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Jeff and Brent go through the 4 things photographers should consider when getting started in printing their own photos. How to Get Started With Printing Photos Really nothing like taking your own photo, printing it yourself, and hanging it on the wall.  To get started printing your own photos: Buy a good photo printer.  Doesn’t have to be expensive and we’ll tell you how. Buy name brand paper.  Make the process as easy as possible to start with. Buy name brand ink.  Yes, expensive, but again makes things easier to start out. Calibrate display and printer.  This is the hardest and most important part. X-Rite i1Basic Pro 2 calibration hardware helps, but it is a whopping $1,600.  Read on for more information. Episode Sponsor: Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are about photography then you really have to join us and have that experience. Tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com for only $437.  If you use the link from the show notes and offer code MPPodcast at checkout you will save an additional $30! Quick Aside – Don’t Use Late 2018 Adobe Software Updates! Many listeners have been asking if the updates to Lightroom and Photoshop released in October 2018 have been given the Photo Taco seal of approval.  They have not. Not only have there been a lot of lingering issues being discussed in the Adobe forums (https://feedback.photoshop.com) but my own experience has been very bad as I have processed family photos over the past couple of weeks. Photoshop CC 2019 version 20 (and 20.0.1) is extremely buggy.  I have had it crash many times per editing session when trying to use some of the advanced features like Shake Reduction and Select and Mask.  Worse than that is an issue where if you round-trip from Lightroom to Photoshop and Photoshop wasn’t already running, then your photo makes it into Photoshop but you can’t do anything with it.  Adobe has acknowledged the bug and has officially stated that the workaround is to manually launch Photoshop prior to round-tripping from Lightroom. The workaround does indeed seem to work. The issues are not limited to Mac or Windows, equal problems across both platforms.  Lightroom Classic CC 2019 seems to be working pretty well for me and there are fewer issues there that I wish I could say you were good to go on an upgrade there, but because you really want both of them in sync you don’t want to do one without the other. My recommendation is to stay with Photoshop CC 2018 and Lightroom Classic CC 2018 if having those tools run without any bumps is critical to your business.  The other great thing here is that if you are having issues you can actually downgrade to the 2018 version because the Lightroom catalog wasn’t updated this time.  Downgrading is as simple as using the Creative Cloud app and choosing the previous version. Love Photography, Hate Printing! I want to start off by explaining where I am at on photo printing to level-set the conversation here.  I love photography. I think it is going to be my hobby and passion for many years. I love getting out to shoot landscapes.  I love working with my wife to capture family and individual portraits. I even love post processing, maybe more than the capture part of the process.  What I really don’t like is printing photos. Let me explain. At this point,

In episode 4 of our season discussing various specialties in portrait photography, Erica and Connor sit down with Sharon McMahon, a total boss and dominating force in the world of newborn portraiture. Even listeners who think they are not interested in doing newborn work will find a wealth of incredible advice and information from this incredible business person and photographer. Sharon McMahon (pronounced McMann) has been a full time portrait photographer on the shores of Lake Superior for more than six years. She’s been named a Hot 100 Senior Grad Photography ICON multiple times, has been named one of the country’s 50 Most Inspiring Photographers, been voted best photographer in her region on five separate occasions, and runs a popular and profitable newborn studio that attracts clients from hundreds of miles away. She is a former high school teacher, and has four children of her own. Website: www.threeirishgirlsphotography.com Facebook: facebook.com/threeirishgirlsphotography Instagram: @3igphoto Other social: threeirishgirls on Pinterest * Tell us about your background in photography. Self-taught or college educated? * Tell us about your career as a newborn photographer. What drew you to newborns? * Newborn photography is a niche that takes some special equipment for being able to better pose babies, make them comfortable, etc. What sort of specialty items should a person looking into this type of portraiture consider getting? Do you have any particular items or brands you love or stay away from? * Backdrop stand * Stretchy fabric for background * Firm surface for baby – posing beanbag, Ikea ottoman, card table with foam * What safety advice can you share with those interested in photographing newborns? * Have an assistant to help you so you can stay with baby * Composite complex poses to ensure baby is always supported * Ensure heat pads and space heaters aren’t too hot occasionally * Always support baby’s head * Secure your equipment and backdrops * Do you have a preference for natural light versus constant light versus strobes? Why one over the other? * You can  use any of the three, but preference is toward strobes. Specifically Einstiens + PLM. * Usually placed with light source parallel with the backdrop and move baby around * Also works well with the light being a little off axis to create some shape. * What business advice do you have for someone interested in building a newborn photography business? * Build your skillset first and foremost & build solid portfolio * Develop sustainable pricing system * Develop brand & recognition * Exceptional experience * Exhibit at baby & child fairs * Structure giveaways to collect data * Network * Partner with others * Children’s Boutiques * Hospitals can be good but typically bring in less business * Do you partner with local companies in your area? If so, what kind of companies do you think are best for networking, referrals, and collaboration? * What pricing advice do you have for those interested in newborn photography? What are common package options? Do you prefer in person sales or all encompassing collections? * Know your Cost of Doing Business * Decide how much you want to make * Figure out how much time you are putting into a session * Be confident in yourself and your pricing * What do you think is THE most important tip for someone considering being a Newborn photographer? * In person mentoring with skilled newborn photographers * Can you recommend any newborn courses or workshops?

