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FYI - For Your Innovation

Summary: The FYI - For Your Innovation Podcast offers an intellectual discussion on recent developments across disruptive innovation—driven by research, news, controversies, companies, and technological breakthroughs. Hosted by ARK Invest analyst James Wang, ARK and guests provide a unique perspective on how to best understand disruptive innovation.

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 A Commitment to Bitcoin with Ric Edelman | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:32:36

Today on the podcast we are joined by Ric Edelman, the founder and chairman of Edelman Financial Engines and author of The Truth About Your Future. We also have our very own Cathie Wood join us for the conversation as we look at the current state of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, a decade after they emerged into the public imagination. We hear from Ric about his early theoretical and then practical interactions with bitcoin, his ongoing belief in the platform, its limitations and what its future may look like. Cathie also weighs in on ARK’s initial relationship with bitcoin and how cryptocurrencies informed the formation of the company. We discuss bitcoin’s strengths and weaknesses, who can most benefit from its unique characteristics at present and the advantages that would emerge with the involvement of the SEC. Tune in to hear this engaging discussion on what we believe to be one of the decade’s defining technologies! Key Points From This Episode: How Ric Edelman became involved in cryptocurrencies originally and his continuing philosophy. Cathie’s own ‘aha’ moment and early engagement with bitcoin in 2011. The uncertainty that still surrounds bitcoin’s and other cryptocurrencies’ future. Bitcoin’s transaction handicap and the other cryptocurrencies solving these problems. What this evolving conversation means to the work of financial advisors. Ric’s own approach to advising clients on investing in bitcoin. The reasons why Ric and his firm are not yet fully recommending bitcoin to average clients. Limitations and regulation in the cryptocurrency space and the practical effects of these. The power of educated and informed investors making sensible, individual decisions. Tokenization and what is next for bitcoin and the crypto sphere. Why Ric is really excited about the prospect of a ’40 Act product being released.   Tweetables: “The exposure to Bitcoin back in 2012 was still very new. It had only been invented a couple of years earlier, and there were more questions than answers about what it was.” — @ricedelman  “I made my first investment of bitcoin in early 2014, and I’ve been buying ever since. I’ve never sold any holding that I have in digital assets.” — @ricedelman “Part of the problem is that Americans tend to be slow adapters, partly because we have the strongest currency in the world, because we have the strongest economy in the world, the most stable financial structure in the world.” — @ricedelman

 Steve Forbes on the Market, Policy, and the Evolution of Media | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:55:24

On the podcast today, we are joined by Steve Forbes, Chairman and Editor in Chief of Forbes Media Group. Together with ARK CEO and CIO Cathie Wood and ARK analyst James Wang, we have a fascinating chat with Steve on the market, the modern media landscape, and the trustworthiness of cryptocurrencies. The podcast starts off looking at the current economic climate, doom and gloom predictions, and why Steve has come out publicly with a relatively optimistic outlook. From there we naturally move into taxation, the market, and all the political issues connected to these topics. Steve gives us his views on the path of Forbes Media Group through the internet age. We hear about the philosophy that guided the company from its previous iteration as a purely print publication, into the online powerhouse we see today. We even broaden our conversation into a comparison of today’s popular music landscape. Lastly, we focus on cryptocurrencies, the concept of trustworthiness of Bitcoin, and some of Steve’s current and upcoming projects. Be sure not to miss this great episode!   Key Points From This Episode: Reasons that Steve is optimistic about the state of the economy and the stock market What Steve means when he talks about total output comments and consumer actions Negative yields and the real message we should be taking from them Imagining President Trump’s possible policy priorities, if re-elected Evaluating the state of the stock market right now and predictions around its future Under-valuation of the market and the fear around it currently The internet’s impact on the Forbes Media Group and their response Comparing popular music of today with previous generations How Forbes transitioned into a contributor model from the magazine format A preview of the current projects Steve has on his agenda Steve’s thoughts on the trustworthiness of cryptocurrencies.   Tweetables: “When everyone is depressed about something, they’re usually wrong. The only thing that does worry me is the trade situation.” — @SteveForbesCEO [0:01:38] “Bitcoin is what you might call a high-tech cry for help.” — @SteveForbesCEO [0:01:38]

