it. Instead, replace that word in your mind with whatever word you like to use most. That’s all.   Same for the word Heaven. I use the words Heaven and Other Side interchangeably. Mostly because when people say “Heaven” they think of one dimension, a realm or plane like Earth, but it’s not like that there, there are many realms and worlds within one. So, when I use these different terms, if you don’t like them just replace my words with whichever term resonates the most for you and move on — in other words replace my words with the words you like the best BECAUSE folks, we’re all talking about the same thing, and Spirit needs us to move past the debate of terminology, so that we can grow by seeing the bigger picture — which is how to take what we know, apply it to our lives, and start living in a more beautiful, loving, peace-filled way!!!     Next Question: Sometimes, people ask, what happens to those who do bad things here on Earth? How are they punished?   Well there isn’t a bad place on the other side, if that’s what you’re referring to. I’ve never tapped into a bad place on the other side. The Angels do talk about Karma — a lot of times in my sessions when my clients have loved ones on the other side that have hurt them in this life — their loved one on the other side will show me how they’ve gone through a life review and how they are so sorry for the hurt and the pain they caused on Earth.   And people are so funny. We think of a life review, as us in Heaven watching our life on a big screen — as if we were in a movie theatre . . . but it’s not like that at all. Spirit always says, what would be the point? We lived it like that already! No, when we go through a life review, we have to live out the experience again in a physical body, but were not in our own bodies, were in the bodies of the people we hurt. And we have to go through every experience where we caused pain and we have to feel that pain for ourselves. We experience ourselves and our actions from the body  and the mind OF the OTHER person and we feel for ourselves the way we hurt them, we experience the deep, deep pain it caused them — because it causes us to feel the exact same pain that they felt when it happened. That is how we work off a lot of our Karma on the other side. So it doesn’t pay off for us to hurt others, or lie, or cause negativity in the world — because we’re going to have to pay for it at sometime, if not here, then on the Other Side.   Next question, besides offering sessions, what do you do?   I started the company Chicago Energy Healing — and I work out of my house on weekdays while my husband and daughter are at school, but I also have an office in Naperville where I offer appointments on nights and weekends. Sometimes my sessions are in person, sometimes they are over the phone or Facetime. I feel very blessed to work with clients around the country. And they’d tell you, it doesn’t matter if you come in person or over the phone you receive the same experience and benefits either way. I also run some small groups, classes, workshops and parties. People have parties at their homes or businesses — a lot of boutiques — and they’ll have me come give angel messages to their guests. THOSE ARE ALWAYS A BLAST. I also teach Reiki and Chios Energy Healing classes and certify people in those healing modalities. And now, I’m producing this podcast and hope to put out a new episodes every week!!   I am so looking forward to interviewing experts on angels, consciousness, spiritual gifts — and spiritual topics in general on this podcast — I’m also looking forward to growing with you and getting to know you. I’d LOVE for you to participate in this podcast and there are so many ways that you can . . . If you want to record a session with me, we can do that, AND it might just air on this podcast. Right now I’m researching spiritual experts and experts within this community to interview on the podcast — so if you know if someone I should talk to, please email me that info!!! I also want to share your stories about angels, how your loved ones have come through to you, stories of miracles and stories of spiritual gifts on this podcast — if you have an amazing story that you’d like to share, please email me with that info too!    If you’d like to book a session you can do that on my website www.JANCIUS.com. That’s spelled J.A.N.C.I.U.S.com. And don’t worry, if you don’t want your session recorded for this podcast, that’s okay, we don’t have to do that — the website shows you how to book a private session or podcast session. I’m beginning to have a bit of a wait list, but don’t worry, we’ll get you in — please email me if you have any questions or need help booking.   I truly thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening. I probably spoke too much about myself in the first episode, but I want you to see that I am a real person. I’m no different than you. And I take the privilege of connecting with the other side very seriously. So THANK YOU for listening. Thank you for being here and allowing me to share this gift with you.    I’m excited for you to experience the meditation in episode 3 and here what your angels have to say about you in episode 4. Peace, bliss and many blessings to you dear friends.     

Hi Friends! Welcome to episode 1! I'm Julie Jancius & I'm an Angel Messenger. My gifts came to me when I started hearing from my dad a month before I even knew he had passed away. Just like a psychic medium, I connect you with your loved ones & Angels by seeing / hearing the messages they have for you. I don't use cards & I’m not really woo woo. In fact, I grew up going to Catholic School, wanting to be a nun!  Today, I’m your typical mom-next-door who just so happens to have a special gift! I can tell you first-hand there's nothing to be nervous about, I only connect with God energy and bring through positive, loving messages.  Loved ones come through in every session with information about where you're at in your life now, where you're blocking yourself, & what you need to know to get back on your path. Join us here every week as we explore big Spiritual questions, interview experts, & bring through Angel Messages. We’re so excited you’re here! Peace and bliss to you! Key words: Angels, Guides, Spiritual Awakening, Meditation, Meditate, Mindfulness,  Psychic Medium, Mediumship, God, Universe, Source, Angel Messages, Angel Messenger, Angel Readings, Ask an Angel, law of attraction, health, wellness, religion, Catholic, Christian, Church, zen, buddhism, gratitude, spirituality, peace, inner peace, bliss, joy, happiness, happy, spiritual, yoga, chakra, intuitive, intuition, soul.