Jeff, Brian, and Brent talk through the camera settings, flash modifiers, and flash locations to take a portrait of a large group. Episode Sponsor Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are about photography then you really have to join us and have that experience. Tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com for only $437.  If you use the link from the show notes and offer code MPPodcast at checkout you will save an additional $30! How to Shoot Large Group Portraits When shooting very large groups (like 50-100) of people you have to get them on a hill or on stands so that you can put them 6-8 rows deep and still have the faces of all the people be seen.  Add flash with reflective umbrellas on light stands to the left and right of the group up high enough that shadows are not cast on the faces. Get the camera up high. Shoot with an aperture stopped down at f/8 to f/16, shutter at 1/160 (if using flash) and ISO 100. I love the question from Jessica Jean in the Facebook group that we are going to cover here at the top of the show because this has happened for me over the past 3 or 4 years now that I get contacted by somebody, usually a friend of mine, and they ask if there is any way I could help them with a photo of their extended family that is gathering for Thanksgiving or Christmas.   Usually the story is that the extended family hasn’t been all together in many years and so grandma wants to have a professional photo taken because she fears she may never get the chance to do that again.  In fact, that has happened for me again here in 2018. I did two shoots of large extended family groups the day after Thanksgiving. With one of them they had only a single member of the extended family that can’t make it and so we are going to have my oldest son stand in for him in the photo and they are going to have me photoshop his head in there. Jessica asked 3 questions in the Facebook group that I already provided by advice on there for how I approach lighting large groups, but let’s go through it here and I want to get your thoughts Brent and Brian. Jessica Jean: “Can you give me some advice? I’ve been hired to do my first indoor event where the client wants photos of each individual family and one large group (80 people). I have recently purchased a 24-70 and two soft boxes and two umbrellas for my speedlights. Here are my questions: What is best for this event? soft boxes or umbrellas? How far away should I have the lights from the smaller groups and for the gigantic group? What settings should my camera and speedlights be at Any other tips or tricks I’d love to hear!” How to get all the faces of a large group seen? Getting the people on risers AND the camera up high is the best way to have a shot at getting all of the faces in a very large group portrait to be seen. First off, not really about the lighting, but 80 people is a lot!  The last “large” group I shot was only 32 people. I don’t think I have ever shot a portrait with 80 people in it.  The challenge there is getting it so that you can see all 80 people in the photo. With 32 people I had to put them in 4 rows, having the first row sit down and then carefully positioning the people with the taller in the back and make it so that all of their bright smiling faces could be seen.   Even then, I had to be up higher than the people in order to really get them all to be seen in the photo.  I had a little hill I was standing on to make that work but bringing a ladder to stand on w...