 Tissue Dynamics with Professor Yaakov Nahmias | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:33:47

In this episode of the FYI—For Your Innovation podcast, we welcome Professor Yaakov Nahmias from the Hebrew University. Yaakov is an Israeli bioengineer and an award-winning, industry-leading expert in his fields, who has worked in 3D printing and cellular research for the majority of his career. This two-part conversation will cover his work at Tissue Dynamics in the field of drug discovery and the production of cost-effective cultured meat at Future Meat Technologies. In this first part, we explore how Professor Nahmias is helping to advance medical research, drug discovery, and production of new medicines. We hear about his ideas that led to the founding of his company, Tissue Dynamics, and some of the problems that the company aims to fix. Professor Nahmias does a great job of explaining the complex issues of drug discovery. We discuss technological advancements, such as smart organ-on-chip technology, that could allow us to reduce the time it takes to find new drugs. For this and more, tune in!   Key Points From This Episode: How Yaakov’s engineering background and philosophy led him to drug discovery The underlying climate that brought about the birth of Tissue Dynamics Reasons for the steep price increase of bringing a new drug to market How Yaakov has focused on trying to alleviate bottlenecks for drugs coming to market Technological advancements that have allowed progress in the field The smart organ-on-chip platform that Tissue Dynamics has built to track studies in real-time How Tissue Dynamics is interpreting the massive amounts of data it processes What Yaakov sees in the near future of health care and drug development   Tweetables: “It turns out that a lot of the things that we find in mice don’t really translate and there’s many reasons for that. One is that mice have very different genetics to humans.” — Yaakov Nahmias [0:03:48] “A few years more of organ-on-chip research needs to happen before very reliable models can be used to study human immunology. But it’s there and it is definitely right there at the cutting edge.” — Yaakov Nahmias [0:21:21]

 What are Disruptive Innovation Platforms? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:26:58

For today’s show we welcome Brett Winton, ARK’s Director of Research, to discuss his recent white paper titled Disruptive Innovation – Why Now? The main idea of the paper explores innovation today and how the convergence of five major innovation platforms compares to other innovation periods in our history. Brett details the five technologies that we have identified as transformative signposts today. To unpack just how exciting and unprecedented this is, we look at comparable innovation platforms, their criteria, and impact on our economy. We explore the importance of technologies evolving simultaneously and the exponential nature of stacked innovation platforms. Lastly, we discuss how innovation could impact investing and the different growth industries. Key Points From This Episode: The primary idea behind Brett’s paper and what it tries to explain The stack of five technologies that we see coming to bear impact on the world now Background on Brett’s methodology The somewhat surprising inclusion of energy storage on the list Gauging the possible economic impact of these five technologies What this means for investors looking to buy into these markets Why investing in these technologies is not as straightforward as it might appear Thoughts on the possible growth of the number of major, disruptive technologies   Tweetables: “What’s happening today is that there is a stacking of meaningful technologies, the likes of which we haven’t seen.” — @wintonARK [0:02:28] “You have to go back to the early 1900s to find an episode where you had several really meaningful technologies all coinciding to the degree that they have now.” — @wintonARK [0:03:06]

 Cerebras’ Wafer Scale Engine AI Chip with CEO Andrew Feldman | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:03:04

Andrew Feldman, co-founder and CEO of Cerebras, joins us this week to discuss the Wafer Scale Engine, or WSE, an AI chip that is 50 times larger than the largest chips produced by Nvidia and Intel. This radical design has raised a lot of eyebrows and it is already being heralded as the biggest breakthrough in semi-conductor technology in decades. Andrew helps us unpack why AI work needs chips this large, how Cerebras was able to leapfrog industry incumbents, and what why the Wafer Scale Engine is the ideal AI training accelerator. Join us on this podcast as we talk with Andrew about some of the biggest hurdles that his team encountered on this market shifting journey. Key Points From This Episode: A high-level description of the chip Cerebras has created and what makes it different. Why this size and level of the chip has eluded companies far larger than Cerebras. The path to the Wafer Scale Engine, starting with the founding of Cerebras. Understanding the system architecture of the Wafer Scale Engine. The relationship between Cerebras and TSMC, their fabrication partner. Choices that were ultimately made around size and particularly memory. Getting past the challenge of bottlenecks and bringing data onto a chip this size. Reasons startups like Cerebras are able to do things more cheaply than larger competitors. Examples of the power that this Wafer Scale Engine offers through its incredible flexibility Cerebras’ go-to-market strategy and Andrew’s thoughts on the size of the training market.   Tweetables: “Our guys are not afraid of invention and I think sometimes that’s not the incentive structure at large companies.” — @CerebrasSystems [0:07:01] “We set out to be extraordinarily ambitious and that was in the system design, that was in the chip design and architecture. That was at every stage of our thinking.” — @CerebrasSystems [0:14:13]

