Summary: In order to advance, one must retreat. And in this case, back to January 2015. A conversation I had with Robert Holt that ended up on the cutting room floor. An embarrassing tale of frustration. Considering what has changed in the past 4 years, it's time to share. Ian This episode is sponsored by Book Depository Free international delivery on every purchase www.workshedpod.com/books For all the things and stuff: www.workshedpod.com
