Episode-115- TSP Rewind – Does Permaculture Lead to Anarchism




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Summary: Today is an episode of TSP Rewind, commercial free versions of past podcast episodes. Today’s episode was originally Episode-1649- Does Permaculture Lead to Anarchism and was first published on September 22nd, 2015. The following are the original show notes from that episode… Woh! What is up with that title. I know we have a lot of strong political views in Permaculture. And of all stripes, liberals, conservatives and a lot of libertarians. And many who have been in the movement a very long time are quite proud of what ever political stripe they have. So does this question make sense? I think that it does, and I think it leads many to start practicing anarchism without even knowing it or realizing it. Understand there are two real types of anarchism at the individual level. I call these philosophical and action based. Strangely you’d think the philosophical would come easier but we all do the action based stuff in degrees. Please understand these two definitions are no one’s but my own. Philosophical Anarchism is the declaring of yourself to be an anarchist and then making choices about thoughts, issues and actions based on that. Action Based Anarchism – is the ignoring or disobeying of authority so long as doing so does not violate the principle of non aggression. For instance here are some action based anarchist things many of us have done or would do if certain circumstances occurred… Dressing the way you want to vs. the way you are “supposed to” Marrying who ever you choose instead of having an arranged marriage Using an illegal substance, including a pain pill from your last prescription Driving over the speed limit when no danger is present to another by doing so Keeping 10 chickens when the code says you can only have four Feeding homeless people even if the law says you can’t Using violent force to stop one person from harming another.   Those are just a few examples. To be clear on what is not anarchism here are some things people think are anarchist that are not. Stealing your neighbors property. This violates non aggression and is not anarchism. Using violent force to harm another person because you simply don’t like them, again this violates non aggression. Damaging property with vandalism, arson, etc. Again this violates non aggression.   Join Me Today To Discuss… Some of Permaculture’s biggest names and their views on anarchism Bill Mollison – an anarchist that doesn’t know he is an anarchist David Holmgren – a self declared anarchist Geoff Lawton – teaches anarchism, though he would claim not to be an anarchist Joe Salatin – a self proclaimed libertarian who practices anarchy Toby Hemingway – a self described anarchist Byron Joel – a self described anarchist Ron Finely – no idea his politics but an anarchist in action Paul Wheaton – not an anarchist but damn sure practices anarchy Mark Sheppard – libertarian at a minimum, expert systems martial artist Why Permaculture leads to anarchy It leads to real solutions, often that are illegal but work Ethics based and concerned with “people care” Teaches the practice of currency creation and private banking It is a design science which causes you to question everything No room for bureaucracy, a tree doesn’t care about your title A meritocracy in other words those that get shit done succeed It is about rewilding humans to live with nature vs. opposing it Promotes community interdependence vs system and centralized dependence Focuses on real wealth above persevered wealth Creates wealth that is hard if not impossible to tax Leads naturally to commerce at a local level Can not be controlled, policed, slowed down or stopped by the oligarchy Final thoughts on what real freedom is and why morality is required for it   Resources for today’s show… Follow Life With Jack on Instagram TSP Facebook Group Jo[...]