Jeff is joined by Connor to talk about some simple ways to improving a portrait. Episode Resources: Suzy’s Facebook group post: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ImprovePhotographyListeners/permalink/1956774681291859/ Portrait Session Podcast – https://www.portraitsessionpodcast.com/ Photo Taco Podcast: AFMA Explained! – https://phototacopodcast.com/afma-explained/ Photo Taco Podcast: AFMA Revisited – https://phototacopodcast.com/afma-revisited/ Photo Taco Podcast: Back Button Focus – https://phototacopodcast.com/back-button-focus/ Episode Sponsors: Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are about photography then you really have to join us and have that experience. Early bird pricing just ended, but tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com for only $417 through November 30th and you can get $30 off by using coupon code MPPodcast! Portrait Instruction in Portrait Session Podcast In today’s episode we are going to do a little mini mentor session for a listener and Facebook group member Suzy Parish.  Before we do that, the discussion Connor and I are going to have today is just a tiny example of the kind of discussion and learning that happens over in the Portrait Session podcast. Connor, take just a moment and talk about this last season of Portrait Session. Connor: Portrait Session talks about portrait photography.  Had a over one hundred episodes prior to a change in 2017 when the podcast was moved to seasons.  The first season was all about developing portrait photography into a business. Getting setup as a business and making money.  The second season we are interviewing some expert photographers in various portrait photography niches, the pros and cons of them. You can find the Portrait Session podcast over at https://portraitsession.podcast.com Simple Ways to Improve Portraits Now let’s talk about the simple steps we can see to help Suzy with her portrait.  I wanted to do this in this episode because I haven’t heard much in the way of this exact thing shared in a podcast.  I mean in personal mentoring, or at something like the Create Photography Retreat you might have someone help you with the setup to get a good portrait, but I wanted to cover it here on the podcast because this is something I wish I had it when I was getting into portraits.   I totally remember being in exactly the same spot as Suzy.  Early on I was taking photos of my kids and trying my hand at landscapes.  As I learned more and made improvement it wasn’t long before I had friends and family asking me to take photos of their families.  I had no idea what I was doing and I got very average, maybe even below average portraits because I didn’t know some of the very basics.  Some simple things that can be done to make a massive difference. I’m not saying Suzy’s photo is below average like mine were.  But she is clearly frustrated, here is what she wrote in her post: “Please help!

Jeff and Brent talk about 6 common mistakes photographers make with artificial lighting Resources: * Petapixel: How to NOT Use a Reflective Umbrella – https://petapixel.com/2018/11/08/how-not-to-set-up-lighting-gear/ How to Get Good Exposure Indoors With a Flash – https://masterphotographypodcast.com/how-to-get-good-exposure-indoors-with-a-flash/ Expose to the right (ETTR) Uses and Techniques: https://masterphotographypodcast.com/ettr-uses-and-technique/ Episode Sponsors Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. Jenna Martin, well known underwater photographer, is going to help attendees get a chance to do that. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are about photography then you really have to join us and have that experience. Early bird pricing just ended, but tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com for only $417! Royal Canvas * Get high quality, reliable, and affordable canvas prints at https://www.royalcanvas.com/master for 40% off your first order! What’s New With Latitude Photography Podcast? In this episode we are going to open up a little and talk about the mistakes we have made with lighting.  Before we get started, Brent, take a moment and tell the listeners what you have coming up on the Latitude Podcast you host. Brent: I just released some great episodes with The PhotogAdventure guys and David Long. With David we talked about fall and winter shooting in New England. Coming up I have a great conversation with Alyce Bender and some of the recent adventures she’s been on, as well as those coming up. Then Richard Bernabe, one of the Create Photography Retreat presenters (actually, all these recent guests except for David will be there in Las Vegas and giving some type of presentation) and we talked about the Creative Principle. It was a deep dive in to what motivates us as landscape photographers and how to deal with a multitude of challenges that we face when we’re out there shooting and sometimes things just don’t work out the way we planned. But also, how to achieve more and do something new and useful in our work. Finally, I have an interview with photographer Timothy Allen scheduled for December. He operates the website humanplanet.com and he’s a travel/adventure/culture photographer who essentially specializes in the far reaches of the planet. If you can get to a destination in two or three airport connections it’s not far enough out for Timothy, it seems. I’m very much looking forward to that conversation. Photo Taco – What is Luminosity Masking Jeff: As you get this episode my latest Photo Taco episode will have just been released a few days earlier.  It is an episode I did with Greg Benz where we tried to answer the question “What is Luminosity Masking?” It was a lot of fun to talk to Greg, a real master who knows more about exposure blending and luminosity masking than I think I ever will.  If you have had that question then make sure you go over to https://phototacopodcast.com and check that one out.   6 Common Lighting Mistakes Brent,