 The Vibrant Online Education Space with Aaron Nace | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:30:39

Today we hear from Aaron Nace, the founder of Phlearn, an online education startup focused on digital photography and image editing. Aaron was one of the first YouTube educators to help people get fluent with digital tools like Photoshop and Lightroom and founded his company to help amateurs grow their careers as full-time creatives. We talk about the market of online education why so much of it is focused on paid, more advanced instruction. Aaron explains why he believes in creating free content and the high reward of watching students go from aspiring to full-time professionals. We discuss why there are more important considerations than college qualifications when recruiting new employees and what he reckons is the secret to success in the online education space. He also answers questions about his toughest business decisions and what he envisions for the future of his company. Join us for another great episode! Key Points from This Episode: The reason for starting Phlearn and how the photography industry has changed How YouTube has evolved and the company’s migration from Vimeo to YouTube Free tutorials and transitioning from a free to a partially paid service Their philosophy behind creating free content and how it benefits everyone People becoming brands and how young people’s career path options have expanded The aspects that are more important than a college qualification What it takes to succeed as an online paid education platform The most difficult decision he has had to make and how he managed it The importance of first and foremost having a solid, good quality product Aiming to create a happy work environment where employees can build lifelong careers Tweetables: “We’re basically trying to help anyone out there who has a camera, which is just about everyone these days, make and take better images.” — @aknacer [0:02:31] “In my opinion, operating in a niche and doing that niche very well will most definitely set you apart.” — @aknacer [0:13:05]  

 Building Sustainable Global Trade with Matt Heider, CEO NautilusLabs | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:29:04

On this week’s episode, we are joined by Matt Heider, CEO of Nautilus Labs, to continue the series on looking at startups as a lens to learn about innovation. Nautilus Labs is a maritime tech company that aims to advance the efficiency of ocean commerce. Nautilus is building software solutions for global shipping companies in order to minimize fuel consumption, maximize operations, and optimize fleet performance. In doing so, Nautilus Labs helps ship owners and operators reduce greenhouse gas emissions and enable sustainable global trade. Investors in Nautilus include M12 (Microsoft’s venture fund), Root Ventures, Quiet Capital, Trail Mix Ventures, and Amplifier, amongst others, bringing Nautilus’ total funding raised to $14.5 Million and making it one of the most well-funded maritime startups. Ships transport around 90 percent of the world’s goods across the seas and waste a lot of fuel on poor decisions while doing so. Despite the significant impact of shipping on our daily life, it historically has been a poorly regulated industry, along with very little technological advancements, leading to inefficiencies and fuel waste. Not only is this environmentally destructive, but it also damages companies’ bottom line. Nautilus Labs wants to change that. Its technology platform for shipping companies provides predictive analytics and AI solutions to reduce fuel consumption and maximize ROI. Matt is here to chat with us about this very unique vertical in the SaaS space. If you would like to learn more about Nautilus Labs and the maritime industry, tune into this FYI podcast episode. Key Points From This Episode: What is Nautilus Labs and how Matt became involved The need for ships to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to enable sustainable global trade Why shipping has always been poorly regulated The path Nautilus Labs has taken to optimize fuel consumption What noon reporting is and why it is so inefficient Maritime—what venture capitalists had to learn about the industry How Nautilus uses artificial intelligence for fleet optimization The five segments of the global shipping market About Nautilus Labs’ past successes and future goals   Tweetables: “It is really hard to believe that shipping essentially operates with an email when it departs, an email every day, and an email when it arrives and that is the level of insight…”— @Matt_Heider [0:20:47]

 Analyzing the Data Center Business with Akram’s Razor (Part 2) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:45:36

