Summary: <p>Stephen Dubner's conversation with the co-founder and longtime co-C.E.O. of the Carlyle Group, recorded for the <em>Freakonomics Radio</em> series “<a href="http://www.wnycstudios.org/freakonomics.com/ceos">The Secret Life of a C.E.O.</a>” (http://freakonomics.com/ceos).</p>