Holiday Photography Tips and Flickr Jeff is joined by Connor to talk about their best tips for photographing holiday events and recent changes to Flickr. Resources: How to Get Good Exposure Indoors With a Flash – https://masterphotographypodcast.com/how-to-get-good-exposure-indoors-with-a-flash/ Expose to the right (ETTR) Uses and Techniques: https://masterphotographypodcast.com/ettr-uses-and-technique/ Why we’re changing Flickr free accounts: http://blog.flickr.net/en/2018/11/01/changing-flickr-free-accounts-1000-photos/ Episode Sponsors: Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are about photography then you really have to join us and have that experience. Early bird pricing just ended, but tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com for only $417.  Head over to createphotographyretreat.com and get your tickets today! Royal Canvas * Professional service to help photographers with canvas prints. * Premium canvas * 11 colors * Super fast shipping * Talk to a real person if you have any questions or issues * Give it a try at royalcanvas.com/master to get 40% off a single canvas print and 10% off poster or metal prints. * Email service@royalcanvas.com to get a sample Photo Taco Software Updates Status Before getting into things let me give a really quick Photo Taco status on the updates to software right now.  I am working on a status page over at phototacopodcast.com but until that is there let me just quickly give you my status for this as of mid-November 2018.   Adobe Products I continue to see bugs logged against both Photoshop and Lightroom for their October 2018 releases.  That is Photoshop CC 20 and Lightroom Classic CC 8.0. More issues with Photoshop than with Lightroom.  It isn’t affecting everyone of course, many have been using them both successfully on both Mac and Windows.  But there have been some extreme cases reported like many having to do a clean install of macOS Mojave before Lightroom would have normal performance.   As of this recording I recommend waiting a little longer to update if you rely on these tools for your business and can’t afford a couple of days of downtime. Operating Systems The Windows 10 October 2018 update was released and then pulled in early October after many users had their documents and photos deleted as part of the upgrade process.  It isn’t released as of the recording of this podcast. After it is, as with all updates, I recommend you hold off installing Windows 10 October 2018 until others have had a chance to use it with the Adobe tools.  This is a good reason to pay for Windows 10 Professional so that you can put off applying updates for at least 30 days after release. The macOS Mojave update has been available for several weeks now.  There were some early bumps but in general things seem to be pretty stable now.  A minor update patch has also been released with important security updates. The challenge is the Adobe products.  Adobe didn’t officially support Mojave until the release of their up...

Welcome to Latitude Photography Podcast. The show where we talk about all things related to landscape and travel photography. For full details and notes head on over to the main post: https://latitudephotographypodast.com

Brent hosts with three listeners that call in to talk about dealing with haze and cityscapes, contracts, and shooting with buddies. For all the show notes: https://masterphotographypodcast.com/call-in-show-listeners-join-with-their-questions

We are going to talk about personal projects. And by that I mean projects we do just for us. Either it’s purely for fun or to learn something new, or maybe you can call it a passion project of some sort or another, but the idea is that we are looking to simply inspire folks to maybe do their own type of project. Find the full show notes here: https://masterphotographypodcast.com/personal-projects-to-push-creativity-and-learning