Last week was Part 1 of our conversation with Akram’s Razor where he gave his account of how the crypto crash of 2018 impacted Nvidia and AMD. This week, Akram and James go through Nvidia’s data center business in depth and assess the growing competitive landscape for AI accelerators, from cloud and startup companies alike. Akram shares more about how he approached his research for his thesis on Nvidia and we get into a serious discussion about Google’s AI advantage and why he believes they are not making their TPU training chips freely available. We then debate Nvidia’s pricing for their data center boards and talk about their CEO, Jensen Huang, and his refreshing transparency and openness. Key Points from This Episode: The substantial market value that Nvidia lost in 2018 after the crypto mining crash Getting familiar with TPU and other research for his “Nvidia: A Data center AI Bear Thesis” Talking to people at Google about them using Nvidia’s GPU Google making TPUs available and competing with Amazon Web Services (AWS) AI as Google’s biggest advantage and why their price is not coming down Speculating over why Google isn’t giving away their TPU training chips The approaching competition for TPU and its impact on Nvidia’s data center business The large number of startups that are raising capital for deep and machine learning A theory that training is starting to get saturated at the kernel level capacity Nvidia’s prices for their data center boards and why Akram believes they were over earning Why Nvidia still appears to be well-positioned in the market   Tweetables: “Nvidia last year, lost more in market value than any semiconductor company since Intel crashed in 2000.” — @akramsrazor [0:03:21]

 Nvidia and the Crypto Implosion of 2018 with Akram’s Razor (Part 1) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:41:07

On the show today we are joined by Seeking Alpha contributor, Akram’s Razor, to bring to you a Nvidia podcast in two parts, focused on the company, semiconductors, and beyond. Akram has published numerous articles on semiconductors, software, and macro. He notably forecasted the global crypto crash of 2018 and its impact on Nvidia, an opinion that went starkly against the grain of most analysts in his field. In this first of a two part episode, we on Akram’s thesis on Nvidia, the crash, and the players in the drama that unfolded over the subsequent months. In next week’s follow up conversation, Akram unpacks his thoughts on Nvidia’s datacenter business and looks at the growth of the competitive landscape for AI accelerators. Be sure to join us for this episode and check back for part two as well! Key Points from This Episode: Akram’s entry-point into Nvidia and what sparked his interest in the market The last couple years and Nvidia’s upsurge into the AI and crypto markets AMD’s hash supply and the amount needed for the Ethereum blockchain Apple’s role in financing this roadmap development with AMD and Nvidia The hash rate peak of May 2018 and its implications Comparing functionality, business models, and pricing in the gaming market Premium products and Nvidia’s actual biggest competitors in the industry The shortage of in demand cards and the effects on pricing   Tweetables: The GPU market went from boom to bust over the past 12 months. How did it happen? Listen to this Nvidia Podcast with independent analyst who foresaw it all—Akram’s Razor.

 The Capital Market Space within FinTech | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:34:30

This week on For Your Innovation, we are talking to Morgan Dunbar, partner at Bendigo Partners, a firm that specializes in the global financial technology industry as both a principal investor and operational advisor. In addition to that, Morgan is managing partner at AIR Summit, a network and conference targeted at the capital market industry and, in particular, capital market startups. In the podcast, we are going to discuss the capital market space within FinTech, an area that is often overlooked amongst the hype you see around consumer FinTech startups and large venture rounds. Key Points from This Episode: More about Bendigo Partners and their two main concerns of investing and advising What the term “alpha tech” refers to and how it differentiates them from the rest of FinTech AIR Summit’s focus on capital markets, and specifically front office The growing media coverage on consumer FinTech rather than B2B capital markets How personal investing and the capital market are related The positive response from the industry to capital market startups Why companies are occupied with big data and how AI is being used to solve problems The competition for talent and why it is important to create the right culture Time as one of the biggest challenges for emerging technology companies General problems that the buy and sell side of the industry experience   Tweetables: “Even within capital markets, we’re really focused on just the front office, so our sweet spot is actively managed funds, [mutual] fund complexes, and we’re really focused on bringing forward ideas, technology, data sets that can help those firms add alpha to their process.” — Morgan Dunbar [0:05:57] “So it is one thing to try to recruit and retain those people and just pay them. It is another thing to create a place where they actually feel like they’re solving problems and have support and can work in a methodological approach, a philosophical approach to the way they like to solve problems.” — Morgan Dunbar [0:25:26]