Reflector or flash to fill in shadows on an outdoor portrait shoot? What’s new with Adobe Lightroom Classic CC 8.0 and Adobe Photoshop CC 20?  What are the basic tips for photographing indoor basketball? Episode Sponsor: Squarespace.  We are HUGE fans of squarespace.  Beautiful templates that are super easy to customize plus the 24×7 support makes Squarepace the perfect way to have a website and portfolio for your photos.  Go to squarspace.com/IMPROVE and use offer code IMPROVE to get 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Episode Resources: Bug Fixes in Lr CC 8.0: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/fixed-issues.html Lr CC 8.0 New Features: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html Ps CC 20.0 New Features: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/features.html Is it better to use reflector fill or flash? We had a great question come up in the Master Photography Facebook group that I wanted to start with today, trying to balance out the technical discussion we will have about the Adobe updates. Michael Cotton: “For on location outdoor senior or general portrait sessions do you prefer a reflector for fill light on the subject or an off camera softbox with a flash and why? Thanks and love the podcast.” Nick, you are known as Lord Page for your landscape photography, but you have also done a whole lot of portrait photography in your time.  While I have an opinion here for sure, I want to give you a chance to answer Michael’s question first. Nick: Reflectors can be nice in low light situations, but when reflecting bright light sources, they have some pretty big drawbacks.  Squinting client… tough to get the angle just right sometimes. For most situations I much prefer flash, but reflectors are nice when all your trying to do is get a little light in the eyes. Jeff:  I remember very well going through the various stages of photography.  At first I was saying to potential clients that I am a natural light photographer and justifying to them and myself that it made me more agile.  I didn’t have to worry about all of this lighting gear and we could really emphasize getting good poses, good composition, good smiles, etc.  The results were pretty good, I learned how to utilize the natural light really well and created good portraits that clients were very happy with, but I really knew it could be better with more fill light. So I graduated to using a reflector because flash was scary and reflectors were dirt cheap.  So I was still a natural light guy but now I was blinding my clients as we were shooting portraits.  Not a good thing when the models are putting the hard up in front of their face to shield their eyes from that massive amount of light. I finally took the plunge and set out into flash photography and just like you hear from pretty well any good portrait photography, I am a full convert to flash for good portraits – no matter the shooting environment indoors our outdoors. More control over the lighting and doesn’t make the models for the portrait feel like they have to cover their eyes because there is this very bright thing in the way.  Harder to make sure the reflector is properly reflecting the light.  Harder to have a helper work with you on holding the reflector just right as the sun moves.  Much less creative control over where you pose your model because you have to make sure you can get good reflection of the sunlig...

Jeff and Brent discuss the exposure "quadrangle", what it is, and why it goes beyond the traditional exposure triangle.

Erica and Brian join Jeff at the round table to discuss how to get good exposure indoors with a camera and a single flash plus 4 portrait backgrounds easily found in ANY neighborhood. Episode Sponsors: * Create Photography Retreat: Join many of the hosts of shows from the Master Photography Podcast Network at the March 28-30 Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas.  Early bird pricing just ended, but tickets are still a ridiculously low $417 if you head over to createphotographyretreat.com and order today! * Royal Canvas. Get high quality, reliable, and affordable canvas prints at https://www.royalcanvas.com/master for 40% off your first order! Episode Resources: Petapixel: 4 Portrait Locations You Can Find in Every Neigborhood – https://petapixel.com/2018/10/01/4-portrait-locations-you-can-find-in-any-neighborhood/ How to Get Good Exposure Indoors Here is what long time listener of the show asked in the Facebook group: Marcelo Soffiantini: I have been asked to photograph an indoor event along with other photographers and I have never shot indoors, unless it was for myself. I use a Yongnuo 560iv as a speedlight and my Nikon D500. I will be taking a lot of candid shots. Does anyone have any suggestions? This is not a last minute post, as I have seen many many times, people do on Facebook. I have plenty of time to prepare. Thanks in advance for any input. To get the best exposure indoors with a flash you start with a slow shutter speed, about 1/100, as open an aperture as possible like f/2.8, ISO 400, and flash power of 1/32.  Take a test shot and adjust your shutter speed to be slower from there to make things brighter and decrease to make things brighter. Jeff: Erica, you face these kinds of environments regularly and have a lot of equipment to help you get good exposure.  Let’s start off talking about this limiting the equipment to what was mentioned in the question. How you would approach getting a good exposure given your equipment is a camera and a single flash.  What would your initial settings be and walk through how you would adjust. Erica: Initial settings: low shutter speed to capture ambient light and allow the flash to blend with the environment (low shutter speed is different depending on the lens). Start with flash around mid-power (1/32ish) and adjust as needed to blend. Bounce flash using walls or ceiling or even a bounce card. Avoid pointing the flash directly at the subject if you can. Brian: MagSphere. Point it straight up then tilt it forward a notch. I first walk around and look at the lighting. Where is there natural light coming in? What are the windows like and is the lighting shining through harsh or soft? Harsh light looks cool as a spotlight in a b/w photo. As much as possible, especially at a wedding reception, try to have your flash complement the decor lighting and not over power it. Jeff: I clearly remember the first time I bounced flash off the ceiling for a very dimly lit reception, which is even more challenging than normal in the building because they want mood lighting and don’t turn on all the lights the building has to offer.  Anyway, my setup was nothing special. I had a single flash mounted in the hot shoe of my camera pointed straight up to the ceiling. I understood getting good exposure outdoors using aperture, shutter speed, and ISO, but I had almost no idea what I was doing with flash.  Frankly, I was super nervous to give it a try because I have seen really bad flash in photos my whole life. I have a ton of Christmas morning photos my parents have taken where the flash pretty much ruined the picture.