 Innovative Insights into Semiconductors, with Dylan | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:40:13

On today’s episode, we are joined by our first ever anonymous guest, who goes by the name of Dylan. James came across him on Twitter and was inspired by his fresh and innovative insights on semiconductors. Dylan works in data science for a large company, but is interested in semiconductors and AI as a personal side project. Having been one of the most stagnant sectors, the semiconductor landscape has dramatically shifted and is now one of the most dynamic and vibrant sectors today. This appears clear as indicated by the meteoric rise of AI chip startups as well as autonomous car developments. Dylan, as an independent analyst, shares some of his background, what spurred his interest, and how his views are different from other analysts. He talks about the state of the chip market, such as current innovations, what the role of trade tensions are, mobile slowdowns and market saturation, to name a few. Then together with ARK analyst Tasha Keeney, he provides an overview of what is unfolding in the self-driving car space in relation to semiconductors, discussing topics such as what current competition there is in the market, anticipated levels of autonomy and whether claims around full autonomy could ever be realized. For this and many more semiconductor insights, join us today!   Key Points From This Episode: The reasons that independent analysts may be often better than traditional analysts. Which exciting things investors should be focused on. The projected power dynamics in the semiconductor sector. Why NVIDIA should be able to stay competitive. What the current market leaders’ prospects in the self-driving car sector will be. Some of the shortcomings with current chips in autonomous car development. Why claims of complete autonomy may never be realized. Some of the key differences among the competitors in the autonomous car market.   Tweetables: “The training market is beginning to get saturated.” — @dylan522p [0:12:27] “The reason why I thought trucks would become autonomous first was that there is more money involved.” —  @dylan522p [0:32:40]

 A Closer Look at Facebook’s Libra and Calibra | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:29:02

Joining us on this episode are ARK analysts Yassine Elmandjra and Max Friedrich. Today we talk about the headlines that Facebook has made in recent months, particularly in relation to their plan to launch their own cryptocurrency in 2020. We discuss what Libra is and how it will be governed, what the role of the Libra Association will be and how it will be different to other cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. It seems as though Bitcoin managed to establish itself before any regulatory measures could intervene, but will Libra be given the same opportunity? Yassine and Max share the governmental responses there have been to Libra and how different markets are likely to react. They share their ideas around why Facebook might have introduced this new dimension in their company and about the function of Calibra as a digital wallet. For all of this and more, be sure to join us! Key Points From This Episode: More about Facebook’s cryptocurrency: what it is, founding members and how it’s governed What the Libra Association will be responsible for and what its mission entails The areas in which we believe bitcoin succeeded and failed to succeed in Where Libra fits into the other blockchains and coins available on the market The two primary record keeping models: unspent transaction output and account based How, after failing to act against Bitcoin, the regulatory environment is responding to Libra Weighing up the success of payment platforms initiated by Facebook and WeChat Why governments in emerging markets likely don’t want Libra The relationship between Libra and Calibra and the possibility of competing wallets Predictions for the rollout of Facebook’s cryptocurrency   Tweetables: “They basically found someone to point a finger to and that’s Facebook. With Bitcoin, it’s like, who do you point the finger to?” —@yassineARK [0:14:17] “They are not trying to gain control of this new money that they are creating. What they are trying to do is to be the primary interface to this new pile of money through their Calibra wallet.” — @jwangARK [0:22:46]

 Reimagining the Future of Smart Speakers | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:23:50