Chris Marquardt talks with Jeff about everything you need to know about digitizing prints and negatives/slides using scanners and cameras. See the full show notes for the episode at https://phototacopodcast.com/ultimate-guide-to-digitizing-prints-and-negatives/ 

Jeff Harmon is joined by Erica Kay and Brent Bergherm at the round table to go through 6 listener questions on the topics of business plans, print mediums, flash workflow, posing technique, and more!

Jeff Harmon is joined at the round table by Connor Hibbs to talk about exposing to the right (ETTR) as a technique to get the very best image quality possible out of your digital camera Episode Resources: Photo Taco: How To ETTR https://phototacopodcast.com/how-to-ettr/ Photo Taco: Metering Explained: https://phototacopodcast.com/metering-explained/ Photo Taco: Spot Metering Gotcha: https://phototacopodcast.com/spot-metering-gotcha/ Photo Taco: Histograms Explained!: https://phototacopodcast.com/histogram-explained/ Photographic Dynamic Range (Bill Claff’s site): http://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm Photo Taco: Photographic Dynamic Range: https://phototacopodcast.com/photographic-dynamic-range/ Episode Sponsors: Create Photography Retreat Join several hosts from the Master Photography Podcast network along with well known photographers like Nick Page and Greg Benz at the 3rd annual Create Photography Retreat in Las Vegas March 28-30. If you have never been around hundreds of photographers just as passionate as you are then you really have to join us and have that experience. Tickets are on sale over at createphotographyretreat.com and are only $387 through October 1st 2018.  Head over to createphotographyretreat.com and get your tickets today! Royal Canvas * Reliable, high quality canvas, at affordable prices * Premium canvas * Super fast shipping * Real customer service * royalcanvas.com/master to get 40% off * email service@royalcanvas.com to ask for a sample Introduction Welcome to the Master Photography Roundtable part of the Master Photography Podcast Network!  You are joined by thousands of photographers listening to this show who are all on the same journey to master their photography.  I am Jeff Harmon, the host for this episode and joining me at the roundtable is portrait photographer phenom Connor Hibbs. How are you Connor?   Right off the top here I have to brag about the other podcast does with Erica Kay on our network called Portrait Session.  The Portrait Session Podcast was profiled in an fstoppers.com article here in late September 2018 with a lot of praise for helping portrait photographers.  So Congratulations to you and Erica on getting some well deserved recognition for your show. So glad to have you part of the Master Photography team! Connor, besides adding to the conversation here wherever you want to jump in I also need your help to make sure I don’t dive too deep into the super technical.  Our topic is one that sounds very technical right off the bat with a 4 letter acronym and I could go off the rails so I need you to be the voice of reason and bring back if I go there. Today we are going to do the discussion we talked about a few episodes back and talk about expose to the right or ETTR technique.  Conner, based on previous discussions I think you and I may seem to be on different sides of this technique where it is something I swear by and you avoid so I am excited to kind of have this discussion because I think we represent the listeners well. Brief Explanation of ETTR To start things off I want to as briefly as I can explain what it means to expose to the right.