On this week’s episode of For Your Innovation, we’re talking to ARK analyst Nick Grous about the booming market for smart speakers. In just over four years, devices like Amazon Echo and Google Assistant have gone from niche toys to a mainstream device that’s found in many people’s homes across the world. We have a conversation about why they’ve become popular, the reason why they’re selling at such a low price and how its adoption into the market compares to the smart phone. We also talk about the Amazon Echo and Alexa and why they have not managed to develop a greater variety of apps compared to Apple’s App Store and what developers can do to improve traction. We get into the practical problems that are still being resolved with voice interfaces and its potential for revitalizing the market through interactive music, shopping and connecting home devices.            Key Points From This Episode: The high rate of smart speakers’ early phase adoption and the predictions for the next year. Why smart speakers are currently selling at such low prices. How their growing array of functions will keep increasing their popularity. Imagining the different ways in which smart speakers can offer more. Why Amazon Echo (Alexa) still has such a small number of apps despite being inexpensive. Gaming as an important factor in Apple’s App Store success. The differences between a mobile phone application and voice interface. The high error rate with voice commands as a significant reason for slow adoption. Revitalizing the market through interactive music, convenient shopping and connectivity. The fundamental issues with smart speaker technology that needs to be resolved. Natural language processing of voice assistants as an area that still needs attention. The voice problem in commerce and how it could be overcome.   Tweetables: “To be able to have their voice assistant in the center of your home, answering questions, controlling devices, that’s invaluable to a company like Amazon or Google.” — @GrousARK [0:03:37] “If you look at three avenues, I think this is what’s going to revitalize the market: music, shopping, and connectivity.” — @GrousARK [0:17:05]

 The Future of AI Hardware with James Wang | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:25:58

On today’s episode we welcome back our very own James Wang to talk about the future of AI hardware and his recent talk at the CogX event. With a definite move back towards fabrication and production of chips in Silicon Valley, the future of technology in both America and abroad is in just as much transition as ever. James informs us on what the industry and related fields look like right now, how this will all translate into the marketplace and the effect that it will have on companies and customers. We discuss the last year in chip fabrication and think about the years ahead; what vertical and horizontal integration can we expect? We talk about how the field is placed geographically and China’s commitment to industry and market leadership by 2025. We also get into the implications for the autonomous driving market as takes shape. Key Points From This Episode: Comparing this year’s CogX event to the one last year The current startup costs and landscape for chip fabrication Competition, opportunity, training and inference in the field of ai hardware How to think about the market size and the pricing implications AI training as a continuous process as data sets grow over time How it translates in the autonomous driving market Breaking down the geographic placement of the startups in question Horizontal and vertical players in the field and how this differs to the PC era The three main conclusions; the rise of China, vertical integration and optical computing Looking forward to the possibility of quantum computing   Tweetables: “What is really interesting is that semiconductors are the new black again. Venture capitalist have once again poured money back into chip companies.” — @jwangARK [0:02:07] “For companies that are truly operating on this kind of scale, training is a continuous process because they’re trying to improve the accuracy of the networks.” —  @jwangARK [0:08:20]

 A New Way for Investors to Be Heard, with Zach Hascoe from Say | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:28:27

On the show today we are joined by Zach Hascoe, co-founder of Say, a company dedicated to giving a voice to all shareholders. Say is an innovative investor communications platform that appears to be transforming the way that companies and shareholders communicate and interact. They are doing this through a verification and democratization process, in which investors of any size are able to question and engage the companies where they own shares. Zach believes this gap in the market is an essential one to fill and has already seen great results on the platform. In our conversation we cover the required background and impetus behind Say’s emergence, the problems that the platform addresses directly and how the company is going about approaching potential clients. Zach explains how he and the team are positioning Say at the moment and the way in which he imagines their position growing. He explains their verification procedure and much more so make sure to listen in with us!                 Key Points From This Episode: Some background on Say, what it is and what they do. Say’s view as to the biggest problem facing retail investors in today’s climate. Why it is important to engage with companies with whom you own shares. Say’s value proposition to new clients when pitching their service. Timelines for asking questions on the platform. The markets that Say is aiming at currently and in the future. The relationship between Say and ARK Invest. Verifying shareholders at a company with the help of Say’s platform. Say’s internal values, tech stack and how they organize their engineering. The rise of transparency and the democratization of the financial sphere. Zach Hascoe shares his hopes and ideas for Say moving into the future.   Tweetables: “We knew that there was a better way, we knew that people would care about these rights and we’re really excited to power a much deeper experience for investors.” — @zhascoe [0:02:49] “Being a verified owner and thinking like an owner is really what we’re hoping to impart on people and through that, people will realize that their voice does matter.” — @zhascoe [0:04:17] “That’s what we’re hoping to create on the platform. An ability for thoughtful ideas to rise to the top and for companies to be able to see what the most engaged investors care most about.” — @zhascoe [0:05:57]

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